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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 12:23:53 GMT -5
The tobacco apocalypse is coming . . .
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Jan 29, 2019 13:08:53 GMT -5
Ecigs are already banned here in thailand. Totally. Online offline doesn't matter. I have no idea why nor do most people. Cigarettes? Nobody cares
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 13:26:09 GMT -5
The bill will ban all tobacco products from being sold online and ban all flavored tobacco products, aka aromatics.
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Post by briarbuck on Jan 29, 2019 13:30:46 GMT -5
Stores will just advertise and customers will have to call. Not sure that this will curtail many folks from getting product. In fact, it may help with the shortages that are being caused by easy access from your home computer or phone.
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Post by gav on Jan 29, 2019 13:47:09 GMT -5
this sucks but at least it will curtail my out of control spending habits lol.
BTW this will not pass.
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Post by kxg on Jan 29, 2019 13:52:50 GMT -5
Apparently the bill was introduced a month ago and as of yesterday had no co-sponsors. That may indicate it has a low chance of getting out of the house in its present version. Hopefully that works out.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 14:21:30 GMT -5
I knew it was inevitable, as I stated in a few threads prior.
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Post by AJ on Jan 29, 2019 16:53:39 GMT -5
It may not be through this Bill but the forbidding of internet sales of all tobacco products is coming. Best you stash now.
AJ
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Post by trailboss on Jan 29, 2019 17:09:19 GMT -5
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jan 29, 2019 17:15:34 GMT -5
The article doesn't specifically mention pipe tobacco, but I would assume that it will eventually cover that was well. A ban on Internet sales would not surprise me in the least. The only surprise so far is that it hasn't already happened. Mail order will also become a thing of the past under the terms of this bill. Your local B&M will become your only source. You've all been supporting your local B&M's right?
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Post by toshtego on Jan 29, 2019 17:21:47 GMT -5
We would return to catalogue sales.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 29, 2019 17:30:06 GMT -5
We would return to catalogue sales. do you think? Or would they ensure that loophole is plugged? |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 29, 2019 17:30:56 GMT -5
We would return to catalogue sales. The first paragraph in the original post link: A new bill introduced in Congress would drastically change the U.S. federal government’s laws regarding tobacco products, most notably, banning the sale of cigars online and through catalogs. |
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Post by puffy on Jan 29, 2019 17:33:24 GMT -5
Most bills don't get passed..Hope this will be one that doesn't.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 29, 2019 17:38:34 GMT -5
She sounds like a real peach! the committee she chairs, and being a senior member of the agriculture committee puts her in a place that I wish she wasn’t.... it sounds like she has an axe to grind against tobacco.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 17:44:45 GMT -5
Online ban would definitely give local B&M's an advantage. My guess is you would see blends exclusive to online shops such as P&C to start a distribution chain to B&M if it comes to that. One thing for sure it would change the whole dynamic for those online retailers.
Ban on all flavored tobacco has been submitted in Cali and now in this bill. That is worrying that some of the beloved aromatics would go away. Maybe aromatics go underground with a lot of DIY for those feeling adventurous in trying to recreate recipes. I for one would probably try a few experiments if it came to it.
Seems like the continued assault will win someday if not with this bill some other bill that gets slipped in to some big legislation. Writing is on the wall and the future is not so bright.
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Post by skeeter456 on Jan 29, 2019 18:08:19 GMT -5
Hope it does not pass!
