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Post by orley on Jan 3, 2019 17:46:32 GMT -5
I bought a lot of 4 pipes, which I don't do very often. This one stumps me. I have never heard about Vottis pipes, just that they were made by Pat M. Vottis from New York state between the 1940s and 1970s. An early carver using Danish styles for some of his pipes. That's about it. First let me say that this is an odd looking pipe in my opinion. It's not terrible, but just kinda off. The construction is bewildering as it seems to be made from two pieces of briar pieced together in a strange way. It appears that the front bottom part of the bowl was glued? on with some fairly decent matching of the grain. At first I thought it was a scratch or crack, but no, it forms a sort of circle around the bottom of the bowl. Seems like a lot of work, but the finish work suffers some. Lots of sanding scratches! Then there's the chamber position. I can see why it was made like this as you didn't want to have the added piece being part of the chamber, but it adds to the oddness of the look of the pipe. Lastly, there's the handle? a loop between the bowl and the shank. I'm not sure it serves any purpose, but it's not even stained inside. I'm not bashing the creator of this pipe, I just find it to be one of the oddest pipes I've seen. Check out the pics and tell me what you think.       |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 3, 2019 18:21:54 GMT -5
That is a really strange pipe. Maybe it was their very first effort? 😁
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Post by scrooge on Jan 3, 2019 18:26:11 GMT -5
I like it!! A lot.
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Post by kbareit on Jan 3, 2019 18:27:04 GMT -5
I might be wrong but I think it's supposed to look like a handgun.
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Post by slowroll on Jan 3, 2019 18:27:33 GMT -5
It is odd. And that back chamber wall is pretty thin.
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Post by Mac on Jan 3, 2019 18:35:36 GMT -5
A mystery wrapped in an enigma, enclosed........ Well, I agree, it has 3-4 major oddities! The bottom of the bowl- can you see the joining in the chamber?
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 3, 2019 18:42:28 GMT -5
It is odd. And that back chamber wall is pretty thin. That would make me think this pipe was not very well thought out. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 3, 2019 18:42:29 GMT -5
Drunk pipe design 101.
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Post by puffy on Jan 3, 2019 18:44:17 GMT -5
I'm not sure what to say..Strange..I guess is the word.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 3, 2019 18:46:30 GMT -5
I might be wrong but I think it's supposed to look like a handgun. now you mention it, that makes prefect sense. Doesn't explain the bowl position though. |
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Post by william on Jan 3, 2019 19:14:50 GMT -5
I might be wrong but I think it's supposed to look like a handgun. now you mention it, that makes prefect sense. Doesn't explain the bowl position though. Stand on your head and look at it, Paddy. (Or turn the image upside down if you have computer skills.) The bowl would be the grip.... I know I am old school, but a gun should look like a gun, and a pipe should look like a pipe. It is interesting, though.......  |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 3, 2019 19:16:11 GMT -5
now you mention it, that makes prefect sense. Doesn't explain the bowl position though. Stand on your head and look at it, Paddy. (Or turn the image upside down if you have computer skills.) The bowl would be the grip.... I know I am old school, but a gun should look like a gun, and a pipe should look like a pipe. It is interesting, though....... I saw it after it was mentioned earlier. When I referred to the bowl position, I meant the drilling. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 3, 2019 19:24:21 GMT -5
Looks like a C 96 without the mag well.
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Post by william on Jan 3, 2019 19:29:17 GMT -5
Stand on your head and look at it, Paddy. (Or turn the image upside down if you have computer skills.) The bowl would be the grip.... I know I am old school, but a gun should look like a gun, and a pipe should look like a pipe. It is interesting, though....... I saw it after it was mentioned earlier. When I referred to the bowl position, I meant the drilling. Mea culpa. |
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Post by username on Jan 3, 2019 20:07:42 GMT -5
It kinda looks like a knuckle duster to me with that hole there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 20:16:04 GMT -5
It’s a bit odd, most likely some “ new artisan pipe “ with an odd piece of decent briar he did not want to waste any!?!?!? My concern would be the rear chamber wall being to thin.
Definitely not my “ cup of tea “!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 20:19:32 GMT -5
I might be wrong but I think it's supposed to look like a handgun. I think you’ve got something there, and some lover of “ odd “ pipes pulled “ the trigger “. |
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Post by monbla256 on Jan 3, 2019 20:50:37 GMT -5
Whats that cut line that goes oblicqly around the lower part of the bowl? Other than that it looks like all the rest of the "Artison" pipes I've seen, not a pipe looking at all ! 
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Post by kbareit on Jan 3, 2019 20:52:46 GMT -5
I might be wrong but I think it's supposed to look like a handgun. I think you’ve got something there, and some lover of “ odd “ pipes pulled “ the trigger “. As soon as I saw it the first thing that came to mind was that it was a pipe shaped like a gun. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 4, 2019 4:24:35 GMT -5
I saw it after it was mentioned earlier. When I referred to the bowl position, I meant the drilling. Mea culpa. Not at all, brother. I wasn't terribly clear in the previous post. If the tone of the above (quoted) message sounded harsh, it wasn't intended to be. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jan 4, 2019 13:34:28 GMT -5
Could be you have to smoke it with your pinky out...
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