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Post by atison on Mar 5, 2019 10:32:55 GMT -5
So the majority of my stuff is in ball jars, however, I have a handful of unopened pouches as well as a few that I have opened that didn't make the cut for a jar and I don't want to just throw away (looking at you borkum riff bourbon). Also, I have a huge can of SWRA that I haven't popped open yet and don't want to break up into multiple jars.
I have a nice sized ziplock Tupperware bin that seals airtight (used to be a small tupperdore for cigars) that I have the odds and ends as well as the big can sitting in right now. If I pop the can of SWRA would it be safe sitting in the airtight tupperware for me to dip into and fill a pouch from time to time or is it ball jars or nothing? I would obviously keep the lid on the can but keep the whole can in the tupperware.
Any thoughts. Is it ball jars or bust or will
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Post by Legend Lover on Mar 5, 2019 10:38:10 GMT -5
I see what you're suggesting. I suppose it's better than having the tins our pouches sitting around. I would hate to have some sort of Tupperware taste in my tobacco though, if it didn't work.
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Post by stogiebear on Mar 5, 2019 10:40:21 GMT -5
What I’d be concerned about is whether the topping will bleed over and all your tobacco will smell like Walt*. If I were you I’d go invest in some mason jars, they’re less than a buck each for medium sizes bought by the dozen at a big box store. For the cost of a couple ounces of B&M bulk you can be protecting 2 or 3 pounds of tobacco.
Or, if you’re a peanut butter fan like me, switch to Teddie brand. Run those glass jars through a dishwasher and they make excellent tobacco storage.
*Edit: Smell like Sir Walt’s aro topping. Not saying anybody here smells bad.
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Post by atison on Mar 5, 2019 10:50:33 GMT -5
The tupperware is already cleaned well and "seasoned" as it stored cigars for a few years. It has a beautiful light humidor scent to it. Nothing that would impart into a blend and definitely no plastic smell whatsoever.
Anything that is in there is in a pouch and or can so I doubt they would intermingle too much. Also, nothing in there is overly strong either. Guess my main concern is keeping the moisture consistent and I feel like the sealed container does that.
So I am going to rock this setup for my big can of SWRA and variety of pouches. I will report back if anything unfavorable happens.
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Mar 5, 2019 10:58:13 GMT -5
I think that I would seal each individual pouch and heavy-duty Ziploc bags before I put them into the Tupperware I wouldn't want to take the chance on the tobacco's marrying with one another well in the Tupperware other than that I think you're good to go
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Post by atison on Mar 5, 2019 11:18:33 GMT -5
I think that I would seal each individual pouch and heavy-duty Ziploc bags before I put them into the Tupperware I wouldn't want to take the chance on the tobacco's marrying with one another well in the Tupperware other than that I think you're good to go That sounds like a good compromise.
And anything I just really don't like (again borkhum riff bourbon I am looking at you) will all go into a communal bag to sit together and think about what they have done.
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Post by McWiggins on Mar 5, 2019 11:32:00 GMT -5
It might work and this will be an experiment. Even with heavy duty bags though things will get in and out and the more time passes, the more they will mix. It would be better to use food grade vacuum bags or food grade mylar bags and heat seal them shut.
For me, I use half pint jars I get at Walmart for $8 a case, less if its on sale. They easily hold a pouch or small tin of tobacco. This allows me to take blends I find OK or not so good and store them away for the future. I know they will stay uncontaminated and with either age or my changing taste, they might do better for me. If not, I can easily give it away or trade it to someone who would appreciate that particular blend with a bit of age on it.
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Post by Legend Lover on Mar 5, 2019 11:36:49 GMT -5
Yea, I'd like to see how this works out. Report back in 10 years.
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Post by blackmouth210 on Mar 5, 2019 11:45:57 GMT -5
Ball jars are cheap, reliable, and reusable. Well worth the investment. Tupperware will not give you the same level of air-tightness (is that a word?).
I use a Ball Jar so I don't have to worry about the moisture level of my tobacco....whether I choose to open it every few days, every few months, or every few years.
