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Post by urbino on Jan 21, 2024 21:24:24 GMT -5
I would pass on those.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 21, 2024 21:36:26 GMT -5
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Post by urbino on Jan 21, 2024 22:32:16 GMT -5
The fact that there are so many companies who can keep the doors open selling nothing but multiple-six-figure gear is probably indicative of a larger problem not appropriate to this forum. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 22, 2024 0:30:39 GMT -5
The fact that there are so many companies who can keep the doors open selling nothing but multiple-six-figure gear is probably indicative of a larger problem not appropriate to this forum. You got that right! |
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 22, 2024 0:42:50 GMT -5
I listen from 1tb of music mostly FLAC through my stack of Schiit through whatever headphones I have decided to be my favorite in the hear/here and now.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 22, 2024 16:25:55 GMT -5
I kinda like the idea of cast bronze enclosures, but I want a more conventional style. Think bronze LaScalas.
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Post by urbino on Jan 22, 2024 17:28:46 GMT -5
The Maggies have shipped. Should be here later this week, assuming bad weather somewhere doesn’t interfere.
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Post by urbino on Jan 27, 2024 19:20:32 GMT -5
The Maggies have landed, finally. Unboxed, assembled, connected, and running. Trying to figure out placement a little, but also just letting them run in. So far, so good.😊
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 27, 2024 19:46:06 GMT -5
New speakers are always a cause for joy so Urb you better be darn joyful right now.
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Post by urbino on Jan 27, 2024 19:54:50 GMT -5
New speakers are always a cause for joy so Urb you better be darn joyful right now. They are. It’s like rediscovering your whole music collection. I was a little concerned about these for a minute. They weren’t doing anything I knew Maggies were supposed to do. I guess they were just really stiff coming straight out of the box, because they have already opened up a ton. I’m getting soundstage out beyond the edges of the speakers. |
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 27, 2024 20:14:45 GMT -5
Man I am truly green with envy right now and oh so happy for you. Once you get them burned in let me know what the neighbors and the local police think.  |
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Post by urbino on Jan 27, 2024 20:34:27 GMT -5
Man I am truly green with envy right now and oh so happy for you. Once you get them burned in let me know what the neighbors and the local police think. Ha, thanks. Loud isn't really a thing Maggies specialize in. It would take a crapload of amplifier to drive them that loud. I've got 300W/ch going into them and the volume is at about 1:00 for a comfortable, reasonably full sound just here in my living room. |
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 28, 2024 1:06:47 GMT -5
So in theory you have enough amp to drive one but to get the most out of them probably 400 watts independent per side. And no I am not talking about volume we are talking clarity.
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Post by urbino on Jan 28, 2024 1:43:12 GMT -5
So in theory you have enough amp to drive one but to get the most out of them probably 400 watts independent per side. And no I am not talking about volume we are talking clarity. Maggies like a lot of power. They're a 4-ohm speaker to begin with, and then that planar driver just likes a lot of -- well, current more than watts, actually -- to really get moving and do its thing. The amp I'm using is 150 into 8 ohms and doubles that into 4, i.e., it's a high-current design. It drives them really well. It's just that if I tried to crank it to neighbor-disturbing levels, it would run out of steam before it got there. |
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 28, 2024 2:26:04 GMT -5
Not even looking to blast but the Magneplanars which are extremely power-hungry.
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Post by urbino on Jan 28, 2024 2:55:03 GMT -5
Not even looking to blast but the Magneplanars which are extremely power-hungry. They are. Given that it's the biggest criticism of this model, I'm so far surprised at how well they handle the lower frequencies. They're certainly not going to stove your chest in if you pour some Zeppelin or pipe organ music into them, but for most music, in a reasonably sized room, they'd be perfectly fine without a sub. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2024 16:53:35 GMT -5
The Klipsch Jubilee has a rating of 107 dB/watt, but the recommended amplifier power is 1600 watts per channel. You would probably be satisfied with 20 watts per channel.
