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Post by McWiggins on Feb 9, 2019 13:46:40 GMT -5
The site cellarlabels.com is no more.  There was an issue over making available tobacco art without the large warning labels. As one who makes my side of my households income through art, I understand why it went away. On the other hand, when I jar up my tobacco, I like to have the art on the jar for display and I want it without the stupid warning labels. With that said and even if it goes unheard, those in the industry who care to protect their property, I implore you to make available a way for us to put your art on our tobacco. We care enough about your product to purchase, stuck up and label your hard work that sits in our home. We do not care to have your beautiful work destroyed with a bold warning. If by law you cannot provide this, like as a download we can print and stick on our little mason jars, then find some way to work with the community that supports you. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Feb 9, 2019 13:51:20 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 13:59:38 GMT -5
That’s a darn shame the site is no more, gone forever. Our politicians are attempting to take tobacco products out of “ young minds “ as they...” politicians “ get caught with “ white powder “ under their nose!
The worst I hate to admit has yet to come!!
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Post by McWiggins on Feb 9, 2019 14:11:52 GMT -5
The sad thing is the government created the want/need for someone to create the site to help provide for free, what us who are OCD about our cellars were wanting and needing. Thats why I said I understand the industry wanting to protect their property but to please find a way to work with us, the fans of the product and its art work.
Then again, I also understand them (those in the tobacco industry) having to send cease and desist orders to the website.
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Post by Legend Lover on Feb 9, 2019 14:15:06 GMT -5
I don't understand why the government care about what you print out for yourself. It's baffling.
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Post by McWiggins on Feb 9, 2019 14:22:19 GMT -5
I think that's where I'm screwing up in explaining. The tobacco industry was not happy about the website. They want to protect their intellectual property and as such, had to send a legal letter.
As I understand it, if the person running the site had asked, some might have agreed to let it be. I cannot take sides as I make income from my art. I just wish the industry would find a way to work with us OCD in our cellar setup.
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Post by Baboo on Feb 9, 2019 14:25:45 GMT -5
I would like to see tins packaged with an extra stickum label or decal inside... should be an affordable producer bonus to the consumer, IDK.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Feb 9, 2019 14:27:25 GMT -5
That's a good idea. It could be placed on the small piece of cardboard inside tins.
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Post by Spartacus on Feb 9, 2019 14:29:52 GMT -5
It's easy to print tin labels for your cellar. You don't need a website. It's not a very clear picture  |
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Post by peteguy on Feb 9, 2019 14:32:26 GMT -5
It was more about the owners of the product than any govt regulations. I never agreed with the principle of taking art work from somebody else and using it without consent. I do agree with the statement of asking these tobacco companies to provide the service where we can download their art for our own use or include it with a purchase. Some people will say just use google and photoshop but some of us are lazy bastards.
I just saw Spartacus post above mine - he is not a lazy bastard!!! Sweet cellar.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Feb 9, 2019 14:34:10 GMT -5
It's easy to print tin labels for your cellar. You don't need a website. It's not a very clear picture that setup is, as Yankee Doodle would say, "MACARONI!". With all that baccy, who needs a cedar closet! |
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Post by McWiggins on Feb 9, 2019 14:36:40 GMT -5
I dont know the law. If they cant sell or even give away tin art labels, then please let fans help each other. Provided these fans are not making money from this.
If they can give away or sell unaltered tin art labels, then please, work with us. Hell, I'll even pay 50 cents per sticker. It doesnt have to be embossed or anything fancy. I just want something on my mason jars to say what the tobacco is and the art that goes with it.
Currently, I make my own but I'd support those that make what I have a passion for if they made it available.
