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Post by bigwoolie on Jan 8, 2019 11:07:48 GMT -5
Not going to go into the whole story, but found out this week that the outfitter in Wyoming that I was going to work for this summer doesn't seem to be on the up-and-up. So I've walked away. I don't need the trouble.
My wife and I, as I've said before, live in an old rv and I work seasonal with horses. I have no rent or mortgage, no car payment, no credit card debt. Nothing. I can work pretty much non-stop for 90 days and make enough to live on the rest of the year if we want to. I get paid pretty good for what I do, because I've been doing it for a long time and I'm good at it. And it's a dying art.
I'm in Mexico at the moment, at a friends house. That's where I was when the whole WY thing fell apart. My wife and I are very seriously considering just moving down here. The 3-month job at the training stables in Florida every year is more than enough to support us the rest of the time.
The truth is, I don't recognize my own country any more, as much as I love it. I feel like I've somehow become the enemy. As a white, heterosexual, Christian male with Bibles and guns, I am considered a terrorist by the very country my family has helped settle, build and fight for since the mid-1600's.
Im not starting a diatribe on politics, but am I the only one on here feeling this way? Are there others who've entertained some of the same thoughts?
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 8, 2019 11:14:21 GMT -5
I wish you every success if you make the move.
It must be great to be able to work 3 months of the year and live on the rest.
As for how you're feeling... I wouldn't get too much into the religious or political aspects of that discussion here.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 8, 2019 11:34:34 GMT -5
 I’m with you Brother!
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Post by bigwoolie on Jan 8, 2019 11:34:50 GMT -5
I wish you every success if you make the move. It must be great to be able to work 3 months of the year and live on the rest. As for how you're feeling... I wouldn't get too much into the religious or political aspects of that discussion here. I agree completely. I'll not go into it any further, and I apologize for any line I might have stepped over. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 8, 2019 11:39:44 GMT -5
I wish you every success if you make the move. It must be great to be able to work 3 months of the year and live on the rest. As for how you're feeling... I wouldn't get too much into the religious or political aspects of that discussion here. I agree completely. I'll not go into it any further, and I apologize for any line I might have stepped over. You haven't stepped over any line, buddy. You've stated facts about yourself and your feelings. Just trying to keep this thread from being locked in the near future.  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 8, 2019 11:39:55 GMT -5
I hear you. But I can always move to another part of Texas. And the political thing is a pendulum. It will swing the other way before too long.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 11:46:45 GMT -5
I wish both you and your wife all the best with life’s endeavors, some days, weeks and even months will be better than others.
GOOD LUCK!!!
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Post by peterd-Buffalo Spirit on Jan 8, 2019 11:57:25 GMT -5
...I agree with you...yes, shifts will come and go, but bottom line...the changes I see and feel are sad reflection in the decline of the "human event"...
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Post by toshtego on Jan 8, 2019 12:25:07 GMT -5
I have a cousin and an aunt who moved to Mexico many years ago. They love it. They are wealthy people who can afford the complications which are involved living there.
Sorry to read how you feel about your own country. I am all the things you described and live in a community where English is mostly the second language. There are times when I, too, feel out of place but figure our country is big enough for everyone. Having lived outside the USA on various occassions over the years, I was always grateful to return home to the USA. You might feel that way after an extended stay in Old Mexico. Or, you may be happy as an expatriate. There are many north American ex-pats down there. I do not know where you are but you might visit some of the ex-patriate communities. The one I recall is south of Lake Chapala in the mountains above Guadalara. Certainly, the coastal beach towns are full of ex-pats.
Good luck to you!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 12:46:09 GMT -5
I have no rent or mortgage, no car payment, no credit card debt. Nothing. Sounds like you have things figured out to me. Most others are not so wise. I hope things work out. |
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Post by dervis on Jan 8, 2019 12:53:13 GMT -5
Sounds like a good decision, and one that you have obviously thought over. I understand your feelings exactly.
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Post by Butch Cassidy on Jan 8, 2019 12:56:56 GMT -5
Not going to go into the whole story, but found out this week that the outfitter in Wyoming that I was going to work for this summer doesn't seem to be on the up-and-up. So I've walked away. I don't need the trouble. My wife and I, as I've said before, live in an old rv and I work seasonal with horses. I have no rent or mortgage, no car payment, no credit card debt. Nothing. I can work pretty much non-stop for 90 days and make enough to live on the rest of the year if we want to. I get paid pretty good for what I do, because I've been doing it for a long time and I'm good at it. And it's a dying art. I'm in Mexico at the moment, at a friends house. That's where I was when the whole WY thing fell apart. My wife and I are very seriously considering just moving down here. The 3-month job at the training stables in Florida every year is more than enough to support us the rest of the time. The truth is, I don't recognize my own country any more, as much as I love it. I feel like I've somehow become the enemy. As a white, heterosexual, Christian male with Bibles and guns, I am considered a terrorist by the very country my family has helped settle, build and fight for since the mid-1600's. Im not starting a diatribe on politics, but am I the only one on here feeling this way? Are there others who've entertained some of the same thoughts? Very true and very sad....The US is crumbling from within....... |
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Post by bigwoolie on Jan 8, 2019 13:00:33 GMT -5
I have a cousin and an aunt who moved to Mexico many years ago. They love it. They are wealthy people who can afford the complications which are involved living there.
