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Post by insignia100 on Mar 31, 2019 11:42:49 GMT -5
I'm curious if anyone has any suggestions or insight on some smaller cigars to try. I've only recently started smoking a pipe, but I've been thinking that small cigars or cigarillos might be more convenient when traveling, around town, etc. I'm also currently considering picking up some ACID green cigarillos and Panter Blue cigarillos (+/- a Punch Elite just for the heck of it). Just how much more offensive is cigar smoke vs pipe? -- and I know that is a VERY subjective question...
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Mar 31, 2019 11:45:37 GMT -5
I'm curious if anyone has any suggestions or insight on some smaller cigars to try. I've only recently started smoking a pipe, but I've been thinking that small cigars or cigarillos might be more convenient when traveling, around town, etc. I'm also currently considering picking up some ACID green cigarillos and Panter Blue cigarillos (+/- a Punch Elite just for the heck of it). Just how much more offensive is cigar smoke vs pipe? -- and I know that is a VERY subjective question... Cohiba clubs if you can get ahold of them. Virtually any small Fuente would be heavenly also |
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Post by Darin on Mar 31, 2019 12:19:45 GMT -5
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Post by insignia100 on Mar 31, 2019 13:45:26 GMT -5
Thanks for the link to those threads -- I'll continue my research. I've got some C&D Habana Daydream on order so I may see how I react to the included cigar leaf before I plunge into the cigar world.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 14:22:01 GMT -5
These were gifted to me, I highly recommend them👌👍👍. I’ve been an Arturo Fuentes fan for 40 plus years!!!   |
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Post by insignia100 on Mar 31, 2019 15:28:55 GMT -5
These were gifted to me, I highly recommend them👌👍👍. I’ve been an Arturo Fuentes fan for 40 plus years!!! Those are among the ones I was looking at! How would you characterize their strength? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 15:32:36 GMT -5
Definitely ^^^^^^^^^ mild.....just below medium, not strong or harsh at all. It’s about a 20 minute enjoyable cigar. Your new to cigars....this is a must try for you. If I had any left I’d send it to you!!!
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Post by insignia100 on Apr 1, 2019 17:58:29 GMT -5
Stopped by the cigar shop today. Picked up the following:
1x Arturo Fuente Exquisitos
1x Arturo Fuenta Cubanitos tin
1x My Father La Antiguedad
Looking forward to trying the Exquisitos tomorrow.
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Post by insignia100 on Apr 2, 2019 13:59:21 GMT -5
Wow!
Since I don't have a humidor, I'm going to have to smoke the two single cigars soon. I decided to start with the Fuente Exquisitos. I am pleasantly surprised! It is definitely MUCH different than the pipe, both in mechanics (duh) and flavor. The initial aroma of the cigar was that of barnyard (in a good way!) and a bit intoxicating. After cutting the cigar, and removing a bit of the foot (the wrapper was overlapping and preventing a good toast), I toasted and lit the tip. The initial flavor was that of chocolate with peppery overtones. Lots of earthiness, too, which was quite nice. I did find that it got a bit harsh as I smoked it down, but once I slowed my draw a bit it improved. I suspect the shorter cigars aren't able to cool the smoke as well, and slowing down helped dissipate some of the heat that lead to the harshness. I also noticed a bit of the ashy taste that I complained about with burley pipe blends, but it was much less prominent and in a way contributed to the taste in a positive way. The smoke lasted 30-35 minutes for me.
Now I'm looking forward to trying the larger My Father La Antiguedad...
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Post by insignia100 on Apr 8, 2019 16:01:05 GMT -5
Ya know... I've tried a few more cigars, and so far I'm just not feeling it. Pipe tobacco tastes better and has a larger variety. I also don't need quite as long a commitment with the pipe as a cigar -- if I start an $8 cigar, I'm gonna want to finish it. If I start a pipe bowl... well, its not as much of a loss if I have to dump the bowl. I may keep a few around, but I doubt I'm going to partake with any regularity.