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Post by instymp on Jan 29, 2019 18:34:37 GMT -5
Most bills don't get passed..Hope this will be one that doesn't. Oh that one will. Our Gov. will protect you from yourself. |
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Post by qmechanics on Jan 29, 2019 18:53:20 GMT -5
Thank you big sister!! 😁
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Post by libertysmoke on Jan 29, 2019 19:32:43 GMT -5
EVIL OLIGARCHICAL BastTardos !! & B_tches
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jan 29, 2019 19:35:53 GMT -5
Online ban would definitely give local B&M's an advantage. My guess is you would see blends exclusive to online shops such as P&C to start a distribution chain to B&M if it comes to that. One thing for sure it would change the whole dynamic for those online retailers. Ban on all flavored tobacco has been submitted in Cali and now in this bill. That is worrying that some of the beloved aromatics would go away. Maybe aromatics go underground with a lot of DIY for those feeling adventurous in trying to recreate recipes. I for one would probably try a few experiments if it came to it. Seems like the continued assault will win someday if not with this bill some other bill that gets slipped in to some big legislation. Writing is on the wall and the future is not so bright. you could use concentrated food flavoring, like they use for vape liquid, for aromatics. You can get them PG or Alcohol based. I'd assume, probably correctly, that that's what most manufacturers use anyway. I was thinking of messing around with an apple, butternut, and red oak blend. Seedmans has specific tobacco flavoring. www.seedman.com/flavor.htm(Edit: these flavors are also used in vape liquid. I used the Captain Black, with vanilla, cocao, and raisin for years in one of my liquid blends) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 7:18:11 GMT -5
Many of us have known for quite some time the current arrangement would be short lived. Some of us accumulated enough tobacco to be a B&M and have no worries. There are priorities and then there are priorities. Today's modern day Tom Sawyer knows changes aren't permanent but change is. In the words of George Washington Plunkitt of Tammany Hall fame, "I seen my opportunities and I took 'em."
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Jan 30, 2019 7:37:51 GMT -5
this sucks but at least it will curtail my out of control spending habits lol. BTW this will not pass.No, I don't think it will either |
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 30, 2019 11:53:02 GMT -5
Many of us have known for quite some time the current arrangement would be short lived. Some of us accumulated enough tobacco to be a B&M and have no worries. There are priorities and then there are priorities. Today's modern day Tom Sawyer knows changes aren't permanent but change is. In the words of George Washington Plunkitt of Tammany Hall fame, "I seen my opportunities and I took 'em." I'm just a little frustrated I entered the race a little late and don't have enough funds to rectify that. |
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Post by Mac on Jan 30, 2019 12:43:05 GMT -5
It may not be through this Bill but the forbidding of internet sales of all tobacco products is coming. Best you stash now. AJ I disagree about the ban. But the wise course is to prepare for the doomsday scenario. Meantime, support your local tobacconist. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 30, 2019 19:40:36 GMT -5
We would return to catalogue sales. I agree with toshtego. Be like going back to the 50's when Sears was still in business. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 30, 2019 19:42:21 GMT -5
Many of us have known for quite some time the current arrangement would be short lived. Some of us accumulated enough tobacco to be a B&M and have no worries. There are priorities and then there are priorities. Today's modern day Tom Sawyer knows changes aren't permanent but change is. In the words of George Washington Plunkitt of Tammany Hall fame, "I seen my opportunities and I took 'em." I'm just a little frustrated I entered the race a little late and don't have enough funds to rectify that. Well, we can always order from Germany. I don't think they'll ever stop smoking. |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Jan 30, 2019 20:08:12 GMT -5
It smacks of "For the Sake of the Children" horse sh!t that seems to spew from the mouths of socialist minded folk that think they are all obviously more informed, therefore more intelligent on such matters and need to keep us knuckle draggin, mouth breathers in line.
(not that I have an opinion on it one way or the other. ;-P)
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Post by blackmouth210 on Jan 30, 2019 20:20:32 GMT -5
"The tobacco apocalypse is coming"
I think this thread marks the millionth time I've heard or read that over the last twenty years.
I think I'll have a smoke to celebrate my 1-millionth while I wait.
😉
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Post by trailboss on Jan 30, 2019 20:30:59 GMT -5
I'm just a little frustrated I entered the race a little late and don't have enough funds to rectify that. Well, we can always order from Germany. I don't think they'll ever stop smoking. A nice thought, but if Internet and email sales are halted domestically, the same will happen with international shipments. I deal with international shipments daily, and a commercial invoice is required...If this eventually gets passed, and it probably will, international shipments will not go un-noticed under their watchful gaze... (and without referring to the text right now as I am mobile)... “mail” means mail, foreign or domestic. |
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