It's cheap peace of mind.
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Post by atison on Mar 5, 2019 12:33:48 GMT -5
Thanks for all to good replies. Sleep soundly knowing that the majority of my stock is well stored in Ball jars.
I will pick up another case of them the next time I am at the store and get my big tub-o-SWRA and the odds and ends tucked away in them.
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 5, 2019 12:48:37 GMT -5
I think that I would seal each individual pouch and heavy-duty Ziploc bags before I put them into the Tupperware I wouldn't want to take the chance on the tobacco's marrying with one another well in the Tupperware other than that I think you're good to go This!
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Post by sperrytops on Mar 5, 2019 13:18:08 GMT -5
I would just avoid any long term storage in plastic containers or bags. Plastic breaks down and microscopic stuff can get into the tobacco. Least, that's my view.
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Post by Spartacus on Mar 5, 2019 13:47:23 GMT -5
All my open tins and anything I get pouched goes into Ball jars. Esoterica bags I put the whole unopened bag into food grade bags and use a vacuum sealer to close them up. Not sure if that will work. I guess we will see.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 15:13:36 GMT -5
I use 2 of these containers. One is for bulk and has an open top 2 liter bottle of water in it. I periodically top that up and it has been in use for 10 years. A smaller flat one holds some tins and pouches and is good for 6-12 months. Jars are running me out of storage space in my apartment, so these containers help.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Mar 5, 2019 15:57:06 GMT -5
What I’d be concerned about is whether the topping will bleed over and all your tobacco will smell like Walt. If I were you I’d go invest in some mason jars, they’re less than a buck each for medium sizes bought by the dozen at a big box store. For the cost of a couple ounces of B&M bulk you can be protecting 2 or 3 pounds of tobacco. Or, if you’re a peanut butter fan like me, switch to Teddie brand. Run those glass jars through a dishwasher and they make excellent tobacco storage. How would you know how I smell? Should I resent that quote?
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Post by captblack on Mar 5, 2019 16:53:16 GMT -5
Mason jars are cheap, no reason not to use them unless accessibility is an issue.
Some cigar smokers use "tupperdors" for cigar storage. I was never a fan of them myself.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 17:16:06 GMT -5
Have several Traveldor's from when I smoked cigars regularly. Works great to toss in the loose zip locks and tote around.
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Post by robd on Mar 7, 2019 0:57:18 GMT -5
Anything truly airtight is fine.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2019 1:31:43 GMT -5
Flip top jars are the answer for short term storage and easy access.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Mar 7, 2019 6:21:40 GMT -5
Tupperware has to be better than nothing. Different brand, but you get the idea.
It's great for when I absolutely must try a blend and have too many tins already open. I even started bagging my bulk cellar tobacco with it. Another plus is that all the air is sucked out, so your tobacco doesn't have to dry at all like it would in a container with empty space.
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Post by Dramatwist on Mar 7, 2019 9:16:15 GMT -5
This is a perennial question, and not necessarily an easy answer even if you have unlimited supplies of Mason/Ball jars and places to put them.
Certainly any storage option that takes a pouch out of the local atmosphere is a better choice than leaving it laying around in a desk drawer... but I caution myself frequently about becoming overly-concerned about various pouches or small samples of tobacco...
Usually, even if a tobacco is overly moist, I can tell if it's going to be something I'd be interested in a year or so down the road. If not, it goes in the trash.
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Post by atison on Mar 7, 2019 15:18:27 GMT -5
I have run tupperdors for my cigars for years with no problems. A couple bovedas in there and they hold rock solid for 6 months to year without having to recharge them. So I know they are good and air tight. Again, I would never put anything in there that I was overly concerned with, just odd pouches here or there and the big can of SWRA (with its own lid on as well.
Thanks for all the replies. I know its a common topic and the right answer will always be ball jar them up.
I do like the option of the vacuum sealer for larger quantities (LBF for instance) as it could make it easier to then pack away in one of my sealed Tupperware bins.
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