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Post by sperrytops on Jan 24, 2019 20:28:23 GMT -5
All right, what is all the hooplah over retro hale. I have smoked for almost 50 years and never retrohaled. I hear people saying it enhances the flavor. I've tried it, and can't find my way to do it correctly. Am I missing anything at all?
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Post by McWiggins on Jan 24, 2019 20:37:50 GMT -5
I have a hard time trying to explain but maybe this video might help. The guy does a real good job at explaining things and is relaxing. The "Bob Ross" of pipe smoking.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2019 20:49:50 GMT -5
Duane aka chasingembers will hopefully chime in on this thread and post his video as well. Muttenchops above does a great job of explaining 👍👍
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 24, 2019 20:53:23 GMT -5
I have a hard time trying to explain but maybe this video might help. The guy does a real good job at explaining things and is relaxing. The "Bob Ross" of pipe smoking. Good video. He explains it well. I'll give it a try. Incidentally, his style of presenting is a lot like Bob Ross. |
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Post by McWiggins on Jan 24, 2019 21:04:38 GMT -5
Yeah, his videos are great in that he tries to explain things easy in a calm manor. Which is what pipe smoking is about, slowing down and being calm.
I hope this helps. It does indead (for my taste) enhance flavors. Many times I can detect other notes in a blend. For example, a blend that is light on perique I can slightly detect but the moment I retrohale, my nose picks it up instantly.
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Post by AJ on Jan 24, 2019 23:06:48 GMT -5
I have a hard time trying to explain but maybe this video might help. The guy does a real good job at explaining things and is relaxing. The "Bob Ross" of pipe smoking. This video explains it far better than I could ever do. AJ |
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Post by cgvt on Jan 25, 2019 0:08:02 GMT -5
No reason to do it as far as I am concerned.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 25, 2019 5:04:57 GMT -5
All right, what is all the hooplah over retro hale. I have smoked for almost 50 years and never retrohaled. I hear people saying it enhances the flavor. I've tried it, and can't find my way to do it correctly. Am I missing anything at all? A few people explain what they do here... thebriarpatchforum.com/post/108363/threadMaybe that helps. To reiterate what's in my post. I kinda close my mouth and push my tongue up to the roof of my mouth. That forces some of the smoke out my nose. I think the point is that smell is a big player in taste, so by forcing the smoke through the nose it helps to pick up some of the nuances in the taste profile of the smoke. |
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Post by Stearmandriver on Jan 25, 2019 5:29:32 GMT -5
... I kinda close my mouth and push my tongue up to the roof of my mouth. That forces some of the smoke out my nose. Totally agree with this. I see people describe it as "puff smoke into your mouth and blow it out your nose" but I think there's more to the technique than that. What I would do if someone told me to do that is take a puff in, and then puff it somewhat forcefully, or at least quickly, out my nose, in an exhalation. I can say that, for me personally, simply doing that doesn't add any flavor for me, and makes my nose burn. I do as Legendlover describes, not really exhaling at all. I'm not puffing or blowing the smoke out my nose, I'm forcing it to trickle up and through my sinuses by pushing it up there with the back of my tongue. I'm sure this is a personal thing, given that we all experience flavors and smells a bit differently, but I can say that for me those two procedures (blowing smoke out my nose vs pushing it into my sinuses and letting it trickle out) produce VERY different experiences. I find the act of "blowing smoke out my nose" to be distinctly unpleasant. I taste nothing, my nose burns, and I start sneezing. I AVOID doing this. I retrohale about a third of my puffs though, because it more than doubles the flavor of the smoke for me. I pick up notes that I would never notice in tobacco otherwise. It doesn't burn my nose or make me sneeze. Plus, I find it almost meditative, very calming (I wonder if that's just increased nic absorption?) So it's funny - doing the same thing (taking smoke in my mouth and letting it out my nose) can result in almost opposite experiences depending on HOW I do it. As always, YMMV. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Jan 25, 2019 5:44:44 GMT -5
...way above my head, but if it floats your boat, go for it...
