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Post by atison on Jan 3, 2019 8:29:53 GMT -5
PSA, if you want to enjoy your smoke, put down the IPA's.
I kind of new what would result when I stepped outside on my parents deck over the holidays to enjoy a bowl of Plum Pudding and happened to grab an IPA from the fridge. I knew the results from making the same decision with a good cigar. IPA's absolutely kill any flavor from a decent tobacco. It is amazing. They don't make the smoke taste bad in any way but they somehow strip away everything that is good in a blend. Didn't think it was possible to mute out plum pudding and all its goodness but that IPA rendered it down right boring. I thought I was having one of those "off" smokes but I put the can down for about 15 minutes of the smoke and the flavors slowly came back. Another sip of the IPA and by by flavors.
From now on I will stick to soda, coffee or dark liquors and save the IPA's for when I am not smoking.
Just wanted to get that out there so no one else makes the same mistake on a quality bowl of baccy.
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Post by Quintsrevenge on Jan 3, 2019 9:06:48 GMT -5
I concur , I don’t like IPA”s with any tobacco. I actually don’t like drinking with food either.
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Post by Dramatwist on Jan 3, 2019 9:10:03 GMT -5
PSA, if you want to enjoy your smoke, put down the IPA's. I kind of new what would result when I stepped outside on my parents deck over the holidays to enjoy a bowl of Plum Pudding and happened to grab an IPA from the fridge. I knew the results from making the same decision with a good cigar. IPA's absolutely kill any flavor from a decent tobacco. It is amazing. They don't make the smoke taste bad in any way but they somehow strip away everything that is good in a blend. Didn't think it was possible to mute out plum pudding and all its goodness but that IPA rendered it down right boring. I thought I was having one of those "off" smokes but I put the can down for about 15 minutes of the smoke and the flavors slowly came back. Another sip of the IPA and by by flavors. From now on I will stick to soda, coffee or dark liquors and save the IPA's for when I am not smoking. Just wanted to get that out there so no one else makes the same mistake on a quality bowl of baccy. I agree. One word: Guinness. |
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Post by briarbuck on Jan 3, 2019 9:39:48 GMT -5
I must disagree. A dank IPA is the perfect match for some natural Va flakes. Golden slices or FVF pairs well.  |
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Post by Darin on Jan 3, 2019 10:47:40 GMT -5
I must disagree. A dank IPA is the perfect match for some natural Va flakes. Golden slices or FVF pairs well. +1 ... Reiner Long Golden Flake came to mind. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Jan 3, 2019 10:52:17 GMT -5
I must disagree. A dank IPA is the perfect match for some natural Va flakes. Golden slices or FVF pairs well. +1 ... Reiner Long Golden Flake came to mind. ...to each their own... talk to three members here, and you get four different opinions... it's all good... |
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Post by atison on Jan 3, 2019 10:54:13 GMT -5
Hmmm, I will try some FVF with an IPA to see if my mind will change.
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Post by briarbuck on Jan 3, 2019 11:04:57 GMT -5
Hmmm, I will try some FVF with an IPA to see if my mind will change. 50 West, "Punch you in the IPA". You'll thank me later. |
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Post by Darin on Jan 3, 2019 11:08:16 GMT -5
+1 ... Reiner Long Golden Flake came to mind. ...to each their own... talk to three members here, and you get four different opinions... it's all good... I'll take that Guinness you recommended with a strong blend like G&H Birdseye or some Brown Bogie.  |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 3, 2019 11:12:39 GMT -5
As many know, I like a pint of milk with my tobacco - it smoothes it down...Guinness might do the same, now you mention it, Dramatwist. Off to the shops... |
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Post by slowroll on Jan 3, 2019 15:43:50 GMT -5
Yep, Guinness, wine or coffeeis the thing for most blends.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 3, 2019 17:20:37 GMT -5
I don’t like IPA’s under any circumstances.  I thought I didn’t like Guinness either, until I had it on tap at the pipe club meeting place... not sure if it was the passing of time, or the difference in delivery. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 3, 2019 17:33:18 GMT -5
I don’t like IPA’s under any circumstances. I thought I didn’t like Guinness either, until I had it on tap at the pipe club meeting place... not sure if it was the passing of time, or the difference in delivery. Guinness is only good on tap!! It's also best in Ireland. You should come over and see for yourself. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 3, 2019 17:39:47 GMT -5
I don’t like IPA’s under any circumstances. I thought I didn’t like Guinness either, until I had it on tap at the pipe club meeting place... not sure if it was the passing of time, or the difference in delivery. Guinness is only good on tap!! It's also best in Ireland. You should come over and see for yourself. I am sitting here at Mesa Gateway airport watching the private jets... maybe I should fire mine up and head over! I asked the wife a few years ago where she would like to travel internationally... when she said Ireland, I about jumped up and clicked my heels, as my answer would have been the same if asked. It will happen at some point |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 3, 2019 17:47:09 GMT -5
I agree. I like lager with Lat heavies, as it almost cleanses the pallat between puffs.
