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Post by sperrytops on Jan 14, 2019 15:04:46 GMT -5
So, I am curious. I have used zippo lighters, jet torches, pipe lighters and matches. I have never been able to avoid scorching the rim of the bowl except with matches - the kitchen type. Even with a pipe lighter adjusted real low, there seems to still be a little spill over for scorching. Jet torch, of course, is asking for trouble. You should see the pipe I used that baby on. Anyway, just wondering what y'alls experience is. Has anyone been able to completely avoid scorching the rim of the pipe, and how the blazes do you do it?
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Post by monbla256 on Jan 14, 2019 15:21:51 GMT -5
A pipe without a scorched rim is not a pipe that's smoked much. After 50 years of smoking ALL my pipes have "scorched rims ! Works for me!
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Post by slowroll on Jan 14, 2019 15:22:37 GMT -5
Nope, and it doesn't bother me a bit. Pipes are little furnaces to burn tobacco in after all, and furnaces get a bit scorched.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 14, 2019 15:30:11 GMT -5
If you don’t fill it all the way up that helps a lot, excessive heat near the rim I believe is more of a problem than a carefully lit pipe. The Birdseye laden rims I have on a few pipes still look great, soot can build up, but it cleans up well because I follow that practice. When smoking cube cut, or not completely rubbed out Flake, load the bowl lower than you think necessary... especially with cube cut, once you start smoking, it expands....saves your shirt too. Never use a torch, the temperatures they generate are way too hot for Briar.
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Post by Dramatwist on Jan 14, 2019 15:39:02 GMT -5
...which is why I was such an adamant proponent of matches as opposed to lighters for so many years. I recently switched to an IM Corona Pipemaster lighter, and I'm still trying to get used to it... if I'm careful, it doesn't seem to scorch...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 15:55:38 GMT -5
After fifty plus years of enjoying a pipe not one of my pipes has a scorched rim. I fill the chamber no more then 3/4, one light, one tamp and a relight is usually all it takes. Every pipe smoker has their own preference.
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Post by instymp on Jan 14, 2019 18:13:06 GMT -5
^^^ What Ted said. On the ones I want keep nice. Others, I load em & smoke.
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Post by puffy on Jan 14, 2019 18:17:23 GMT -5
My pipes have scorched rims..It doesn't bother me.
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Post by slowroll on Jan 14, 2019 18:24:41 GMT -5
After fifty plus years of enjoying a pipe not one of my pipes has a scorched rim. I fill the chamber no more then 3/4, one light, one tamp and a relight is usually all it takes. Every pipe smoker has their own preference. Yeah, but Ted, you're OCD
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 18:50:33 GMT -5
After fifty plus years of enjoying a pipe not one of my pipes has a scorched rim. I fill the chamber no more then 3/4, one light, one tamp and a relight is usually all it takes. Every pipe smoker has their own preference. Yeah, but Ted, you're OCD Definitely not OCD. I’ve admitted numerous times in different threads....I’m anal retentive 👍
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Post by Mac on Jan 14, 2019 19:32:35 GMT -5
To get less soot buildup, hold the source of flame further away from the rim, and draw the flame down to just above the tobacco. The superheated air will ignite the tobacco and not the briar. Any source of flame can be use with care. Just adjust distance and time depending on the BTU content of the flame.
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Post by slowroll on Jan 14, 2019 19:44:42 GMT -5
Yeah, but Ted, you're OCD Definitely not OCD. I’ve admitted numerous times in different threads....I’m anal retentive 👍 Whoops, sorry. I have the wrong aberration
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 20:05:15 GMT -5
So, I am curious. I have used zippo lighters, jet torches, pipe lighters and matches. I have never been able to avoid scorching the rim of the bowl except with matches - the kitchen type. Even with a pipe lighter adjusted real low, there seems to still be a little spill over for scorching. Jet torch, of course, is asking for trouble. You should see the pipe I used that baby on. Anyway, just wondering what y'alls experience is. Has anyone been able to completely avoid scorching the rim of the pipe, and how the blazes do you do it? Only my first pipe has a slightly scorched rim. I apparently got the hang of it after that. My only advice is to use a pipe lighter, keep the flame low, and draw the flame down to the tobacco from above vs across the top of the tobacco from the side. My dad used to do the latter with a Bic and all of his pipes were well scorched.
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Post by jackdiamond on Jan 14, 2019 20:18:25 GMT -5
Nope, and it doesn't bother me a bit. Pipes are little furnaces to burn tobacco in after all, and furnaces get a bit scorched. This right here.
