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Post by bigwoolie on Jan 23, 2019 9:06:08 GMT -5
I know next to nothing about cigars, but am looking at expanding into them a little bit. I just found out that down here in Mexico, Cuban cigars are not illegal and are available. There seems to be a shop, I am told, in a town no too far away. I'm heading back to the states in a couple of days to work until May, but am curious to check it out when I return in June. Cigars are way more available than pipe tobacco. I've seem no other pipes or tobacco. Only marijuana pipes.
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Post by briarbuck on Jan 23, 2019 9:36:34 GMT -5
Beware of fakes and go to a certified shop. Take the bands off when you travel. I put them in my wallet and then put them back on when I get back to the US. Never had an issue at customs.
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Post by McWiggins on Jan 23, 2019 10:18:39 GMT -5
Im no expert but I heard laws had changed. I was also told cuban cigars were hyped up because of the ban and arent anything more special than what was readily available. Again, I am no expert. I did find this though...... "Cuban cigars are now legal in the United States when it comes to traveling abroad and bringing them back into the country for personal use. However, if U.S. citizens attempt to sell Cuban cigars within the United States, they may be subject to fines and other penalties." www.thoughtco.com/cuban-cigars-are-cuban-cigars-legal-719511
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Post by puffy on Jan 23, 2019 10:20:19 GMT -5
Many years ago I met a fella who gave me 3 Cuban cigars.(The only ones I've smoked).They were very good.I expect that in the future they will be available here..No idea what the price range will be.
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Post by briarbuck on Jan 23, 2019 11:34:01 GMT -5
There is no other cigar that is like a good Cuban. Nicaraguan and Dominican stick are fine, but nothing tastes quite like a Cuban.
Get yourself a Partagas #2 (Robusto) or a Monte Cristo #2 (torpedo).
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Post by daveinlax on Jan 23, 2019 11:43:25 GMT -5
Just assume they're counterfeit unless you buy them from a la Casa del Habbano. The cigars I see in Nogales and Porto Penasco shops are sold out of wood boxes with the cut glass tops.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Jan 23, 2019 20:17:14 GMT -5
Half of them are counterfeit. The other half are real Cubans, but the average quality is so poor you'll curse them as counterfeit anyway
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 23, 2019 20:48:21 GMT -5
While the soil of Cuba used to outstanding...for growing cane and tobacco...whatwith the changed life there for many many years, I'm not too sure that the fields used are as good as they used to be...but then again, what is.
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Post by bigwoolie on Jan 24, 2019 15:48:41 GMT -5
My son-in-law flew out of here this morning, a day before I head out tomorrow. He texted me and said he found Cubans in the duty-free at the airport...$100.00 for 3 cigars!!!
This ol' cowboy ain't riding that trail. Way too rich for my blood.
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Post by stogiebear on Feb 26, 2019 8:33:18 GMT -5
My son-in-law flew out of here this morning, a day before I head out tomorrow. He texted me and said he found Cubans in the duty-free at the airport...$100.00 for 3 cigars!!! This ol' cowboy ain't riding that trail. Way too rich for my blood. Depends on the brand. Cuban Cohibas are extremely expensive. The normal Cubans (Monte, Upmann, RyJ etc.) can be found at the same prices as good Dominicans. Check out the prices on ihavanas dot com for example.
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Post by gav on Feb 26, 2019 8:53:29 GMT -5
Cuban cigars are priced similarly to other countries. Anywhere from $2- $150 for 1 cigar. I believe tobacco tax in Mexico is about 63% of it's price. Best to buy from a tax free zone but I'll pick a couple just to smoke there if I didn't bring any myself.
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Post by qmechanics on Feb 26, 2019 14:17:28 GMT -5
What??? Is there an invasion planned??? Are the Germans involved somehow??? Where is that wall!!!😁
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 19:35:06 GMT -5
So much seed has been smuggled out of Cuba to other areas is South America a good stick can be had for a ten spot.
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Post by stogiebear on Feb 26, 2019 21:39:16 GMT -5
What??? Is there an invasion planned??? Are the Germans involved somehow??? Where is that wall!!!😁 Time to pull out the vhs and watch Red Dawn again!
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Post by zambini on Feb 26, 2019 22:26:54 GMT -5
You should visit some of the better cigar stores where you can get all the cuban cigars you could possibly want. There is an Habanos store in Colonia Del Valle, El Cigarrito in the Roma Norte neighborhood, and Habanos 2000 in the Zona Rosa that I'd recommend. Habanos has all the super rare cigars for collectors whilst El Cigarrito has a huge selection and smarmy know-it-all staff. Habanos 2000 has a broad but not deep selection across most major cuban brands. I'd honestly suggest you try some Mexican cigars including the Te Amo Original. They're better than you think.
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Post by Mac on Feb 27, 2019 11:47:27 GMT -5
Ah, Mexico DF!! Will be there for a few days next month, and hoping there's a good pipe shop. Just to visit, as I am not looking/needing to buy tobacco or a pipe, though will happily do so if something looks tasty or beautiful.
I wrote a couple of shops a month ago, but no response. Any recommendations?
PS I no longer smoke sticks, so sorry to alter course on this thread. I am hoping zambini sees this and has some ideas.
