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Post by kirk13 on Feb 4, 2019 15:07:37 GMT -5
Now,I've got a few pipes that I enjoy smoking. I've a few pipes that seem to like any tobacco I put in them. I've got other pipes that will only smoke certain tobaccos well...
So,and I know this is a noob question,what makes a good smoker?
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Post by Cramptholomew on Feb 4, 2019 15:22:26 GMT -5
In my limited experience, I think any pipe that smokes what you want it to smoke well, is a good smoker. My Pete 303 has a more restricted draw, but smokes just about anything well, slowly. My bent nosewarmer has a wide open draw, and smokes just about any cut well. My Stanwell 63M smokes Virginias particularly well. Some of my stinger pipes (Grabows and Kaywoodies) smoke drier ribbon cuts well. I think, mostly, they're all good smokers - with the exception of a few that like to clog, might get too warm, or gurgle like hell, any pipe that can smoke at least SOMETHING well is a good smoker.
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Post by Low and Slow on Feb 4, 2019 15:29:41 GMT -5
I want to suppose that it is you, or ourselves that makes a good smoker! From there I feel like it's just variables of quality, style, and preference to the one who is smoking. That said, I'm on the path of discovery too when it comes to all things pipe, and I look forward to seeing any veteran responses to this thread.
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Post by peteguy on Feb 4, 2019 16:16:19 GMT -5
One who gifts me pipe tobacco........
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Post by Mac on Feb 4, 2019 17:17:48 GMT -5
If you like the pipe, it's a good smoker. None of my pipes is inherently better at producing a good smoke and none are bad, unless they need cleaning. I like larger chambers for flake tobacco when I don't rub it out. Beyond that, I grab whatever pipe catches my fancy at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 17:40:12 GMT -5
If it’s a briar, well aged briar makes a big difference whether the pipe will be a good smoker or a superb smoker......JMHO. All of my Morta and Meer Pipes are excellent smokers👍👍. I have some “ DOGS “ put aside that don’t smoke any tobacco decently!! If the “ mechanics “ of the pipe is spot on, chances are you’ll have a real good smoking pipe!!
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Post by slowroll on Feb 4, 2019 18:33:50 GMT -5
A major contributor is good drilling, centered on the bowl, and smooth with no ridges in the draft hole right to the button. And, the optimal diameter of drilling, which I think is 5/32 inch from the shank to the beginning of the taper in the stem. Having said that, if the briar isn't well aged and dry from a good supplier, it'll taste flat. All of the above smokes anything well. Unless of course ya smoke a gooper in it
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Post by Dramatwist on Feb 4, 2019 18:41:22 GMT -5
...as long as you have a wide-open draw, you should be good...
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Post by Low and Slow on Feb 4, 2019 18:45:07 GMT -5
If it’s a briar, well aged briar makes a big difference whether the pipe will be a good smoker or a superb smoker......JMHO. All of my Morta and Meer Pipes are excellent smokers👍👍. I have some “ DOGS “ put aside that don’t smoke any tobacco decently!! If the “ mechanics “ of the pipe is spot on, chances are you’ll have a real good smoking pipe!! I'm so fascinated with Morta. The pipe is old even when it's new! I WILL get one someday... For the sake of looking at this the other way, What at makes them "dogs" in your opinion, is it purely mechanics that makes a "bad" smoker? Age I get, as wood has its curing rates and conditions, but to what degree are the mechanics of a pipe NOT able to be modified?