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Post by Darin on Jan 25, 2019 9:14:32 GMT -5
If you are capable of doing this correctly, it will provide much more taste to the tobacco than if you don't.
Those that can't, or don't want to, certainly will still enjoy their smokes.
However, saying it's not necessary in order to detect all the nuances is uninformed at best.
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Post by Butch Cassidy on Jan 25, 2019 10:01:00 GMT -5
Breathe air in your mouth, close mouth. Make air go out thru your nose. Now....do the same thing w/smoke.......
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Post by Butch Cassidy on Jan 25, 2019 10:02:51 GMT -5
Duane aka chasingembers will hopefully chime in on this thread and post his video as well. Muttenchops above does a great job of explaining 👍👍 I know he did a good one on the breath method. I didn't see the one on retro........... |
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Post by Stearmandriver on Jan 25, 2019 12:40:31 GMT -5
...way above my head, but if it floats your boat, go for it... That's the thing, it's not. It's dirt simple. It just requires a specific explanation to differentiate it from just "smoke in through mouth, out through nose." It's a little more specific than that. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 25, 2019 12:45:57 GMT -5
...way above my head, but if it floats your boat, go for it... That's the thing, it's not. It's dirt simple. It just requires a specific explanation to differentiate it from just "smoke in through mouth, out through nose." It's a little more specific than that. exactly... But it's quite hard to describe. It's also different to taking smoke in your mouth and exhaling through your nose. If you do that you can breathe in and out through your nose with the smoke remaining in your mouth. There's a little back of the throat action needed to allow the smoke to exit through your nose when exhaling. |
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Post by Scott W on Jan 25, 2019 20:37:16 GMT -5
With both Cigars and pipes, I need to use the retrohale method. Take the smoke in the mouth, close your mouth and slowly begin to depress the tongue to the roof of the mouth while exhaling through your nose. One of the best ways to get the maximum flavor out of your smoke without it getting into your lungs in my opinion. Everyone’s mileage may vary
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Post by flyinmanatee on Jan 26, 2019 0:29:42 GMT -5
Took me years to be able to do it with cigars. Still don't have a long thick steady stream of smoke as it is more like a short blast...and not picking up much more than pepper. And yet I can stick my nose in a glass of beer or whiskey and pick up a myriad of flavors.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 0:41:29 GMT -5
I can do it, but I really don't get a lot of added enjoyment from it. And if I do it with Virginias, it makes me sneeze.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jan 26, 2019 3:17:42 GMT -5
I do the same thing as I do while drinking wine. Hold a little in the mouth and exhale through the nose while letting it roll around and cover the tongue.
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Post by rmb on Jan 27, 2019 10:43:42 GMT -5
I’ve additionally found that retrohaling English and Balkan blends to be the best for me, although I do like the tingle of a vaper and find a lot of the tin note doing this with certain aromatics as well. Tried retrohaling some Carter Hall yesterday and it stung pretty severely, dunno what that was about.
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Post by cgvt on Jan 29, 2019 9:56:50 GMT -5
If you are capable of doing this correctly, it will provide much more taste to the tobacco than if you don't. Those that can't, or don't want to, certainly will still enjoy their smokes. However, saying it's not necessary in order to detect all the nuances is uninformed at best. Haha! Ok. If you are capable of doing it correctly, it won't provide any more taste to the tobacco Those that can and want to, certainly will still enjoy their smokes However, saying that it is necessary in order to detect all the nuances is pretentious and uniformed at best. Carry on.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 17:19:15 GMT -5
I always get a kick out of how people will take something that has been done for eons and change the name to make sound
(to them) like it's new and so very special. Retro-haling? There's no trick here, I've done it all my smoking years (40+), it's exhaling
out your nose. Yeah, it increases the enjoyment for me at times but, has also served other purposes, like in some instances not exhaling
directly in someones face. Maybe I'm just too old to accept new ways or sayings but, to give you another instance, hide away headlights
originally came out(IIRC)in the late 30's with the Cord and were revived in the 70's or there about as NEW! BS! Although they weren't given
a new name they still were not new to the industry.