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Post by bigwoolie on Feb 27, 2019 13:05:35 GMT -5
You should visit some of the better cigar stores where you can get all the cuban cigars you could possibly want. There is an Habanos store in Colonia Del Valle, El Cigarrito in the Roma Norte neighborhood, and Habanos 2000 in the Zona Rosa that I'd recommend. Habanos has all the super rare cigars for collectors whilst El Cigarrito has a huge selection and smarmy know-it-all staff. Habanos 2000 has a broad but not deep selection across most major cuban brands. I'd honestly suggest you try some Mexican cigars including the Te Amo Original. They're better than you think. The Te Amo I have heard of. I fly in and out of Guadalajara when I go, and I'm told there are some good shops to be found there. We will have to see.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Feb 27, 2019 14:35:09 GMT -5
I hate duty free shops in airports. Theyre often a horrible ripoff. But when I am in Austria/Germany, I always pick up Cubans at the airport. I know theyre real and while the price isn't great, it isn't horrible either. Cubans are just really, really potent cigars. Potent in nicotine, potent in taste. The aroma can be overwhelming for people who don't like the smell of burning tobacco. If you like a mild cigar, I am not sure that I have a recommendation for a good cuban. If you like cigars rich in flavour and robust in profile, I would definitely start with Cohiba. The mid-range machine made cigars are okay, but nothing like a Cohiba. Be prepared to be thrown out of houses / establishments when you try to light these things up, though.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 27, 2019 14:42:40 GMT -5
Good info, Zambini!
I have heard that pipe tobacco choices in Mexico are pretty poor regarding quality and price.
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Post by bigwoolie on Feb 27, 2019 15:49:08 GMT -5
Good info, Zambini! I have heard that pipe tobacco choices in Mexico are pretty poor regarding quality and price. Yeah, I couldn't find anything. I take all my own in.
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Post by gav on Feb 27, 2019 21:02:14 GMT -5
I've never seen pipe tobacco in any Caribbean or South American country but I've seen plenty of pipes for some reason.
They make a cuban cigar for all tastes. Some are very light in Nicotine and some are heavy. Some are full flavored and some are very light but they all have that specific taste.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 27, 2019 23:03:10 GMT -5
I have never had a Cuban cigar that I have been impressed with, but I cannot confirm the pedigree of what I have received.
I smoked a Drew Estate Liga privada #9 that was heavenly...far surpassed the Cuban's I have smoked.
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Post by Legend Lover on Feb 28, 2019 3:31:58 GMT -5
I've never seen pipe tobacco in any Caribbean or South American country but I've seen plenty of pipes for some reason. They make a cuban cigar for all tastes. Some are very light in Nicotine and some are heavy. Some are full flavored and some are very light but they all have that specific taste. I remember watching a clip of Goffre the Giant on YouTube. In it he said he was smoking a Brazilian tobacco.
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Post by qmechanics on Feb 28, 2019 15:16:36 GMT -5
I hate duty free shops in airports. Theyre often a horrible ripoff. But when I am in Austria/Germany, I always pick up Cubans at the airport. I know theyre real and while the price isn't great, it isn't horrible either. Cubans are just really, really potent cigars. Potent in nicotine, potent in taste. The aroma can be overwhelming for people who don't like the smell of burning tobacco. If you like a mild cigar, I am not sure that I have a recommendation for a good cuban. If you like cigars rich in flavour and robust in profile, I would definitely start with Cohiba. The mid-range machine made cigars are okay, but nothing like a Cohiba. Be prepared to be thrown out of houses / establishments when you try to light these things up, though. In my opinion Cuban sticks, with some exceptions, are typically medium bodied. If you try La Aroma de Cuba, Tatuaje, Joya de Nicaragua, La Flor Dominicana etc. and compare them to many Habanos, I believe you will notice the difference in strength. PS I have smoked a number of Cuban cigars from Partagas, Punch, Cohiba, Hoyo de Monterrey, Vegas Robiana, Romeo and Julieta, La Gloria Cubana, Montecristo etc. through the years from reputable cigar stores, duty shops and reliable friends. How reliable were my friends? My first Cuban cigar was the famed Monte #2 gifted to me from a friend whose child I tutored. He has a major construction business down in Miami with noted projects like the Miami Heat arena etc. . He acquired the cigars during his business meetings with the large developers in Miami. There is no doubt as to its authenticity (The cigar also passed every test including the most important one taste). The Monte #2 was one of the stronger Habanos I have tried and a very good cigar.
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Post by zambini on Mar 3, 2019 0:47:01 GMT -5
Ah, Mexico DF!! Will be there for a few days next month, and hoping there's a good pipe shop. Just to visit, as I am not looking/needing to buy tobacco or a pipe, though will happily do so if something looks tasty or beautiful. I wrote a couple of shops a month ago, but no response. Any recommendations? PS I no longer smoke sticks, so sorry to alter course on this thread. I am hoping zambini sees this and has some ideas. Hi, On Uruguay street in the Centro neighborhood there are a couple old fashion cigar makers who will blend scraps into pipe tobacco. Almost every Sanborn's diner has a tobacco department selling Mexican OTCs (many based on Middleton marques). If you want something more proper you could try Habano 2000 on Hamburgo street in the Zona Rosa or La Casa del Fumador on Ejercito Nacional in the Polanco neighborhood. There's also a Davidoff shop in Polanco that carries all their tobacco products. Do keep in mind that Mexico is much more cigar than pipe friendly.
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Post by Mac on Mar 3, 2019 9:57:55 GMT -5
Thanks very much, zambini. I look forward to visiting those places.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2019 11:02:20 GMT -5
IMHO cubans are nowhere like they use to be in the hay day pre-1994. Soil is burned out. Few good one still are Partagas No. 4 Series D robusto and Bolivar Petite Corona
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Post by Darin on Mar 3, 2019 13:21:01 GMT -5
Just FYI … a "real" Cuban cigar will almost always have a Triple Cap.
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