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Post by trailboss on Apr 8, 2019 16:10:06 GMT -5
Not really a cigar guy, but I have had a humidor and cigars on hand for a few years... while I am not being drawn away from the pipe, I find myself wanting a cigar more often, and really enjoying it to its fullest.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Apr 8, 2019 17:21:06 GMT -5
 Just smoked a Padron on porch, light drizzle, Buddy at my feet, love the mildness of the Padron, got a 5 cigar Padron sampler, so far Arto short Story and Padron are the best for me.
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 8, 2019 17:49:51 GMT -5
I love the Short Stories. One of my favorite stogies.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 18:02:37 GMT -5
These were gifted to me, I highly recommend them👌👍👍. I’ve been an Arturo Fuentes fan for 40 plus years!!! I don't think I've ever had an Arturo Fuentes cigar. I'll have to try one next time I go to my tobacconist. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 18:16:58 GMT -5
These were gifted to me, I highly recommend them👌👍👍. I’ve been an Arturo Fuentes fan for 40 plus years!!! I don't think I've ever had an Arturo Fuentes cigar. I'll have to try one next time I go to my tobacconist. Randy, if your a dark leaf fan I recommend trying an AF 858 Maduro. The 858 also comes with a natural leaf. If I had I’d send you a couple. Let me know your thoughts once you smoke an AF cigar. |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Apr 8, 2019 18:41:45 GMT -5
+1 on the 858 Maduro. It's my favorite cigar so far.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 20:56:11 GMT -5
Yet another vote for Fuentes. I'd also recommend Petite Cabaiguans, made by the same factory as My Father. They're a great mild-medium smoke, unlike most of what My Father/Tatuaje/Pepin Garcia produce.
Meaning, by the way, be careful with that La Antiguedad. It might pack a wallop (I haven't tried them but they're considered medium-strong). The Flor de Las Antillas is more of a solid medium, and a really great cigar. I wish they did small ones in tins!
Also, IMHO cigars can be great and they can be horrible, and they do vary by region etc. But they do all taste like cigars. You're not going to get the same kind of variations you get between a Balkan, a VaPer, and an aro, for example. But sometimes a cigar really hits the spot!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2019 22:05:04 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever had an Arturo Fuentes cigar. I'll have to try one next time I go to my tobacconist. Randy, if your a dark leaf fan I recommend trying an AF 858 Maduro. The 858 also comes with a natural leaf. If I had I’d send you a couple. Let me know your thoughts once you smoke an AF cigar. I'm a Maduro fan, so AF 858 Maduro it will be. Thanks for the recommendation, Ted. |
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Post by atison on Apr 11, 2019 12:50:00 GMT -5
I will agree with what others have said. Not as much variation in cigar flavors as there are in pipe tobacco, even if you don't account for aromatics. I also feel that the flavor to harshness ratio (if that is even a thing, if not, I just created it) is much better in pipe tobacco. Its funny because I will catch a whiff of a cigar and immediately want one, but the aroma off the foot doesn't translate to the taste quite as well. And the wife doesn't want me near her after a cigar where as after some pipes she will chime in with something like "ooh, now that ones not bad", so I got that going for me.
I came to pipes from cigars. I do like cigars but once I really gave pipes a proper try I haven't looked back. I do crave a cigar every once in a while but haven't had one in 6 months.
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Post by insignia100 on Jun 25, 2019 19:16:53 GMT -5
Back trying cigars... I tried a Gurkha Royal Challenge last week, and today smoked the My Father La Antiguedad. I'm starting to come around, though I doubt I'll ever smoke cigars as often as my pipes. The My Father was pretty good, but I think I liked the Gurkha a bit better. However, I think that's because I'm gravitating to the more mild cigars. I don't know if I can say I prefer maduros yet, but the two I've had I've liked.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 20:58:20 GMT -5
Cool just have fun and explore.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 26, 2019 2:02:10 GMT -5
Cool just have fun and explore. I would agree with this...enjoy the experience. |
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Post by briarbuck on Jun 26, 2019 8:31:53 GMT -5
I tend to buy cigars based on Region. Nicaragua and The Dominican are the 2 regions that seem to fit what I like.