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Post by Cramptholomew on Feb 4, 2019 18:49:17 GMT -5
...as long as you have a wide-open draw, you should be good... I have a Willmer bent apple, and the draft is about an 1/8" to the left. It's not drilled straight. BUT, it's a good wide draft, and the pipe smokes everything great - especially aromatics. Never had a single problem with it. Some of my stinger pipes, and pipes with restricted drafts don't smoke nearly as well - even if they're drilled straight.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 18:51:19 GMT -5
If it’s a briar, well aged briar makes a big difference whether the pipe will be a good smoker or a superb smoker......JMHO. All of my Morta and Meer Pipes are excellent smokers👍👍. I have some “ DOGS “ put aside that don’t smoke any tobacco decently!! If the “ mechanics “ of the pipe is spot on, chances are you’ll have a real good smoking pipe!! I'm so fascinated with Morta. The pipe is old even when it's new! I WILL get one someday... For the sake of looking at this the other way, What at makes them "dogs" in your opinion, is it purely mechanics that makes a "bad" smoker? Age I get, as wood has its curing rates and conditions, but to what degree are the mechanics of a pipe NOT able to be modified? The mechanics and well aged briar makes all the difference. I have a few “ high end “ pipes where the draft is far off center in the bowl. A few where the draft is dead center but to far above the bottom of the chamber. I own a Radice that I opened the draft to 5/32”, was to restricted from the maker. ALL the mechanics were perfect, but the draft size did not suit my liking for sure. It’s now an excellent smoker, like a Radice should be👍
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Post by Low and Slow on Feb 4, 2019 18:58:43 GMT -5
I'm so fascinated with Morta. The pipe is old even when it's new! I WILL get one someday... For the sake of looking at this the other way, What at makes them "dogs" in your opinion, is it purely mechanics that makes a "bad" smoker? Age I get, as wood has its curing rates and conditions, but to what degree are the mechanics of a pipe NOT able to be modified? The mechanics and well aged briar makes all the difference. I have a few “ high end “ pipes where the draft is far off center in the bowl. A few where the draft is dead center but to far above the bottom of the chamber. I own a Radice that I opened the draft to 5/32”, was to restricted from the maker. ALL the mechanics were perfect, but the draft size did not suit my liking for sure. It’s now an excellent smoker, like a Radice should be👍 Thanks! I may need to see about opening up the draft on my churchwarden, it seems too tight to me. It smokes nice, but I think it would be more enjoyable with a wider draft as you describe. Sorry your "high end" pipes turned out that way, bummer.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Feb 4, 2019 19:06:00 GMT -5
All of my pipes smoke a little different and I've learned how each one smokes. Good to me depends on what I'm smoking. With english blends I like a very open draw. Virginia's I like more restricted, but not too much. Aros, somewhere in between. Good or bad to me is comparable to selecting blends, and cuts, for each pipe.
I have one pipe that will not burn right regardless of how I pack it. The front will never burn unless I constantly mess with it. It is a BAD smoker and it's found its place in a box in my desk. I have another that will not stay lit regardless of cadence... it has also found a coffin. If I have to constantly think about, and fiddle with what I'm smoking, it's bad.
There are a few that smoke perfect to me with anything I put in them. I like to pack a pipe, light it, only have to tamp or occasionally relight, and sometimes run a pipe cleaner through it for moisture. Too much playing with it makes it more of a chore.
I have 2 that the drilling is off. One smokes good, one bad
My 2 Briar Spirit pipes, my Grabow Freehand and my Bones pipe are the first 4 that come to mind when I think of a "good smoker."
Cobs... I havent ran into a bad one
Effortless to get a good smoke.
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Post by slowroll on Feb 4, 2019 19:30:37 GMT -5
Regarding wide open draw, I've experimented on some pipes I made and found that too wide a draft hole goes not smoke well. Tastes very airy and bland, and doesn't give a satisfying draw of smoke. 5/32 is about the widest to me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 19:33:33 GMT -5
Definitely ^^^^^^^^^^ 5/32” is the biggest diameter for a perfect draft hole👍
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Post by Baboo on Feb 4, 2019 19:45:32 GMT -5
Corn makes a good smoker... can't go wrong with corn... 🤠🌽🌽🌽
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Post by Cramptholomew on Feb 4, 2019 20:03:31 GMT -5
Definitely ^^^^^^^^^^ 5/32” is the biggest diameter for a perfect draft hole👍 I've been using 3/16, which is 1/32 bigger. That works fine too, I wouldn't go any bigger, though.
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Post by jackdiamond on Feb 4, 2019 20:13:07 GMT -5
Nothing to add, but drilling + a shank & stem that don't build up moisture too bad are qualities that I look for in a pipe.