I also love a rich stout with VAs. The sweet tobacco cuts through the the bitter, malty aspects and works together well.
Burley works with anything. Haha
Just my pallat of course.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 3, 2019 17:48:21 GMT -5
PSA, if you want to enjoy your smoke, put down the IPA's. I kind of new what would result when I stepped outside on my parents deck over the holidays to enjoy a bowl of Plum Pudding and happened to grab an IPA from the fridge. I knew the results from making the same decision with a good cigar. IPA's absolutely kill any flavor from a decent tobacco. It is amazing. They don't make the smoke taste bad in any way but they somehow strip away everything that is good in a blend. Didn't think it was possible to mute out plum pudding and all its goodness but that IPA rendered it down right boring. I thought I was having one of those "off" smokes but I put the can down for about 15 minutes of the smoke and the flavors slowly came back. Another sip of the IPA and by by flavors. From now on I will stick to soda, coffee or dark liquors and save the IPA's for when I am not smoking. Just wanted to get that out there so no one else makes the same mistake on a quality bowl of baccy. I agree. One word: Guinness. I'll second that. Love smoking bright, sweet VAs with Guinness in particular. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 3, 2019 17:50:01 GMT -5
I had my first and last Guinness at a pub in Kenmare. I can't imagine how it could taste worse. It tastes like it was brewed from beef stew and oatmeal.
IPAs weren't invented to taste good. They were supposed to survive trip between England and India better than the regular beer. People didn't like the taste in the days of sail and most without man buns still don't. God I feel old today. ☢️☎️🎥🛁⚱️🗿
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 3, 2019 17:50:40 GMT -5
I'm actually letting my beard down tonight as it were. Haha Just drinking cheap adjunct lager (Coors Banquet) and smoking Peretti Thanksgiving. Having company, so it'll probably be an aro-heavy evening for their sake.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 3, 2019 17:58:23 GMT -5
I had my first and last Guinness at a pub in Kenmare. I can't imagine how it could taste worse. It tastes like it was brewed from beef stew and oatmeal. IPAs weren't invented to taste good. They were supposed to survive trip between England and India better than the regular beer. People didn't like the taste in the days of sail and most without man buns still don't. God I feel old today. ☢️☎️🎥🛁⚱️🗿 You're right about the origins, but the reason domestic IPAs happened was because the Brits stationed abroad drinking them grew to love them. I'm old enough to rememeber when the only thing on the shelf was American adjunct lager and if you wanted to get fancy, Moosehead or maybe a good German import was what ya got. I'm also young enough to be open to the beer explosion that hit back in the late 2000s. If I'm honest, it was a chore at first. Forcing microbrews past my stubborn pallat, but eventually I aquired the taste for stouts and IPAs. So far as the man buns... Can't let idiots spoil your experience. Haha I've been drinking PBR since the 8th grade because it was cheap. Still the favourite swill of my friends and I. But when I go to a hipster bar, they see my beard, tatts, and flat cap and say in a patronizing tone 'let me guess, you'll have a Pabst?' hahaha I then explain the hat is hiding a bald spot, the beard hides a double chin, and I'm poor. So yeah. Pabst. |
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Post by slowroll on Jan 3, 2019 18:24:37 GMT -5
I had my first and last Guinness at a pub in Kenmare. I can't imagine how it could taste worse. It tastes like it was brewed from beef stew and oatmeal. IPAs weren't invented to taste good. They were supposed to survive trip between England and India better than the regular beer. People didn't like the taste in the days of sail and most without man buns still don't. God I feel old today. ☢️☎️🎥🛁⚱️🗿 You're right about the origins, but the reason domestic IPAs happened was because the Brits stationed abroad drinking them grew to love them. I'm old enough to rememeber when the only thing on the shelf was American adjunct lager and if you wanted to get fancy, Moosehead or maybe a good German import was what ya got. I'm also young enough to be open to the beer explosion that hit back in the late 2000s. If I'm honest, it was a chore at first. Forcing microbrews past my stubborn pallat, but eventually I aquired the taste for stouts and IPAs. So far as the man buns... Can't let idiots spoil your experience. Haha I've been drinking PBR since the 8th grade because it was cheap. Still the favourite swill of my friends and I. But when I go to a hipster bar, they see my beard, tatts, and flat cap and say in a patronizing tone 'let me guess, you'll have a Pabst?' hahaha I then explain the hat is hiding a bald spot, the beard hides a double chin, and I'm poor. So yeah. Pabst. Being from PA, ya ougta drink Yuengling. It's the only pale beer I like, it has taste. If I drink beer, it's Guinness or Yuengling. Usually wine though, with dinner. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 3, 2019 18:32:50 GMT -5
