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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 9:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 9:53:11 GMT -5
Well, ASTB already gone in the time it took to post. Pembroke too. Dunbar and Margate still up......
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 9:54:13 GMT -5
All gone in less than five minutes. Sorry, nothing to see here folks.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Mar 8, 2019 9:57:42 GMT -5
Haha Incredible. How many products can boast this level of popularity?
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Post by captblack on Mar 8, 2019 10:31:24 GMT -5
Haha Incredible. How many products can boast this level of popularity? I still dont get it. Esoterica blends are very good, and I may have jumped on some Penzance or Stonehaven, but even at that there are other blends that are just as good and readily available. I would take Black Frigate, Pirate Kake or Gaslight ahead of just about any Esoterica blend. Interestingly, there is a B&M near me that almost always has Esoterica blends in stock, but they are in a big city that has a 2.00/oz pipe tobacco tax. So that 44.00 8oz bag quickly ends up being 60.00. Thats a lot of bulk tobacco (but I have bought a couple anyway). |
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Post by sablebrush52 on Mar 8, 2019 10:55:17 GMT -5
Haha Incredible. How many products can boast this level of popularity? I still dont get it. Esoterica blends are very good, and I may have jumped on some Penzance or Stonehaven, but even at that there are other blends that are just as good and readily available. I would take Black Frigate, Pirate Kake or Gaslight ahead of just about any Esoterica blend. Interestingly, there is a B&M near me that almost always has Esoterica blends in stock, but they are in a big city that has a 2.00/oz pipe tobacco tax. So that 44.00 8oz bag quickly ends up being 60.00. Thats a lot of bulk tobacco (but I have bought a couple anyway). There's nothing logical about it. It has to do with the Psychopathy of Scarcity. People want what is hard to get, the more so if it confers some sense of accomplishment or status whether real or not. So ingrained is the Esoterica mystique that some would sell their kids to organ harvesters to procure a tin of Penzance or Stonehaven. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Mar 8, 2019 11:12:15 GMT -5
I still dont get it. Esoterica blends are very good, and I may have jumped on some Penzance or Stonehaven, but even at that there are other blends that are just as good and readily available. I would take Black Frigate, Pirate Kake or Gaslight ahead of just about any Esoterica blend. Interestingly, there is a B&M near me that almost always has Esoterica blends in stock, but they are in a big city that has a 2.00/oz pipe tobacco tax. So that 44.00 8oz bag quickly ends up being 60.00. Thats a lot of bulk tobacco (but I have bought a couple anyway). There's nothing logical about it. It has to do with the Psychopathy of Scarcity. People want what is hard to get, the more so if it confers some sense of accomplishment or status whether real or not. So ingrained is the Esoterica mystique that some would sell their kids to organ harvesters to procure a tin of Penzance or Stonehaven. I agree. I do love So To Bed and Dunbar. I may sell the bags of ASTB as I found a readily availabile bulk that really hits the same spot. I do wanna try Penzance at least once. See for myself if the emperor is infact wearing clothes. It's at the point where I'm afraid to mention blends I love. I don't wanna accidentally trigger a stampede and make something I enjoy scarce. |
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Post by captblack on Mar 8, 2019 11:26:32 GMT -5
There's nothing logical about it. It has to do with the Psychopathy of Scarcity. People want what is hard to get, the more so if it confers some sense of accomplishment or status whether real or not. So ingrained is the Esoterica mystique that some would sell their kids to organ harvesters to procure a tin of Penzance or Stonehaven. I agree. I do love So To Bed and Dunbar. I may sell the bags of ASTB as I found a readily availabile bulk that really hits the same spot. I do wanna try Penzance at least once. See for myself if the emperor is infact wearing clothes. It's at the point where I'm afraid to mention blends I love. I don't wanna accidentally trigger a stampede and make something I enjoy scarce. If I had to pick two that I like, its ASTB and Pembroke. Margate is up there, but at its heart it is an English blend and there are several awesome English blends to choose from in the marketplace. Penzance is a Balkan blend and while it is very good, a tin of Balkan Sobraine isnt a whole lot different. At MSRP I will happily pick up a couple tins of Esoterica. But at inflated flipper prices, never. |
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Post by sperrytops on Mar 8, 2019 11:28:40 GMT -5
Yup, adios.