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Post by urbino on Jan 28, 2024 17:16:41 GMT -5
The Klipsch Jubilee has a rating of 107 dB/watt, but the recommended amplifier power is 1600 watts per channel. You would probably be satisfied with 20 watts per channel. 1600 watts? They think you're hosting a political rally or something? That said, my experience with modern Klipsches is that they overrate their efficiency by a good 6-7 dB. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2024 17:26:37 GMT -5
The Klipsch Jubilee has a rating of 107 dB/watt, but the recommended amplifier power is 1600 watts per channel. You would probably be satisfied with 20 watts per channel. 1600 watts? They think you're hosting a political rally or something? That said, my experience with modern Klipsches is that they overrate their efficiency by a good 6-7 dB. Measuring speaker seems to be an art. According to Stereophile, they over rate them by 2-3 dB. Having lived with the LaScalas for a couple of decades, they blow away any other speakers by a large margin. But sometimes you just want something different. |
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Post by urbino on Jan 28, 2024 19:25:10 GMT -5
1600 watts? They think you're hosting a political rally or something? That said, my experience with modern Klipsches is that they overrate their efficiency by a good 6-7 dB. Measuring speaker seems to be an art. According to Stereophile, they over rate them by 2-3 dB. Having lived with the LaScalas for a couple of decades, they blow away any other speakers by a large margin. But sometimes you just want something different. My experience was only with the Heresies I had. Klipsch rated them 98dB efficient. My Tannoys are rated 92. I could tell no difference in their output. That's just a sample of one pair of speakers, of course. |
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 28, 2024 19:56:02 GMT -5
The Klipsch Jubilee Regular price$17,999 each So as well LaScalas are upper end speakers not the crap they pawn off at worst buy to the consumer putting together surround sound for the TV on a fixed budget. The days of 20watt amps died in the 70s and if you really want to get the sound right you need a amp that has no problem scaling to the proper Hz. So if you drop that much cash on the speakers why even bother hooking them up to your old silver face stereo with a integrated amp or worse your outdated 1980 all in one stack set. YMMV
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Post by urbino on Jan 28, 2024 20:32:21 GMT -5
The Klipsch Jubilee Regular price$17,999 each So as well LaScalas are upper end speakers not the crap they pawn off at worst buy to the consumer putting together surround sound for the TV on a fixed budget. The days of 20watt amps died in the 70s and if you really want to get the sound right you need a amp that has no problem scaling to the proper Hz. So if you drop that much cash on the speakers why even bother hooking them up to your old silver face stereo with a integrated amp or worse your outdated 1980 all in one stack set. YMMV I try to avoid criticizing other people's systems. There are way too many audiophiles like that, already. If somebody's enjoying their music, more power to them. That said, yes, if you're dropping $36 grand on a pair of speakers, and you have enough house to have space for those Jubilees, it does make sense to hook them up to good electronics; you can afford it. OTOH, they made some great sounding electronics in the 60s and 70s, and even the oldest have enough power to drive horn speakers to uncomfortable volumes. A lot of those old Sansui, Pioneer, and Marantz integrateds and receivers are highly sought after, and not just for nostalgia. They can sound really good. You might want to get them re-capped, though. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2024 21:04:23 GMT -5
The Klipsch Jubilee Regular price$17,999 each So as well LaScalas are upper end speakers not the crap they pawn off at worst buy to the consumer putting together surround sound for the TV on a fixed budget. The days of 20watt amps died in the 70s and if you really want to get the sound right you need a amp that has no problem scaling to the proper Hz. So if you drop that much cash on the speakers why even bother hooking them up to your old silver face stereo with a integrated amp or worse your outdated 1980 all in one stack set. YMMV Well, I certainly won't be buying the Jubilees, but I am certain that they sound wonderful. How could they not? There are a lot of very good 20 watt amps that can cost thousands of dollars, such as your headphone amp,which could drive them to a nice level. I had a Luxman 50 watt amp that was very sweet. When you look at the really high end speakers, the Jubilees are a tremendous bargain. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2024 21:11:25 GMT -5
