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Post by jeffd on Mar 22, 2019 12:55:01 GMT -5
I have been more or less successfully battling diabetes for the past almost ten years. When i began I would test my blood sugar before and after just about anything. Including smoking of course. Smoking did not to make a difference with me. I have since then come across some papers that correlate smoking with increased blood sugar. The effect is noticed in those without diabetes but is pronounced in those with Type II. The mechanism seems to be that nicotine increases the ineffectiveness of insulin. Fine print: cigarettes only in the testing. No glycemic effect in those who only tasted the smoke and didn't inhale their cigarettes. My advice: what in the hell are you listening to me for? Get your own information and consult those you respect and make up your own mind.  |
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Post by Legend Lover on Mar 22, 2019 13:10:32 GMT -5
I'm not battling diabetes at the minute, but I may be in the future.
It looks like all studies pertaining to smoking is all about the cigarettes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 13:38:14 GMT -5
VA does an annual blood work on me and there are no diabetes issues...yet.
I can pass along that my step-father of over 40 years who was a licensed physician told me all legal stimulants including nicotine, caffeine and alcohol restrict blood flow to the vital organs. Not sure about THC which is semi-legal now?
In my completely unqualified opinion, I can't envision the combination of smoking and diabetes as a positive.
I'm height/weight proportional which appears to have somewhat of a greater impact with diabetes but isn't always a true indicator.
It's not like if we quit smoking we'll all live forever. We're all going to go at some point, judge the risks and take our chances.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 14:34:19 GMT -5
Don’t inhale, I never have before, I never smoked cigarettes. I know, a certain amount still is absorbed orally so much more if you inhale.
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Mar 22, 2019 14:42:24 GMT -5
Nothing with me is stable.. One day BP is a problem, next its not. One day my heart rate is a problem, next its not. One day my arrhythmia is a problem, the next its not. This makes planning anything in life pretty difficult.
Diabetes is a terrible, incurable disease right now. However, the good news is, it seems to be much more manageable for people these days than it did when I was coming up. I remember my pathology professor telling us that diabetes is a disease of the smaller blood vessels. This was a long time ago, and I can't remember the exact details of the lecture. This makes me think, if you are doing something that causes a decreased amount of oxygen to go into your blood, that would cause damage over time to the smaller vasculature in your body. I'm not a doctor, but from what I understand, a lot of the really devastating effects from diabetes are things such as the peripheral neuropathy and necrosis of tissue in places like the toes and extremities of the body. So you would want to avoid activities that could possibly decrease the amount of oxygen that goes into your bloody/body, especially if you are afflicted with diabetes.
The good news about pipe smoking is that it seems to be "less bad" than cigarette or even cigar smoking. The vast majority of us do not inhale. If you do inhale, it might be wise to cut that out. Having said all of this, again, I am not a doctor. I am just a guy who took some medical classes a really long time ago.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 14:50:04 GMT -5
The good news about pipe smoking is that it seems to be "less bad" than cigarette or even cigar smoking. The vast majority of us do not inhale. VA and health insurance companies treat me like a two pack a day smoker - Apparently they didn't get the memo? |
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Post by puffy on Mar 22, 2019 14:51:36 GMT -5
When a study comes out I always want to know who funded it and how reliable are those who conducted it.
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Post by Dramatwist on Mar 22, 2019 14:51:54 GMT -5
I'll be dead before I have to worry about diabetes. Sympathy for those of you who have to deal with it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 14:54:11 GMT -5
I'll be dead before I have to worry about diabetes. Can't give that one a like.  |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Mar 22, 2019 15:05:54 GMT -5
When a study comes out I always want to know who funded it and how reliable are those who conducted it. ^^^That is my take on all of the studies. |
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Post by jeffd on Mar 22, 2019 15:08:40 GMT -5
I have successfully avoid all side effects, neuropothay etc. To me its just a number I measure and keep track of.
The goal, as I understand it, is to postpone all side effect till after I die of something else.
If I had to I would quit smoking, or coffee, or what ever, if it aggravated my diabetes, but I haven't seen the evidence, either in the research, or in my own measurement.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2019 15:26:24 GMT -5
The good news about pipe smoking is that it seems to be "less bad" than cigarette or even cigar smoking. The vast majority of us do not inhale. VA and health insurance companies treat me like a two pack a day smoker - Apparently they didn't get the memo? Doctors and health care plans don’t care if you inhale, whether it’s cigarettes, cigars or a pipe......your checked off as a smoker whatever you smoke!!! |
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Post by instymp on Mar 22, 2019 16:42:05 GMT -5
hard to die healthy now-a-days.
Best to all that have conditions though!!
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Post by slowroll on Mar 22, 2019 17:57:37 GMT -5
If we all give the things we like, we'll be pretty PO'd someday lying in bed dying from nothing.
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Post by pappyjoe on Mar 22, 2019 18:08:38 GMT -5
I developed Type II after a car accident messed up my back in 1997. Found out not being able to pursue things like playing racquetball and other active sports can be a factor. Mine has been well controlled for 19 years now according to my Doctor who knows I smoke a pipe. He hasn’t told me to stop. My A1C was 6.1 and my BP was 121/80 at my last check up.
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Post by jeffd on Mar 22, 2019 23:37:44 GMT -5
If we all give the things we like, we'll be pretty PO'd someday lying in bed dying from nothing. Yea makin a damn handsome corpse. |
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