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Post by sjmiller on Dec 10, 2016 20:24:35 GMT -5
I was just checking the "What Are You Smoking" thread, which I do several times a day for a specific reason and began to wonder if I am the only one that does it for this reason. There a couple of new C&D Cellar Series blends that I have been wanting to try but haven't been able to find out when they will hit the shelves.
I have found that the best way to find out a new release is coming, if there is no news elsewhere, is to keep an eye on what JimInks is smoking. He was smoking the most recent Cellar Series release a couple of weeks before it landed on the shelves.
So does anyone else keep on eye on Jim for the same reason?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2016 21:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by poppasmurfjr on Dec 11, 2016 4:33:59 GMT -5
Well since you have asked, no I do not wait for his postings or his reviews. I just don't see and/or understand how folks can honestly take any of his mentions/reviews with credibility. Just look at the thread you mentioned and look at just December 1st. He posted 18 different times and mentioned smoking and finishing of smoking bowls of I think about 15 various blends. All within 24 hours and some within minutes of each other. Also with the amount of reviews he does post I end up ignoring them wondering just honest of a review they can be knowing the amount of and the variations of tobaccos he posts that he is smoking in a day. That along with the reviews of his I have read almost all read like advertisement copy for the blend that a blender/company would use to help generate sales.
Now in all seriousness if your waiting for anything in regards to "new" information on any "new" releases in the Cellar Series I think you might be out of luck on that. The entire Cellar Series is on the market already and since August 8th 2016 has already passed I don't think anymore "new" blends will be released so if your looking to try one that might call to you order it and give it a try unless you really need what IMHO is a jaded review/mentioning of the blend. Currently all of the blends except 1 is in stock and available at SP.com so go forth and order and let us know what you think of the blends.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 5:43:41 GMT -5
I primarily read Jim's posts because they are some of the most insightful to be found on the Internet and his professionalism sets the standard for all others.
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Post by Motto on Dec 11, 2016 7:00:03 GMT -5
Well since you have asked, no I do not wait for his postings or his reviews. I just don't see and/or understand how folks can honestly take any of his mentions/reviews with credibility. Just look at the thread you mentioned and look at just December 1st. He posted 18 different times and mentioned smoking and finishing of smoking bowls of I think about 15 various blends. All within 24 hours and some within minutes of each other. Also with the amount of reviews he does post I end up ignoring them wondering just honest of a review they can be knowing the amount of and the variations of tobaccos he posts that he is smoking in a day. That along with the reviews of his I have read almost all read like advertisement copy for the blend that a blender/company would use to help generate sales. Now in all seriousness if your waiting for anything in regards to "new" information on any "new" releases in the Cellar Series I think you might be out of luck on that. The entire Cellar Series is on the market already and since August 8th 2016 has already passed I don't think anymore "new" blends will be released so if your looking to try one that might call to you order it and give it a try unless you really need what IMHO is a jaded review/mentioning of the blend. Currently all of the blends except 1 is in stock and available at SP.com so go forth and order and let us know what you think of the blends. G' day poppa, a serious smoking gentleman , has lungs like buffalo leather, & a thick hide in the land of the free & the buffalo ,and the manners to ignore criticism, but it takes all sorts sir. Skilful criticism like poetry it is an art , that comes from virtue not rudeness . But some people play the game & win the prize, & some people throw mud, but we all go through periods of doubt, you learn easy or you learn hard in this world, have a good day sir. PS what tobaccos do you favour Poppa , may I ask ? |
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Post by Lady Margaret on Dec 11, 2016 7:56:31 GMT -5
Only to make sure he's still breathing.
if he's breathing, he's puffin'
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Post by sjmiller on Dec 11, 2016 8:26:02 GMT -5
Several people I know of are not fans of Jim's reviews but I am not one of them. I have found them to be quite dependable and accurate. I appreciate the effort he puts into trying to helping out his briar brothers. People are entitled to their opinion so if you don't care for Jim's work, that's your right.
If I valued your opinion at all I may have been upset at your attempt to belittle me regarding my post. I don't however and so I will pass on a bit of information to help you keep from embarrassing yourself on the topic of "new" pipe blends.