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Post by yaddy306 on Jan 29, 2019 22:19:28 GMT -5
I always get a kick out of how people will take something that has been done for eons and change the name to make sound (to them) like it's new and so very special. Retro-haling? There's no trick here, I've done it all my smoking years (40+), it's exhaling out your nose. Yeah, it increases the enjoyment for me at times but, has also served other purposes, like in some instances not exhaling directly in someones face. Maybe I'm just too old to accept new ways or sayings What are people changing the name from? Do you have a better word to describe it? Because "exhaling out your nose" doesn't fully describe it, plus it's four times as many words. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 22:36:00 GMT -5
I always get a kick out of how people will take something that has been done for eons and change the name to make sound (to them) like it's new and so very special. Retro-haling? There's no trick here, I've done it all my smoking years (40+), it's exhaling out your nose. Yeah, it increases the enjoyment for me at times but, has also served other purposes, like in some instances not exhaling directly in someones face. Maybe I'm just too old to accept new ways or sayings What are people changing the name from? Do you have a better word to describe it? Because "exhaling out your nose" doesn't fully describe it, plus it's four times as many words. Tell me how retro haling explains anything? LOL! I know now days it seems that the English language is so drawn out that everyone has to cut it down to save there vocal cords. Saying "exhaling out my nose" is not a problem for me and explains it for me just fine.
To each his own it seems, so you can call it anything you wish sir and I'll call it what I see fit to.
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Post by Stearmandriver on Jan 29, 2019 22:42:35 GMT -5
The point I made earlier in this thread is just that: "exhaling out the nose" is actually an inaccurate description of what is being called "retrohaling", at least for some of us.
When I exhale smoke out my nose, it sucks. It burns my nose and makes me sneeze.
When I do what's being called "retrohaling", it's pleasant and more full of flavor than any other way I can smoke. There's not even an exhalation involved.
The two things are not the same; they're almost opposite, at least for me. I get the sense I'm not alone, though I'd never suggest that applies for everyone.
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Post by AJ on Jan 30, 2019 0:54:32 GMT -5
As I usually inhale about every third puff retrohaling comes naturally but provides little taste, however, if I French inhale there’s a significant increase of flavor but lacks flavor on the retrohale. I began inhaling cigarettes many years ago and when I laid the cigarettes down and took up the pipe full time I continued to inhale. Probably not the healthiest way to smoke but the flavor profile is consistently more intense. If I just take a puff and exhale through my nose there is some noticeable taste but nowhere as intense when I inhale the smoke into my lungs. For those that may think I’m slowly killing myself let me assure you that isn’t the case. Last October I had a nuclear lung scan performed along with an x-ray with contrast and my lungs are in great condition. There was no evidence of any scarring, blood clots, tumors, or COPD. My lung function is great. Also had a scan on the rest of my vital organs and all of them are disease free. Only my kidneys are an area of concern but this is do to the effects of diabetes. In summary: I get the most taste and flavor by inhaling with little or no taste or flavor when I retrohale unless I retrohale without drawing the smoke into my lungs. YMMV
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Post by yaddy306 on Jan 30, 2019 6:59:45 GMT -5
Well, there aren't any olfactory receptors in anyone's lungs, so any increase in flavour you're getting isn't because you are inhaling the smoke.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jan 30, 2019 8:03:17 GMT -5
Let's revert to the term "snorking".
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Post by Baboo on Jan 30, 2019 8:42:02 GMT -5
Sidestreaming is another pivot-point method to the enjoyment of pipe smoking, best practiced in windless environs. Nose-warmers and short baby pipes are best suited.
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Post by Dramatwist on Jan 30, 2019 9:02:46 GMT -5
...I'll just stick to calling it "smoking a pipe"... you kids do what you like and have fun...
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