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Post by puritana on Mar 31, 2019 21:20:46 GMT -5
I've never been to Disney, but I can understand the ban, especially cigarettes.
It would be nice if places like this offered ventilated smoking lounges...it seems like it should even make money, but then you got the cigarette smokers to deal with.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 31, 2019 21:30:19 GMT -5
I've never been to Disney, but I can understand the ban, especially cigarettes. It would be nice if places like this offered ventilated smoking lounges...it seems like it should even make money, but then you got the cigarette smokers to deal with. Sadly though..you ban cigarettes, it gives license to ban any tobacco product....not a big fan of cancer sticks, but passive smoke doesn't cause cancer either....kind of like saying alcohol breath causes alcoholism. |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Mar 31, 2019 21:34:24 GMT -5
 I'll be a naysayer, smell the diesel fumes some rode on bus to go to Disney world, hey let's ban buses, stop over to McDonalds and get a Big Mac, clog your arterys , let's ban Big Macs, stop wars, that way we won't send our young men like I was to be shot maimed or die. Life kills you, and the Life police piss me off, always banning other people's crap not theirs. Live and let Live is my motto, too many people minding my business. Apologies beforehand fellows.
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Post by blackmouth210 on Mar 31, 2019 22:20:05 GMT -5
I never complain about a business establishing no-smoking rules on their own property because I damn well wouldn't accept others telling me how to set rules on my own property.
Everything I want to be allowed on my property is. Anything I don't want being done on my property isn't.
That's how I like it. Visitors can abide by my rules or not come visit at all. My property, my rules.
So I accept that that's how others will run their own property, whether personal or business.
I either visit or I don't. But, it's silly to complain. Their property, their rules.
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Post by Dramatwist on Mar 31, 2019 22:34:26 GMT -5
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Post by Stearmandriver on Mar 31, 2019 22:35:10 GMT -5
Well I agree about the life police... I want the freedom to do as I like. I just figure, if I get that freedom, so should others... and if folks want to enjoy an expensive vacation without smelling tobacco smoke (even if you want to ignore the health aspects, many folks simply find it distasteful)... I guess that seems fair to me. Tell me what to do on my own property? Now that's a whole different thing...
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Post by Cramptholomew on Mar 31, 2019 22:44:14 GMT -5
I totally agree about, "their property, their rules". I just don't want to go to Disney World. The very idea is dreadful to me.
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Post by trailboss on Mar 31, 2019 22:47:53 GMT -5
I don't disagree that a publicly traded company doesn't have the right to implement their own policies, but in a free society I also have the right to say that I have no desire to spend my money to support them. I have no problem with fellow pipe smokers that desire to support companies like this. I think that the junk food that Disney peddles to pre-diabetic children has much more of a risk...sugars, transfats, etc.... but I don't have a problem with them legally consumable products either.  They should get rid of alcoholic drinks...they pose far more of a problem to children of alcoholics than a pipe smoker ever does... www.eater.com/2015/8/26/9173931/best-drinks-cocktails-disney-worldAfter all, it is for the children...right? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 4:14:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade the Disney memories my kids and I have for the world. My wife and I took them several years back and they still talk about it with great/happy remembrances. My wife and I took our kids to Disneyworld several times and on a Disney Cruise twice. I wouldn't trade those memories for anything. |
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Post by kbareit on Apr 1, 2019 4:48:28 GMT -5
If you want roller coasters check out Cedar Point in Ohio. Loved it there. I'll second this. I've had a season pass for many years but this is the first year I didn't renew because my back and neck can't take it anymore. As far as Disney is concerned I don't care that they banned smoking because I decided the last time I was there it would be the last time. Just a filthy overpriced hole is all it is. My kids hated it. Universal I will go back to even if they ban smoking. It's affordable and if you want to get something to eat you don't have to give up your first born. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 8:01:34 GMT -5
The problem with anti smoking rules or any rules is it sets a precedent to just keep chipping away. Last I read 18% of the population still smokes so lets ostracize 1/5 of the population because of what they enjoy. These little rules don't effect you until they do life should be about what you like as long as it is legal.
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 1, 2019 8:11:57 GMT -5
Sean may have a point here, especially for a place that charges over $100.00 a day to be there. The last time I was at Disneyland, the smoking sections were few and far between and well off the path or atmosphere of children and others who object.
"Nanny-ism" is becoming rampant. When I was a child, we didn't have seat belts in cars. We survived. We had Grandads and Uncles who smoked pipes and/or cigarettes in their homes when we visited. We survived. We played in the dirt and didn't wash our hands afterwards. We survived.
Things have changed.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 8:20:30 GMT -5
Sure did and we never got sick or took anti biotics. We were careful cause home first aid was painful.