In order to beat the deadline of August 8, a number of companies made new blends available for purchase at club meetings or pipe shows on a limited basis. By doing this, the blends were available to consumers and met the FDA requirements in regards to the deadline. Many of these blends have yet to make it to store shelves. Included among these blends are three C&D Cellar Series blends. The blends are King Cake, Seersucker, and Speakeasy. You will find them listed on TobaccoReviews.com. The listing of an original release date does not mean they were available in stores, either online or the real world, but rather that some part of the public was given a chance to purchase it.
In closing, I believe you might want to brush up on the writings of Mark Twain.
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Post by poppasmurfjr on Dec 11, 2016 10:43:23 GMT -5
The listing of an original release date does not mean they were available in stores, either online or the real world, but rather that some part of the public was given a chance to purchase it. I do not mean to disagree with you but I think your mistaken on your above thoughts. The FDA mandate was that by Aug 8th any new/future blend had to be available for sale in each and every size of packaging that it would be offered in with a verifiable paper trail of invoices/receipts from manufacture to distributor to retailer/e-tailer and to the public had to be in place for each new blend and or packaging. This is one of the reasons why there were hundreds of extremely limited new offerings/listings/packagings available from just Lane Ltd in the month or so before August 8th. As an example Lane 1Q was packaged distributed and sold in an extremely small limited quantities in, if I remember correctly a 1oz, 2oz, 4oz, 8oz and 16oz bags along with a 50gm tin just so that a verifiable paper trail could be established for each packaging. Availability at a pipe club and/or a pipe show before Aug 8th was most likely and probably as sample offerings to try a new blend which as part of the new FDA mandates is now illegal. Per the new FDA mandates manufactures/distributors/retailers are no longer by law allowed to even give you a sample bowl of anything. No more freebie samples at all. Look for King Cake (which did hit the market before Aug 8th) to be available on most likely SP.coms Thursday update (Dec 15th) along with possibly a few other e-tailers late this week but Seersucker(?) and Speakeasy(?) I don't know if you will ever see. They are not even listed as blends on C&D's (manufacture) or LDG's (distributor) websites. I think, but not 100% positive that those 2 blends might not have made the paper trail deadline of Aug 8th. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 11:08:15 GMT -5
I read a lot if people's reviews, including Jim's. I have found some tobaccos I enjoy quite a bit, that way. Most of what I enjoy smoking has been found through reading reviews and looking at composite scores on Tobacco Reviews and other sites and then buying a tin. Everyone's tastes are so individual that any review or score is just a starting point when considering blends. Sometimes an old tried and true blend with high reviews and great praise just doesn't work for me, but the knowledge gained in the exploration is worth it. Keep the reviews coming Jim, I enjoy reading them.
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Post by sjmiller on Dec 11, 2016 12:17:29 GMT -5
I have spoken to individuals who purchased blends at pipe clubs and shows that were not on the shelves by August 8. One such example would be D&R Blenders Bench now available at Cup O Joe's. Additionally there were NO specific instructions regarding what kind of receipt was necessary to prove that it had been for sale to the public prior to the deadline. There was no specification that sales to the public had to take place in stores or how much had to be available.
For now all we can do is wait to see who is right. Speakeasy and Seersucker as well as D&R's Raccon blends will be on the shelves eventually and under the current rules.
By the way, the Cellar Series blend Vieux Carre hit the store shelves for the first time on Nov 21 of this year.