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Post by exchef on Feb 4, 2019 20:33:37 GMT -5
Well, I think it’s a matter of preference. Some people like a vertical smoker whereas I prefer a nice size horizontal with an offset firebox…oh, wait you were talking pipes.
I don’t have an answer when it comes to pipes as I am still gaining experience. What I can tell you is that there is a true science to making pipes and making them well. There are so many ways that a pipe’s function could be diminished like poor drilling of the chamber, stem or shank, poor cleaning.
What I have found is that if you pack the bowl with about ¼ less than you think you need for a full bowl and pack it down less it will burn more cleanly, evenly and with less relights. I would rather pack half a bowl and go for a second of the same then overpack and be unhappy with the smoke.
Your mileage may vary.
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Post by AJ on Feb 4, 2019 23:08:13 GMT -5
Now,I've got a few pipes that I enjoy smoking. I've a few pipes that seem to like any tobacco I put in them. I've got other pipes that will only smoke certain tobaccos well... So,and I know this is a noob question,what makes a good smoker? One that pushes all the right buttons for you. In other words, one you enjoy smoking. AJ
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Post by Dramatwist on Feb 4, 2019 23:25:04 GMT -5
Now,I've got a few pipes that I enjoy smoking. I've a few pipes that seem to like any tobacco I put in them. I've got other pipes that will only smoke certain tobaccos well... So,and I know this is a noob question,what makes a good smoker? One that pushes all the right buttons for you. In other words, one you enjoy smoking. AJ ...now, here is reliable advice... if it smokes good for you, it's a good smoker... thanks, AJ... we all get so wrapped up in mechanics...
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Post by monbla256 on Feb 5, 2019 1:48:19 GMT -5
One that pushes all the right buttons for you. In other words, one you enjoy smoking. AJ ...now, here is reliable advice... if it smokes good for you, it's a good smoker... thanks, AJ... we all get so wrapped up in mechanics... This for sure !!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2019 2:39:14 GMT -5
Some times it is easier to forget about the briar and worry about the stem. I like a nice stem with a good button and open enough inside to pass a big fluffy pipe cleaner. Maybe a little file work on the stem inside the button. My own collection of pipes is nothing to brag about but the ones that I keep smoking have good stems regardless of how good the wood looks. A small set of needle files is a must for me as part of my kit.
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Post by Legend Lover on Feb 5, 2019 8:12:55 GMT -5
Corn makes a good smoker... can't go wrong with corn... 🤠🌽🌽🌽 This right here. I wonder is it the corn coupled with the wider draught hole that makes it a better smoker? To me, it seems that you're looking for almost a scientific reason why one pipe is better than another, which is a genuine question and it's one to which I can relate, but one I can't really answer. How a pipe that pushes your buttons accomplishes that is still a mystery to me.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Feb 5, 2019 8:25:51 GMT -5
For me it's any pipe that draws easily and cleanly and stays lit. I have some cheap polish pipes that would not stay lit if my life depended on it. It's a good thing my life doesn't depend on those polish pipes. I would have died many times already!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 11:24:32 GMT -5
Have a couple of London "rejects" that never disappoint. Have a Tinderbox reject and it's also a perfect smoker. A larger than average bowl is not for me, no matter the make.
How long does it take to break in a new pipe? I've been wondering.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2019 11:49:09 GMT -5
Some smoke good from the get go others my take 25-30 bowls. I put a little dab of honey inside the bowl and it makes a very hard cake. YMMV
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Post by Dramatwist on Feb 7, 2019 15:54:45 GMT -5
I consider a new pipe broken in when the interior of the bowl is black with carbon, unless it was pre-carbonized. I don't subscribe to cake of any thickness.
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Post by slowroll on Feb 7, 2019 17:11:36 GMT -5
Good briar should be broken in after about 8-9 bowls I find.
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Post by JimK on Feb 11, 2019 14:31:36 GMT -5
Interesting question. I've never really thought about it much. I suppose any pipe that is comfortable, not too heavy, with reasonably thick walls would be a good smoker. I've never limited any of my pipes to one particular blend, or family of blends....with but two exceptions; a calabash and a lion's head meerschaum. These two are reserved for English/Balkan blends. The rest take whatever suits my fancy of the moment.
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