The Klipsch Jubilee Regular price$17,999 each So as well LaScalas are upper end speakers not the crap they pawn off at worst buy to the consumer putting together surround sound for the TV on a fixed budget. The days of 20watt amps died in the 70s and if you really want to get the sound right you need a amp that has no problem scaling to the proper Hz. So if you drop that much cash on the speakers why even bother hooking them up to your old silver face stereo with a integrated amp or worse your outdated 1980 all in one stack set. YMMV I try to avoid criticizing other people's systems. There are way too many audiophiles like that, already. If somebody's enjoying their music, more power to them. That said, yes, if you're dropping $36 grand on a pair of speakers, and you have enough house to have space for those Jubilees, it does make sense to hook them up to good electronics; you can afford it. OTOH, they made some great sounding electronics in the 60s and 70s, and even the oldest have enough power to drive horn speakers to uncomfortable volumes. A lot of those old Sansui, Pioneer, and Marantz integrateds and receivers are highly sought after, and not just for nostalgia. They can sound really good. You might want to get them re-capped, though. I had a Sansui tube receiver that I got for free. I had to replace the bridge rectifier and 4 tubes and it was amazing with my roommates LaScalas. I sold it to him for 50 bucks and he was still using it last I heard. Having lived with them for a few months, I just had to have my own. I drove mine with 4 or 5 different amps over the years. |
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Post by lizardonarock on Jan 29, 2024 8:04:13 GMT -5
There was a time when a became obsessed with Sherwood tube equipment and built up a sizeable collection. The tubes had a sound all of there own but the trade off was a lot of heat from the tubes. The other even bigger problem was just getting the tubes and when you buy 40 year old tubes how many would still be working. Getting the whole thing up and running becomes a labor of love to say the least. Urb brings up a good point about recapping your early solid state electronics then you have a whole new problem finding a person who is able to do the work. So that even when you find the right person then some of the diodes are failed as well. In google type in Sansui recap AU are amplifier models and see for yourself what is involved. noobowsystems.org/backtolife/au-7700/au-7700.html |
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Post by lizardonarock on Feb 3, 2024 9:59:21 GMT -5
Urb asked me on a different thread. How do you like your stack o' Schiit? What is not to like about a 5 watt headphone amp that can drive planer and high ohm headphones and small speakers. As for the DAC it did increase the sound stage in headphones. Magnius amp and Modius DAC. I don't have room in my currant living conditions for tower speakers and large components. 9"L x 6"W small foot print about 3 inches with both components.
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Post by urbino on Feb 3, 2024 16:43:41 GMT -5
Urb asked me on a different thread. How do you like your stack o' Schiit? What is not to like about a 5 watt headphone amp that can drive planer and high ohm headphones and small speakers. As for the DAC it did increase the sound stage in headphones. Magnius amp and Modius DAC. I don't have room in my currant living conditions for tower speakers and large components. 9"L x 6"W small foot print about 3 inches with both components. That's the direction almost everybody's going, these days, so you've got a lot of company. You can get great sound and take up almost no room. I tried to go the headphone way, too, but my ears just can't stand the physical sensation of wearing them. It's like a dog wearing a cone of shame - "Get this off me!!" I tried various over-ears and in-ears. Same results. |
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Post by lizardonarock on Feb 3, 2024 21:18:02 GMT -5
I hear you Urb the most comfortable headphones I have ever worn are my Meze 99 classics. That includes a big pile of Grados, Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic and Koss.
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Post by lizardonarock on Feb 3, 2024 21:42:17 GMT -5
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Post by urbino on Feb 3, 2024 22:18:23 GMT -5
I hear you Urb the most comfortable headphones I have ever worn are my Meze 99 classics. That includes a big pile of Grados, Sennheiser, Beyerdynamic and Koss. For me, Grados were the worst. Best were a pair of Audio-Technicas. Still have those for brief usage. |
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