Sorry to read how you feel about your own country. I am all the things you described and live in a community where English is mostly the second language. There are times when I, too, feel out of place but figure our country is big enough for everyone. Having lived outside the USA on various occassions over the years, I was always grateful to return home to the USA. You might feel that way after an extended stay in Old Mexico. Or, you may be happy as an expatriate. There are many north American ex-pats down there. I do not know where you are but you might visit some of the ex-patriate communities. The one I recall is south of Lake Chapala in the mountains above Guadalara. Certainly, the coastal beach towns are full of ex-pats.
Good luck to you!
I am in the mountains north of Guadalajara now. The town I'm in has one, lone American expat. He the buddy I'm visiting, and he's married to a local girl. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 8, 2019 13:06:01 GMT -5
I have a cousin and an aunt who moved to Mexico many years ago. They love it. They are wealthy people who can afford the complications which are involved living there.
Sorry to read how you feel about your own country. I am all the things you described and live in a community where English is mostly the second language. There are times when I, too, feel out of place but figure our country is big enough for everyone. Having lived outside the USA on various occassions over the years, I was always grateful to return home to the USA. You might feel that way after an extended stay in Old Mexico. Or, you may be happy as an expatriate. There are many north American ex-pats down there. I do not know where you are but you might visit some of the ex-patriate communities. The one I recall is south of Lake Chapala in the mountains above Guadalara. Certainly, the coastal beach towns are full of ex-pats.
Good luck to you!
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 8, 2019 13:09:54 GMT -5
Rome took a thousand years to get to this point. Things move so quickly now. All sides of my family were here long before there was a United States, and I suppose we will be around for whatever comes after. I am too old to learn Mandarin.
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Post by robd on Jan 8, 2019 13:11:22 GMT -5
As a white, heterosexual, Jewish male without bible or guns, I do not consider you a terrorist. Just saying . . . .
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Jan 8, 2019 13:14:34 GMT -5
Not going to go into the whole story, but found out this week that the outfitter in Wyoming that I was going to work for this summer doesn't seem to be on the up-and-up. So I've walked away. I don't need the trouble. My wife and I, as I've said before, live in an old rv and I work seasonal with horses. I have no rent or mortgage, no car payment, no credit card debt. Nothing. I can work pretty much non-stop for 90 days and make enough to live on the rest of the year if we want to. I get paid pretty good for what I do, because I've been doing it for a long time and I'm good at it. And it's a dying art. I'm in Mexico at the moment, at a friends house. That's where I was when the whole WY thing fell apart. My wife and I are very seriously considering just moving down here. The 3-month job at the training stables in Florida every year is more than enough to support us the rest of the time. The truth is, I don't recognize my own country any more, as much as I love it. I feel like I've somehow become the enemy. As a white, heterosexual, Christian male with Bibles and guns, I am considered a terrorist by the very country my family has helped settle, build and fight for since the mid-1600's. Im not starting a diatribe on politics, but am I the only one on here feeling this way? Are there others who've entertained some of the same thoughts? I agree with you completely! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2019 13:19:26 GMT -5
We're a long way from falling apart folks. Serious debate is an essential element which we've previously survived and will again moving forward.
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Post by greeneyes on Jan 8, 2019 13:34:53 GMT -5
I tell you where I’d go. Zihuatanejo.
Zihuatanejo. It’s in Mexico. A little place on the Pacific Ocean. You know what the Mexicans say about the Pacific?
They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory. Open up a little hotel, right on the beach. Buy some worthless old boat and fix it up new. Take my guests out charter fishing.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 8, 2019 13:38:16 GMT -5
I have traveled, maybe not as much as other fellows on this forum, I have really seen one thing Americans do , is take care of our own, Raffles to help the sick, Citizens denoateing to help people who have lost their homes, possessions. You don’t see that much in other countries. As bad as I assume it is I will never lay my country down. American Forever!
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Post by toshtego on Jan 8, 2019 13:41:22 GMT -5
I have a cousin and an aunt who moved to Mexico many years ago. They love it. They are wealthy people who can afford the complications which are involved living there.
Sorry to read how you feel about your own country. I am all the things you described and live in a community where English is mostly the second language. There are times when I, too, feel out of place but figure our country is big enough for everyone. Having lived outside the USA on various occassions over the years, I was always grateful to return home to the USA. You might feel that way after an extended stay in Old Mexico. Or, you may be happy as an expatriate. There are many north American ex-pats down there. I do not know where you are but you might visit some of the ex-patriate communities. The one I recall is south of Lake Chapala in the mountains above Guadalara. Certainly, the coastal beach towns are full of ex-pats.