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Post by JimK on Jan 14, 2019 20:55:07 GMT -5
Has anyone been able to completely avoid scorching the rim of the pipe, and how the blazes do you do it? I gave up trying not to scorch the rim of my pipes about six months after I first started. And I've always used matches; wooden matches mostly, paper book matches when none other is available. All of my pipes are scorched about the rims to some degree, or another. I still try hard not to, but it happens. It just shows that that pipe is loved.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Jan 14, 2019 21:10:26 GMT -5
I don't think the lighter is what does it. I'm very careful with a lighter. And if the lighter were responsible, wouldn't I find charred wood? I am pretty sure the blackening I find on the rim is just accumulated tar. It's hard to prevent. It's a pain in the rear to remove, but with some effort, you'll find wood under there. The only things I've found to reduce blackening are: - Avoid wind caps.
(The more I smoke a given pipe outdoors, the blacker the rim gets -- uniformly, 360 degrees. It has *got* to be the wind cap.)
- Try not to fill the bowl too high.
Flame source doesn't seem to matter. Of course, I haven't been fool enough to attempt a torch light.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jan 14, 2019 21:20:53 GMT -5
I have found that most of my marks are just a build up of tar as well. I sat there one day watching the smoke coming from my bowl and sure enough, the black spots where were the smoke was "touching" it. With a whole lot of love, I can normally clean it back up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 21:28:03 GMT -5
I have found that most of my marks are just a build up of tar as well. I sat there one day watching the smoke coming from my bowl and sure enough, the black spots where were the smoke was "touching" it. With a whole lot of love, I can normally clean it back up. Yep, spit and a little elbow grease takes care of it for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2019 21:32:01 GMT -5
I have found that most of my marks are just a build up of tar as well. I sat there one day watching the smoke coming from my bowl and sure enough, the black spots where were the smoke was "touching" it. With a whole lot of love, I can normally clean it back up. Yep, spit and a little elbow grease takes care of it for me. Tar build up is normal, I deal with it when I clean my pipes. Enough tar build up makes it much more difficult to char or scorch the briar. Just don’t want my wood burnt!!! Like Randy, a bit of saliva along the way helps👍👍
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Post by peteguy on Jan 14, 2019 23:07:00 GMT -5
I have some that are scorched but these are in the garage and are called burners for a reason. My others I do the 3/4 trick and I am careful.
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Post by Dramatwist on Jan 14, 2019 23:58:29 GMT -5
...f***, they're just pipes, what the hell...
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Post by blackmouth210 on Jan 15, 2019 0:15:32 GMT -5
After fifty plus years of enjoying a pipe not one of my pipes has a scorched rim. I fill the chamber no more then 3/4 ^^this^^ I don't worry any more about the rim of my pipe getting scorched than I do about my work-boots getting dirty. But for those that like keeping the rim clean: Pipers with a lot more experience than I have swear that it's not what you use to light the pipe that harms the rims. It's filling the chamber all the way up that results in rim char/scorching.
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Post by slowroll on Jan 15, 2019 0:30:33 GMT -5
Yep, it's mostly filling the pipe and getting tar build up. I fill my pipes right up and get quite a cake build up on top. I know it's broken in then. Here's a well loved pipe. --Ted, don't look...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2019 5:23:31 GMT -5
I smoke the pipes I have don't really care what happens along the way.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jan 15, 2019 7:45:29 GMT -5
I have a few that are scorched, then I learned the secret. I saw an older man light his pipe and what he did was so simple, he would puff as he put the flame to the tobacco the lift the flame above the pipe when not puffing. Puff puff life rest puff puff lift rest
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Post by Chuckus on Jan 15, 2019 7:49:41 GMT -5
Get a bigger bowl.Fill it 3/4,use a kingsford softflame charcoal lighter.Clean after use.Buy more pipes.
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Post by haveldad on Jan 15, 2019 8:41:06 GMT -5
I just stopped filling my bowls up super packed. No more accidental charging, and tar build up on the rim is much slower. Practically non existent if I'm cleaning the rim each smoke.
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Post by exbenedict on Jan 15, 2019 14:41:08 GMT -5
Pipes are made to be smoked. Smoke + fire = potential for scorching. The more you smoke it, the more likely you are to scorch. Nothing wrong with the physics there....it just means you have used the pipe quite a lot for what it was intended.
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Post by bambooshank on Jan 15, 2019 15:12:06 GMT -5
I very much overfill my bowl and light the tobacco with all of my butane and Zippo lighters, the rim tends to get moisture laden tobacco on top rather than scorching the top, I then tamp down below the rim then relight, after 5 or so smokes I use a rag that I soak the end with strong black coffee and the top is left as clean as can be, even had it work on scorched estate pipes I’ve picked up generally leaving a slight trace of the scorching. The only pipes I don’t do this to are cobs, to me a cob with an unscorched rim feels like it’s not getting enough love. banjo
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Post by bambooshank on Jan 15, 2019 15:14:53 GMT -5
I bet my rag soaked in strong black coffee would clean that up w/o a trace of tar. banjo Yep, it's mostly filling the pipe and getting tar build up. I fill my pipes right up and get quite a cake build up on top. I know it's broken in then. Here's a well loved pipe. --Ted, don't look...
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