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Post by poppasmurfjr on Dec 11, 2016 13:10:59 GMT -5
By the way, the Cellar Series blend Vieux Carre hit the store shelves for the first time on Nov 21 of this year. No, it was not the first time it was on store shelves. You might want to check out, smokingpipes-com.tumblr.com/post/153477161466/a-traditional-english-flake-with-a-flavor-every Note the date of that announcement which was Nov 21st and also note how it says "back on shelves." Also to help substantiate the point of it being "back on shelves" note that the website for C&D (manufacture), LDG (distributor) and SP.com (e-tailer) all say the blend was released in July 2016 so that would explain the Nov 21st announcement saying "back on shelves." Vieux Carré was one of those blends that was rushed to market in a very small limited available quantity before Aug 8th so they had that paper trail. At this point it is the beating of a dying horse and you seem to be far more knowing and informed than myself. I will admit that I do not know every detail of it all so I will bow to your expertise. Sure hope the horse survives, Long Live the Horse! |
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Post by sparks on Dec 11, 2016 21:09:08 GMT -5
Well since you have asked, no I do not wait for his postings or his reviews. I just don't see and/or understand how folks can honestly take any of his mentions/reviews with credibility. Just look at the thread you mentioned and look at just December 1st. He posted 18 different times and mentioned smoking and finishing of smoking bowls of I think about 15 various blends. All within 24 hours and some within minutes of each other. Also with the amount of reviews he does post I end up ignoring them wondering just honest of a review they can be knowing the amount of and the variations of tobaccos he posts that he is smoking in a day. That along with the reviews of his I have read almost all read like advertisement copy for the blend that a blender/company would use to help generate sales. Poppa, for the moment, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. It would be good for you to know that Jim is a valued member here, and while I encourage people to have their own opinions, I do not encourage them to share them when it is berating another member. So, I would advise you to leave out the ad hominem opinions in the future, otherwise, you can find another place to call home. |
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Post by Baboo on Dec 11, 2016 21:52:10 GMT -5
Well since you have asked, no I do not wait for his postings or his reviews. I just don't see and/or understand how folks can honestly take any of his mentions/reviews with credibility. Just look at the thread you mentioned and look at just December 1st. He posted 18 different times and mentioned smoking and finishing of smoking bowls of I think about 15 various blends. All within 24 hours and some within minutes of each other. Also with the amount of reviews he does post I end up ignoring them wondering just honest of a review they can be knowing the amount of and the variations of tobaccos he posts that he is smoking in a day. That along with the reviews of his I have read almost all read like advertisement copy for the blend that a blender/company would use to help generate sales. Poppa, for the moment, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. It would be good for you to know that Jim is a valued member here, and while I encourage people to have their own opinions, I do not encourage them to share them when it is berating another member. So, I would advise you to leave out the ad hominem opinions in the future, otherwise, you can find another place to call home. Bravo☆ |
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Post by antb on Dec 12, 2016 2:17:54 GMT -5
Dear Poppa, I genuinely smoke 12 to 15 bowls a day. Nothing strange about Jim. BTW I follow him closely....just to see what Suzy and Molly is up to  |
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Post by daveinlax on Dec 12, 2016 2:25:25 GMT -5
I never read the what are you smoking threads, I don't pay any attention to reviews and I applaud anyone who takes the time to write one but I know full well we are a small world and there is some brown nosing that goes into reviews. Back in the day there was a long time reviewer that was a joke in the hobby because he never disliked any tobacco. He would have found the good points in a bag of Labradorian without saying it smelled like shite. I also know a well known scribe who was asked to review a mixture by a then startup. He wrote his impressions and was never spoken to again by the blender. I'm a one trick pony but for my taste I can tell you by the blender or by the description if I would ever remotely give a blend a try.  |
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Post by Baboo on Dec 12, 2016 16:23:05 GMT -5
Well since you have asked, no I do not wait for his postings or his reviews. I just don't see and/or understand how folks can honestly take any of his mentions/reviews with credibility. Just look at the thread you mentioned and look at just December 1st. He posted 18 different times and mentioned smoking and finishing of smoking bowls of I think about 15 various blends. All within 24 hours and some within minutes of each other. Also with the amount of reviews he does post I end up ignoring them wondering just honest of a review they can be knowing the amount of and the variations of tobaccos he posts that he is smoking in a day. That along with the reviews of his I have read almost all read like advertisement copy for the blend that a blender/company would use to help generate sales. Now in all seriousness if your waiting for anything in regards to "new" information on any "new" releases in the Cellar Series I think you might be out of luck on that. The entire Cellar Series is on the market already and since August 8th 2016 has already passed I don't think anymore "new" blends will be released so if your looking to try one that might call to you order it and give it a try unless you really need what IMHO is a jaded review/mentioning of the blend. Currently all of the blends except 1 is in stock and available at SP.com so go forth and order and let us know what you think of the blends. I have always found Jim's reviews to be most objective and kiss-arse neutral. If you want flavor profile reviews with none of the effusive emotional taints, just look up Jim's reviews... many of which are short of four stars. He likes what he likes... who's to say different. When I look to add to my cellar with a particular nuance, I look to Jim's palette to guide me. 100000% trustworthy!!! |
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