Good luck to you!
I am in the mountains north of Guadalajara now. The town I'm in has one, lone American expat. He the buddy I'm visiting, and he's married to a local girl. As I recall, the ex-pat community I was thinking of is called, "Ajijic" ("Ah-Hee-Hick"), just down the road from Lake Chapala. Maybe it is still there. Lucky devil, your pal. Mexican gals are pretty good, IMHO. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 8, 2019 13:46:41 GMT -5
I have traveled, maybe not as much as other fellows on this forum, I have really seen one thing Americans do , is take care of our own, Raffles to help the sick, Citizens denoateing to help people who have lost their homes, possessions. You don’t see that much in other countries. As bad as I assume it is I will never lay my country down. American Forever! Most heartily agree! What made me appreciate this country was the many times I traveled through the old Democratic Republic of Germany, the "DDR" or East Germany". While most everyone was very nice and polite, including the cops, it was a totalitarian regime. People complain about authority in this country, they have nothing, absolutely nothing, to complain about... yet. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 8, 2019 13:47:47 GMT -5
I tell you where I’d go. Zihuatanejo. Zihuatanejo. It’s in Mexico. A little place on the Pacific Ocean. You know what the Mexicans say about the Pacific? They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory. Open up a little hotel, right on the beach. Buy some worthless old boat and fix it up new. Take my guests out charter fishing. You sound like Humphrey Bogart in "Key Largo". |
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Post by puffy on Jan 8, 2019 13:49:59 GMT -5
Society changes with each generation.What seems as the way of life for youngsters seems strange to us old folks.My father once told me that the older I got the more I would feel that I didn't fit in.He was right.It's hard for us old folks to except but the world is oriented towards young folks..It's not just in this country.It's that way in other countries world over.Old folks are outsiders,but it's always been that way..We just see it more now in our..Golden Years
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Post by toshtego on Jan 8, 2019 13:59:29 GMT -5
Society changes with each generation.What seems as the way of life for youngsters seems strange to us old folks.My father once told me that the older I got the more I would feel that I didn't fit in.He was right.It's hard for us old folks to except but the world is oriented towards young folks..It's not just in this country.It's that way in other countries world over.Old folks are outsiders,but it's always been that way..We just see it more now in our..Golden Years Not so much in rural northern New Mexico which is one of the reasons I remain here despite the difficulties. The people here care about the old, mostly they are family oriented and it is common to see many generations living together on the same land in various houses grouped together. While I have no family here, I appreciate the patience and courtesy extended to this older man. It is different in the cities. |
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Post by morallynomadic on Jan 8, 2019 14:00:07 GMT -5
I'd say that if you like bibles, guns, and pipes, and you have them.. you're doing all right.👍🏿
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Post by dervis on Jan 8, 2019 14:01:53 GMT -5
Society changes with each generation.What seems as the way of life for youngsters seems strange to us old folks.My father once told me that the older I got the more I would feel that I didn't fit in.He was right.It's hard for us old folks to except but the world is oriented towards young folks..It's not just in this country.It's that way in other countries world over.Old folks are outsiders,but it's always been that way..We just see it more now in our..Golden Years At 33 years old I respectively disagree . I am annoyed by pretty much everyone younger than me , my age, and older than me. Ha Ha why I'm working on staying out of public as much as possible. Thought of moving as the original poster has been thinking about has crossed my mind for years.
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Post by greeneyes on Jan 8, 2019 14:07:18 GMT -5
I tell you where I’d go. Zihuatanejo. Zihuatanejo. It’s in Mexico. A little place on the Pacific Ocean. You know what the Mexicans say about the Pacific? They say it has no memory. That’s where I want to live the rest of my life. A warm place with no memory. Open up a little hotel, right on the beach. Buy some worthless old boat and fix it up new. Take my guests out charter fishing. You sound like Humphrey Bogart in "Key Largo". I've been told I sound like Tim Robbins when I say that. |
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Post by dervis on Jan 8, 2019 14:09:49 GMT -5
You sound like Humphrey Bogart in "Key Largo". I've been told I sound like Tim Robbins when I say that. Or maybe Randall Stevens |
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 8, 2019 14:51:36 GMT -5
Moving to Mexico or not, well, that's your decision. There are a lot of expats and retirees from the US down there, it's just cheaper to live there. But I'm an old guy, and I feel pretty strongly about the US. I served in the military as a young man, and I've worked all my life. Even at my advanced age I am still working (probably because I don't know better). I have seen a lot of change in this country and change is inevitable. But despite all the change and differences of opinion, we Americans share our laws and Constitution. For me, I take what I think is the good with the bad and continue to hold strong to the belief that our laws will survive and that all of us share that common foundation. Don't give up on the good ol' US of A. Even if you stay in Mexico, you're still an American.
I'm hoping this posting isn't political.
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I’m with you Brother!