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 1, 2019 9:47:13 GMT -5
Sean may have a point here, especially for a place that charges over $100.00 a day to be there. The last time I was at Disneyland, the smoking sections were few and far between and well off the path or atmosphere of children and others who object. "Nanny-ism" is becoming rampant. When I was a child, we didn't have seat belts in cars. We survived. We had Grandads and Uncles who smoked pipes and/or cigarettes in their homes when we visited. We survived. We played in the dirt and didn't wash our hands afterwards. We survived. Things have changed. Things have changed indeed...and are changing. Soon there will be a rollercoaster ban in theme parks as the increase in adrenaline can be dangerous to your heart. |
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Post by trailboss on Apr 1, 2019 21:31:51 GMT -5
I appreciate the attitude here as expressed....
Some of us may have different opinions, I agree that a business has the right to see policies as they see fit for their enterprise, but I don't have to agree with it...just my point of view.
I posted the same article and opening thread on the Facebook page of The Gentleman's Pipe Smoking Society, and was pretty quickly called an "asswipe" in an ad hominem attack...and people that identify as pipe smokers saying that at least the children are receiving protection from pipe smokers.
All I will use that page for from this point on is to get the word out on our pipe club meetings...I have thick hide, but I find it funny that these internet Rambo's project their own persona on those they criticize.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2019 21:42:22 GMT -5
I think your a bully Charlie so let me push you around and show you how civil folks do it.  |
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Post by trailboss on Apr 1, 2019 21:52:43 GMT -5
I think your a bully Charlie so let me push you around and show you how civil folks do it. I just kind of wonder if anti-smoking posers are embedded at some sites...it certainly would not surprise me. I have pretty thick skin from these boys that probably sit in mom's basement in their underwear as they carry out their chairborne ranger tactics. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Apr 2, 2019 3:10:23 GMT -5
I think your a bully Charlie so let me push you around and show you how civil folks do it. I have pretty thick skin from these boys that probably sit in mom's basement in their underwear as they carry out their chairborne ranger tactics. I never thought of that before, but it wouldn't surprise me. If they did, I would reckon they would target any cigarette forums before they would even consider pipe forums. I think the vast majority of the world think that pipe smoking is a thing of the past. That said, even if you ARE an asswipe, you're OUR asswipe. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 18, 2019 10:19:33 GMT -5
We have been to Disneyworld twice. We weren't excited about most of it but we absolutely loved Epcot. Not being able to smoke there doesn't bother me one bit. If we ever get back we will only visit that one park.
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Post by joeman on Jun 18, 2019 10:29:30 GMT -5
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Post by sperrytops on Jun 18, 2019 13:04:39 GMT -5
I have never been a big Disney fan. My wife says we need to go to Disney World once, to have the experience. I looked at how much it would cost. Holy crapazoidz. I can't imagine paying that much to wait in line for hours amongst a zoo of people. Plus, they dont have good rollercoasters, and I want me some rollercoasters (so does my daughter). So, I don't know if we'll ever get there, but it seems there are other "experiences" I'd rather spend with my kids. When I was about 11, we took a trip all through Colorado, new Mexico, Arizona, Utah, and Wyoming. I'll NEVER forget it. So, rollercoasters you say....I was lucky to stay with my grandfather during the Summer time when I was younger. He lived about 10 minutes from Coney Island in Brooklyn. Once he road the Cyclone with me I couldn’t keep him off it....lol. He was always a child at heart. A great man, miss him dearly. Great memories last with you forever. I have some fine ones with my own father, like when he taught me to swim at Lake Erie when I was little. He (and my mother) took us to Disneyland when we were young, it was probably only two years after they first opened. I took my kids and grandkids there for a three day vacation, at the time maybe ten years ago. Certainly more commercialized, more expensive, more crowded, but still great memories. My grandson is now 17 and still remembers all the details of that trip. |
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Post by instymp on Jun 18, 2019 17:12:31 GMT -5
Sean may have a point here, especially for a place that charges over $100.00 a day to be there. The last time I was at Disneyland, the smoking sections were few and far between and well off the path or atmosphere of children and others who object. "Nanny-ism" is becoming rampant. When I was a child, we didn't have seat belts in cars. We survived. We had Grandads and Uncles who smoked pipes and/or cigarettes in their homes when we visited. We survived. We played in the dirt and didn't wash our hands afterwards. We survived. Things have changed. And crawled up on the shelf between the back window & back seat when traveling, before the little dogs with the bobbing heads became popular. Back then it was kids heads. Broke thermometers to get the mercury out to play with & make dimes shinier than new...and so on. |
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Post by sperrytops on Jun 18, 2019 17:52:49 GMT -5
Or riding in the backseat, no seat belts, while Dad drove the car over a rise in the road at 50, and you could feel yourself unweight and rise into the air a bit. As good as a rollercoaster.
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Post by dave g on Jun 18, 2019 19:13:50 GMT -5
They’ll pry my loose ice from cold dead hands. That’s where I draw the line.
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I'll be a naysayer, smell the diesel fumes some rode on bus to go to Disney world, hey let's ban buses, stop over to McDonalds and get a Big Mac, clog your arterys , let's ban Big Macs, stop wars, that way we won't send our young men like I was to be shot maimed or die. Life kills you, and the Life police piss me off, always banning other people's crap not theirs. Live and let Live is my motto, too many people minding my business. Apologies beforehand fellows.