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Post by McWiggins on Feb 9, 2019 14:43:22 GMT -5
It's easy to print tin labels for your cellar. You don't need a website. It's not a very clear picture I agree and I see you and I do the same thing with our cellars.  Mine though is on a book shelf and so I make top and side labels. Many do not have the skills or equipment to do what we do. I felt the now closed website helped them out. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Feb 9, 2019 14:43:58 GMT -5
I dont know the law. If they cant sell or even give away tin art labels, then please let fans help each other. Provided these fans are not making money from this. If they can give away or sell unaltered tin art labels, then please, work with us. Hell, I'll even pay 50 cents per sticker. It doesnt have to be embossed or anything fancy. I just want something on my mason jars to say what the tobacco is the art that goes with it. Currently, I make my own but I'd support those that make what I have a passion for if they made it available. that site didn't have a lot of labels for what I was looking for, so I ended up doing Google image searches, and using the best image of a tin, cropping it, and using the Avery Labels site to make my labels out of it. It took a whole lot longer, and some of the labels are grainy, but it worked. I'm totally on board with label stickers in the tins, or even offered for sale. I'd plaster my car with Black Frigate and Squadron Leader! What I REALLY want is a black Squadron Leader t-shirt. That would be killer. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Feb 9, 2019 14:45:07 GMT -5
I think that's where I'm screwing up in explaining. The tobacco industry was not happy about the website. They want to protect their intellectual property and as such, had to send a legal letter. As I understand it, if the person running the site had asked, some might have agreed to let it be. I cannot take sides as I make income from my art. I just wish the industry would find a way to work with us OCD in our cellar setup. sorry, I misunderstood. Get you now. I love what SG do by putting their tins in a box that contains the warnings but the tin is warning-free. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2019 14:54:49 GMT -5
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^ “ Google image searches “. I’ve done this for years, plenty of images to choose from👍 Also the online retailers we buy from have excellent images of all tobacco products. Do screen shots if needed of the tobacco’s you smoke or plan to smoke in the future before they are ALL “ marred “ up. Just save in a folder on your computer or tablet. Also back up your images on a cloud service you use.
Office Depot sells packages of full sheet printable one side and sticky on the other. Works well for me, have fun!!!
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Post by McWiggins on Feb 9, 2019 15:06:50 GMT -5
I currently make my labels as I do tops and sides of jars. If I can, I scan in my own labels and from that and the internet, I keep a database of labels. My computer is setup so that one drive is my data drive of pictures, music, video, documents and more. I backup this drive once a month to a drive that is locked away in a fire safe and every three months a second backup drive is updated and put away in my shed. Like a cheap offsite backup.
So the site is not a big loss to me but to those without the skills, what labels they did have helped make pretty their cellar.
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Post by slowroll on Feb 9, 2019 16:42:56 GMT -5
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^ “ Google image searches “. I’ve done this for years, plenty of images to choose from👍 Also the online retailers we buy from have excellent images of all tobacco products. Do screen shots if needed of the tobacco’s you smoke or plan to smoke in the future before they are ALL “ marred “ up. Just save in a folder on your computer or tablet. Also back up your images on a cloud service you use. Office Depot sells packages of full sheet printable one side and sticky on the other. Works well for me, have fun!!! I've been cabbaging the label pics by taking screenshots from the SP label pictures and printing on plain paper and taping them on the jars. I noticed that some of the Avery labels lift after a while on glass. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Feb 9, 2019 18:27:15 GMT -5
Copyright is a tricky thing. As a playwright, I rely on the Dramatist's Guild to help protect my right to be paid for intellectual property. Though I never used it, I thought the cellar labels site was benign, as it wasn't used to make money.
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Post by Low and Slow on Feb 9, 2019 18:29:22 GMT -5
I would like to see tins packaged with an extra stickum label or decal inside... should be an affordable producer bonus to the consumer, IDK. I had that same thought! |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 9, 2019 19:48:02 GMT -5
I wish I had heard about this site sooner.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 9, 2019 21:11:09 GMT -5
Too much of a PITA for me to print colored labels, and I am an admitted cheapskate when buying ink cartridges...when I am feeling OCD, I use my P-touch printer.
It sucks that the site is gone for those that used it to label their blends.
If it was Initiated by the tobacco producers, it is their right though...they pay the fees to copyright and license their product and artwork...I could see where an "enterprising" individual prints out tobacco labels of unobtainium blends, and tinning some rubbed out cigar butts into a tin and putting it on eBay.