You're right about the origins, but the reason domestic IPAs happened was because the Brits stationed abroad drinking them grew to love them. I'm old enough to rememeber when the only thing on the shelf was American adjunct lager and if you wanted to get fancy, Moosehead or maybe a good German import was what ya got. I'm also young enough to be open to the beer explosion that hit back in the late 2000s. If I'm honest, it was a chore at first. Forcing microbrews past my stubborn pallat, but eventually I aquired the taste for stouts and IPAs. So far as the man buns... Can't let idiots spoil your experience. Haha I've been drinking PBR since the 8th grade because it was cheap. Still the favourite swill of my friends and I. But when I go to a hipster bar, they see my beard, tatts, and flat cap and say in a patronizing tone 'let me guess, you'll have a Pabst?' hahaha I then explain the hat is hiding a bald spot, the beard hides a double chin, and I'm poor. So yeah. Pabst. Being from PA, ya ougta drink Yuengling. It's the only pale beer I like, it has taste. If I drink beer, it's Guinness or Yuengling. Usually wine though, with dinner. Yuengling is a staple when PBR isn't on the menu. I love wine, but the metalhead bars I frequent have horrible choices. In fact you're lucky if you have a choice between red or white. |
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Post by slowroll on Jan 3, 2019 18:35:30 GMT -5
Well, that's what ya get for frequenting metal head bars!
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 3, 2019 18:36:37 GMT -5
I had my first and last Guinness at a pub in Kenmare. I can't imagine how it could taste worse. It tastes like it was brewed from beef stew and oatmeal. IPAs weren't invented to taste good. They were supposed to survive trip between England and India better than the regular beer. People didn't like the taste in the days of sail and most without man buns still don't. God I feel old today. ☢️☎️🎥🛁⚱️🗿 I thought the same with my first Guinness... Trust me, after a few you'll be hooked. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 3, 2019 18:40:03 GMT -5
I had my first and last Guinness at a pub in Kenmare. I can't imagine how it could taste worse. It tastes like it was brewed from beef stew and oatmeal. IPAs weren't invented to taste good. They were supposed to survive trip between England and India better than the regular beer. People didn't like the taste in the days of sail and most without man buns still don't. God I feel old today. ☢️☎️🎥🛁⚱️🗿 I thought the same with my first Guinness... Trust me, after a few you'll be hooked. I could just keep drinking the same one over and over. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 3, 2019 18:50:25 GMT -5
Well, that's what ya get for frequenting metal head bars! Good jukebox and great people. Plus you can smoke. Hahaha |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 3, 2019 18:53:36 GMT -5
I thought the same with my first Guinness... Trust me, after a few you'll be hooked. I could just keep drinking the same one over and over. I was with you until a year ago. My taste just changed and I started craving the stuff. Just like beets or horseradish- I hit an age where my tongue just wanted things I used to hate. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 3, 2019 19:09:12 GMT -5
I could just keep drinking the same one over and over. I was with you until a year ago. My taste just changed and I started craving the stuff. Just like beets or horseradish- I hit an age where my tongue just wanted things I used to hate. Maybe I will try another one in a couple of years when I turn 70. That will be 36 years since my last one. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 3, 2019 19:15:01 GMT -5
I was with you until a year ago. My taste just changed and I started craving the stuff. Just like beets or horseradish- I hit an age where my tongue just wanted things I used to hate. Maybe I will try another one in a couple of years when I turn 70. That will be 36 years since my last one. 35 years is a more rounded number. Maybe next year you'll be living in Ireland and it will be your staple. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 3, 2019 20:22:52 GMT -5
At this point, Im gonna concede the point. Haha I think you know what ya like by now.
Cheers
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 3, 2019 23:05:16 GMT -5
Hmmmm. Russian River Brewery makes a big variety of IPAs. I'll just have to try every one with a bowl of English, followed by every one with a bowl of Virginia. If there are any significant results before I pass out I will let you all know.
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