Here are a few in that region I enjoy:
Tatuaje, (the Noella is my favorite non-cuban cigar from the maker Tatoo Pete).
My Fathers
Peppin Garcia
Fuente
I also tend to buy size. No, not big cigars, actually the opposite. The best leaf is the wrapper. The lowest grade is the filler. Lonesdales and the thinner gauge cigars have a higher % of wrapper to filler. Thin cigars are significantly more dynamic and flavorful in most cases.
My biggest beef is with cigars is that they tend to be mono-chromatic, they are the same all the way through. One of the things I like about a pipe is that a bowl changes as you go along. A good cigar should do the same.
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Post by insignia100 on Jun 29, 2019 21:10:24 GMT -5
Picked up one of my B&M's unbanded cheapo cigars ($3) yesterday and went fishing today. I was pleasantly surprised, at the very least because while there was nothing spectacular about the smoke, there was also nothing offensive about it either. The cigar was a tad spongy, had a someone stiff draw, and the cap was a bit sloppy and started coming apart in my mouth. Burn was fairly even for the first half of the stick, but required several corrective burns in the second half. Not bad for a $3 cigar. I think I'll try out one of their maduros next.
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Post by Darin on Jun 30, 2019 7:34:59 GMT -5
The best leaf is the wrapper. The lowest grade is the filler. This may be true in very cheap cigars but not in quality ones. That's one of the big differences in price. The fillers are aged and fermented just as carefully as the wrappers. Also, cigars that are monochromatic are poorly blended. I roll my own cigars and 90% of the time don't even apply a wrapper. The double binder, which should also be high quality, works perfectly on its own. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2019 12:17:07 GMT -5
I get what Briarbuck means a good wrapper can change a cigar. Same guts and a couple of different wrappers. Out west I smoked a lot of stogies with wrapper falling off that I took the rest of the way off. Gosh I love free cigars that B/M can not sale.
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Post by Darin on Jun 30, 2019 12:37:52 GMT -5
Totally agree … not to say it doesn't make some difference but it shouldn't be the end-all for any stick.
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Post by briarbuck on Jul 1, 2019 8:21:38 GMT -5
The best leaf is the wrapper. The lowest grade is the filler. This may be true in very cheap cigars but not in quality ones. That's one of the big differences in price. The fillers are aged and fermented just as carefully as the wrappers. Also, cigars that are monochromatic are poorly blended. I roll my own cigars and 90% of the time don't even apply a wrapper. The double binder, which should also be high quality, works perfectly on its own. From what little I know from the "cigar" guys that are in the business, say otherwise. Cigar leaf is graded from he top to the bottom of the plant. Top leaves are for one thing, and bottoms are for anther. The most expensive and hardest to source quality leaf is the wrapper. If you don't think that the wrapper makes a huge difference, just smoke a Connecticut shade (macanudo) and then a Sun Grown Fuente and guage the difference. It's massive. When you start increasing the % of wrapper, the changes are even more pronounced. BTW, I don't smoke inexpensive sticks...  IMHO most of the reason that dudes want some 65 gauge thing hanging out of their mouths is to overcompensate. lol |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 3:21:55 GMT -5
I don't get the giant ring gauge thing or the Nub. My most smoked cigar is a Padron Londres 42x5 1/2. I smoke a lot of cheap inexpensive sticks and have no problem doing it. I do stay away from bundles other than Cusano. After a hiatus just starting to experiment some.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2019 3:32:53 GMT -5
Yup, I’ve smoked a few different Nubs, but I’m not into shorties that are on the pricey side. Here in NC I can purchase a Padron 3000 or 4000 cheaper then a Nub👍👍👍 A Nub Torpedo Maduro purchased here is almost $10.00. A Padron 3000 under $9.00, I’ll take the Padron please.
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Just smoked a Padron on porch, light drizzle, Buddy at my feet, love the mildness of the Padron, got a 5 cigar Padron sampler, so far Arto short Story and Padron are the best for me.