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Post by Spartacus on Mar 8, 2019 11:29:19 GMT -5
There's nothing logical about it. It has to do with the Psychopathy of Scarcity. People want what is hard to get, the more so if it confers some sense of accomplishment or status whether real or not. So ingrained is the Esoterica mystique that some would sell their kids to organ harvesters to procure a tin of Penzance or Stonehaven. I agree. I do love So To Bed and Dunbar. I may sell the bags of ASTB as I found a readily availabile bulk that really hits the same spot. I do wanna try Penzance at least once. See for myself if the emperor is infact wearing clothes. It's at the point where I'm afraid to mention blends I love. I don't wanna accidentally trigger a stampede and make something I enjoy scarce. I have tried most all of the Esoterica blends. I love some of them and need to add some more to my cellar but not to the point of chasing them or paying more than standard retail. There are a lot of tobaccos out there I enjoy smoking and if I never got to smoke any more Esoterica after what I have stored is used up I won't shed a tear. |
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Post by sperrytops on Mar 8, 2019 11:30:03 GMT -5
I still dont get it. Esoterica blends are very good, and I may have jumped on some Penzance or Stonehaven, but even at that there are other blends that are just as good and readily available. I would take Black Frigate, Pirate Kake or Gaslight ahead of just about any Esoterica blend. Interestingly, there is a B&M near me that almost always has Esoterica blends in stock, but they are in a big city that has a 2.00/oz pipe tobacco tax. So that 44.00 8oz bag quickly ends up being 60.00. Thats a lot of bulk tobacco (but I have bought a couple anyway). There's nothing logical about it. It has to do with the Psychopathy of Scarcity. People want what is hard to get, the more so if it confers some sense of accomplishment or status whether real or not. So ingrained is the Esoterica mystique that some would sell their kids to organ harvesters to procure a tin of Penzance or Stonehaven. We're like Pavlov's dogs. As soon as it is sensed by one of us, the herd attacks. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Mar 8, 2019 11:43:03 GMT -5
There's nothing logical about it. It has to do with the Psychopathy of Scarcity. People want what is hard to get, the more so if it confers some sense of accomplishment or status whether real or not. So ingrained is the Esoterica mystique that some would sell their kids to organ harvesters to procure a tin of Penzance or Stonehaven. We're like Pavlov's dogs. As soon as it is sensed by one of us, the herd attacks. Hahaha Pipe Lemmings chasing a tin of Penzance as it rolls over a cliff. |
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Post by atison on Mar 8, 2019 11:47:10 GMT -5
Its like Pappy Van Winkle. I have never bought into the hype and will never spend that kind of money on it, mainly because I don't think it tastes that special.
On a similar note, I ran across a bottle of Weller Antique 107 a few months back and grabbed one knowing people are ranting about it (supposed to be the same recipe). Ran through the bottle really quick as it is quite a good bourbon for a steal at $28. Decided to get to my local package store yesterday to pick up another bottle when their delivery arrived. Wound up waiting an hour in line to get it (sunk cost fallacy in play there) and now it is up to $32.
Apparently it is now one of the new hyped bourbons and in limited supply. So I will enjoy this last bottle of mine and erase it from my list as I will not wait in line for it nor pay inflated prices.
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Post by sperrytops on Mar 8, 2019 12:19:42 GMT -5
Its like Pappy Van Winkle. I have never bought into the hype and will never spend that kind of money on it, mainly because I don't think it tastes that special. On a similar note, I ran across a bottle of Weller Antique 107 a few months back and grabbed one knowing people are ranting about it (supposed to be the same recipe). Ran through the bottle really quick as it is quite a good bourbon for a steal at $28. Decided to get to my local package store yesterday to pick up another bottle when their delivery arrived. Wound up waiting an hour in line to get it (sunk cost fallacy in play there) and now it is up to $32. Apparently it is now one of the new hyped bourbons and in limited supply. So I will enjoy this last bottle of mine and erase it from my list as I will not wait in line for it nor pay inflated prices. I hear you, Andy. I read a book on Bourbon prices and for a long time pricing was pretty stable. Then the same speculators that drove up prices on Single Malt Scotch started speculating in Bourbon and now prices are rising rapidly. It's kind of a sin. As for the Pappy stuff, I only just heard about a year or two ago. F ind it completely hard to believe. |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Mar 8, 2019 12:27:36 GMT -5