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Post by libertysmoke on Feb 11, 2019 0:56:15 GMT -5
The site cellarlabels.com is no more. There was an issue over making available tobacco art without the large warning labels. As one who makes my side of my households income through art, I understand why it went away. On the other hand, when I jar up my tobacco, I like to have the art on the jar for display and I want it without the stupid warning labels. With that said and even if it goes unheard, those in the industry who care to protect their property, I implore you to make available a way for us to put your art on our tobacco. We care enough about your product to purchase, stuck up and label your hard work that sits in our home. We do not care to have your beautiful work destroyed with a bold warning. If by law you cannot provide this, like as a download we can print and stick on our little mason jars, then find some way to work with the community that supports you. hi McW. , I was going to post a question relating {very similar} to this topic . I.e. - I saw a tin {Sam Gawith I think} that someone had in England ... The warning part was a wrap-around piece of thin cardboard type paper that one could discard ... Keeping the {tin} artwork in tact ! Why has no one else thought of &/or done this !?!! Seems pretty simple . no? |
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Post by libertysmoke on Feb 11, 2019 1:04:29 GMT -5
I think that's where I'm screwing up in explaining. The tobacco industry was not happy about the website. They want to protect their intellectual property and as such, had to send a legal letter. As I understand it, if the person running the site had asked, some might have agreed to let it be. I cannot take sides as I make income from my art. I just wish the industry would find a way to work with us OCD in our cellar setup. sorry, I misunderstood. Get you now. I love what SG do by putting their tins in a box that contains the warnings but the tin is warning-free. Ah ! So it was an SG tin that i saw {english guy} on yt ... Don't know if you saw my post down below ? @legend Lover |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2019 2:48:57 GMT -5
I wish I had heard about this site sooner. Me too! |
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Post by McWiggins on Feb 11, 2019 11:12:33 GMT -5
The site cellarlabels.com is no more. There was an issue over making available tobacco art without the large warning labels. As one who makes my side of my households income through art, I understand why it went away. On the other hand, when I jar up my tobacco, I like to have the art on the jar for display and I want it without the stupid warning labels. With that said and even if it goes unheard, those in the industry who care to protect their property, I implore you to make available a way for us to put your art on our tobacco. We care enough about your product to purchase, stuck up and label your hard work that sits in our home. We do not care to have your beautiful work destroyed with a bold warning. If by law you cannot provide this, like as a download we can print and stick on our little mason jars, then find some way to work with the community that supports you. hi McW. , I was going to post a question relating {very similar} to this topic . I.e. - I saw a tin {Sam Gawith I think} that someone had in England ... The warning part was a wrap-around piece of thin cardboard type paper that one could discard ... Keeping the {tin} artwork in tact ! Why has no one else thought of &/or done this !?!! Seems pretty simple . no? Im not sure. If I had to guess it would be one of two reasons. 1. Cost, simply that, cost. We in America pay a low price compared to many others and we tend to expect to pay a little and get a lot. The extra packaging would cost more and even a fifty cent increase would cause an outcry. The industry already deals with increases in cost due to regulations let alone adding cost just for packaging. 2. The law. I dont know the details of our laws but it might be that ours are written in a way that prevents the industry from doing such a thing. It wouldnt surprise me. |
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Post by libertysmoke on Feb 11, 2019 11:17:37 GMT -5
hi McW. , I was going to post a question relating {very similar} to this topic . I.e. - I saw a tin {Sam Gawith I think} that someone had in England ... The warning part was a wrap-around piece of thin cardboard type paper that one could discard ... Keeping the {tin} artwork in tact ! Why has no one else thought of &/or done this !?!! Seems pretty simple . no? Im not sure. If I had to guess it would be one of two reasons. 1. Cost, simply that, cost. We in America pay a low price compared to many others and we tend to expect to pay a little and get a lot. The extra packaging would cost more and even a fifty cent increase would cause an outcry. The industry already deals with increases in cost due to regulations let alone adding cost just for packaging. 2. The law. I dont know the details of our laws but it might be that ours are written in a way that prevents the industry from doing such a thing. It wouldnt surprise me. I had the same exact thoughts ... |
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Mine though is on a book shelf and so I make top and side labels. Many do not have the skills or equipment to do what we do. I felt the now closed website helped them out.