Its like Pappy Van Winkle. I have never bought into the hype and will never spend that kind of money on it, mainly because I don't think it tastes that special. I have a friend trying to get one of those reserve bottles now. It's good to have some wealthy friends. I will certainly enjoy tasting it, I just don't see me needing a bottle. I think that things in that price range are really just for people who make so much money, they get bored spending so little. In my buddies' case, (I don't want to be mean,) but he doesn't really even have the palate. He's always gonna be the Crown and Coke guy he's always been, but he enjoys the pomp of the thing. He loves that he can sip on a bottle of booze that cost what he used to make a week when we were in college- And I can dig that. |
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Post by sperrytops on Mar 8, 2019 12:30:44 GMT -5
Its like Pappy Van Winkle. I have never bought into the hype and will never spend that kind of money on it, mainly because I don't think it tastes that special. I have a friend trying to get one of those reserve bottles now. It's good to have some wealthy friends. I will certainly enjoy tasting it, I just don't see me needing a bottle. I think that things in that price range are really just for people who make so much money, they get bored spending so little. In my buddies' case, (I don't want to be mean,) but he doesn't really even have the palate. He's always gonna be the Crown and Coke guy he's always been, but he enjoys the pomp of the thing. He loves that he can sip on a bottle of booze that cost what he used to make a week when we were in college- And I can dig that. I think you just defined someone who participates in speculation. lol |
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Post by PhantomWolf on Mar 8, 2019 12:41:22 GMT -5
I think you just defined someone who participates in speculation. lol He may at some point. His money goes to real estate currently. He also buys valuable comic books and has them graded and framed. He loves to tell you what they're worth, but hasn't read a single one... Haha |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 13:20:10 GMT -5
For a while it seemed like they were becoming more available, and I saw tins of Pembroke and Margate sitting around online shops for a week. Maybe people were just distracted for a while by the McClelland closure and HH Vintage Syrian hoarding. Still no Dunhill panic, though....
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Post by Spartacus on Mar 8, 2019 13:43:05 GMT -5
For a while it seemed like they were becoming more available, and I saw tins of Pembroke and Margate sitting around online shops for a week. Maybe people were just distracted for a while by the McClelland closure and HH Vintage Syrian hoarding. Still no Dunhill panic, though.... You look at the prices people are paying on eBay. $175 for an 8oz bag of Penzance. I'm sure speculators are seeing that and buying all they can with the hopes of flipping it for a nice profit. As long as people want to pay those prices it will be hard to get any. With some many good tobacco's out there I don't need Esoterica. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Mar 8, 2019 13:50:48 GMT -5
Arango Balkan Supreme and Sutliff Crumble Kake English #1 were more than enough to unshackle the Esoterica Penzance chains from around my wrists.
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Post by sperrytops on Mar 8, 2019 14:00:22 GMT -5
Arango Balkan Supreme and Sutliff Crumble Kake English #1 were more than enough to unshackle the Esoterica Penzance chains from around my wrists. Plum Pudding SR is better than Penzance, in my opinion. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Mar 8, 2019 15:23:23 GMT -5
Arango Balkan Supreme and Sutliff Crumble Kake English #1 were more than enough to unshackle the Esoterica Penzance chains from around my wrists. Plum Pudding SR is better than Penzance, in my opinion. ...seems to be sold out most of the time... not going into that wormhole again... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2019 22:36:09 GMT -5
Arango Balkan Supreme and Sutliff Crumble Kake English #1 were more than enough to unshackle the Esoterica Penzance chains from around my wrists. +1 |
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Post by gav on Mar 11, 2019 22:40:12 GMT -5
I think they just age the baccy properly and limit the supply.
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Post by kingchuck109 on Mar 12, 2019 7:22:57 GMT -5
No Pen that is the only one am interested in.
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Post by cwpiperman on Mar 13, 2019 2:07:51 GMT -5
Happened to hit SPC when a shipment of Margate came in. Picked up a tin for $14 bucks. Gonna try it in about a year.
In the meantime, Arango Balkan Supreme, Gaslight, Plum Pudding SR, Quiet Nights, Black Frigate and Pirate Kake are very, very nice.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 13, 2019 8:39:59 GMT -5
I received a note on the pipe club facebook page from a contact that Esoterica Pembroke was in stock at Mars cigar, I checked and yes it was...texted two guys in the pipe club...checked back, poof it was gone.
Them unicorns do not hang out very long....if I was seriously looking for it, I would contact Arango cigar, ask for a list of retailers in my state and cultivate a relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2019 11:29:05 GMT -5
My local B&M should be getting pembroke, margate, penzance and stonehaven very soon. Allocation of penzance and stonehaven is small so I suspect that will be gone quickly. Also getting in GH Best Brown #2 bulk. Looking forward to this shipment.
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