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Post by stone on Jul 2, 2019 7:54:51 GMT -5
I'm curious if anyone has any suggestions or insight on some smaller cigars to try. I've only recently started smoking a pipe, but I've been thinking that small cigars or cigarillos might be more convenient when traveling, around town, etc. I'm also currently considering picking up some ACID green cigarillos and Panter Blue cigarillos (+/- a Punch Elite just for the heck of it). Just how much more offensive is cigar smoke vs pipe? -- and I know that is a VERY subjective question... Rather than targeting "smaller" try to find the "right" cigar. Small cigars will not be able to provide the complexity of flavor that is achieved by having more than one type of leaf as a filler; they are also typically machine made from leaf scraps. When I want a quick smoke I simply accept that I may throw 2/3 of the stick out but I know I will enjoy the 1/3 I smoke. Fuente and Padron both have some really good cigars between $4 and $8 and believe it or not, there are a number of good Cuban sticks which can be bought for under $100 per box of 25.
Good luck!
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Post by briarbuck on Jul 2, 2019 9:52:13 GMT -5
I'm curious if anyone has any suggestions or insight on some smaller cigars to try. I've only recently started smoking a pipe, but I've been thinking that small cigars or cigarillos might be more convenient when traveling, around town, etc. I'm also currently considering picking up some ACID green cigarillos and Panter Blue cigarillos (+/- a Punch Elite just for the heck of it). Just how much more offensive is cigar smoke vs pipe? -- and I know that is a VERY subjective question... Rather than targeting "smaller" try to find the "right" cigar. Small cigars will not be able to provide the complexity of flavor that is achieved by having more than one type of leaf as a filler; they are also typically machine made from leaf scraps. When I want a quick smoke I simply accept that I may throw 2/3 of the stick out but I know I will enjoy the 1/3 I smoke. Fuente and Padron both have some really good cigars between $4 and $8 and believe it or not, there are a number of good Cuban sticks which can be bought for under $100 per box of 25.
Good luck!
Respectfully, this is hogwash Sir. Smoke a Tatuate Noella, a Cuban partagas corona or Peppin Garcia lonesdale and then you come back and tell me how a small cigar will not provide the flavor. None of the small cigars from quality manufacturers are made from leaf scraps. I'd be more than happy to send you one from my collection just to make you eat crow.  I do agree on finding what's fits your taste, rather than buying what others say is good. Again, I typically target regions I like. Size while important, is secondary. |
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Post by stone on Jul 2, 2019 10:36:39 GMT -5
Rather than targeting "smaller" try to find the "right" cigar. Small cigars will not be able to provide the complexity of flavor that is achieved by having more than one type of leaf as a filler; they are also typically machine made from leaf scraps. When I want a quick smoke I simply accept that I may throw 2/3 of the stick out but I know I will enjoy the 1/3 I smoke. Fuente and Padron both have some really good cigars between $4 and $8 and believe it or not, there are a number of good Cuban sticks which can be bought for under $100 per box of 25.
Good luck!
Respectfully, this is hogwash Sir. Smoke a Tatuate Noella, a Cuban partagas corona or Peppin Garcia lonesdale and then you come back and tell me how a small cigar will not provide the flavor. None of the small cigars from quality manufacturers are made from leaf scraps. I'd be more than happy to send you one from my collection just to make you eat crow. I do agree on finding what's fits your taste, rather than buying what others say is good. Again, I typically target regions I like. Size while important, is secondary. 1. I was referring to the concept of cigarillo type cigars.
2. Maybe you prefer a less robust/complex cigar?
4. I suggest you send me a few of each of the great little sticks you are referring to and after smoking them I will render my opinion as to your mistakenness  |
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Post by briarbuck on Jul 2, 2019 12:12:34 GMT -5
Respectfully, this is hogwash Sir. Smoke a Tatuate Noella, a Cuban partagas corona or Peppin Garcia lonesdale and then you come back and tell me how a small cigar will not provide the flavor. None of the small cigars from quality manufacturers are made from leaf scraps. I'd be more than happy to send you one from my collection just to make you eat crow. I do agree on finding what's fits your taste, rather than buying what others say is good. Again, I typically target regions I like. Size while important, is secondary.
I will answer in order: 1. I was referring to the concept of cigarillo type cigars. Understand. I would say drugstore. Yes, the machined cheapo's use scrap. The premiums do not. 2. Maybe you prefer a less robust/complex cigar? Ha...hardly. Opus are my favorite followed by various Cubans. I will smoke lirhero (sp) and will grab a sun grown over a shade wrapper every time. Smoking a Macanudo (to me) is a similar experience to eating only popcorn for dinner. 3. Most major manufacturers produce "short leaf" filled cigars.https://www.famous-smoke.com/cigaradvisor/short-filler-vs-long-filler . See answer #1 4. I suggest you send me a few of each of the great little sticks you are referring to and after smoking them I will render my opinion as to your mistakenness Done. PM me your addy my fellow Buckeye. I will change your mind. Go Bucks |
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Post by Darin on Jul 2, 2019 12:14:47 GMT -5
briarbuck, the Macanudo and Fuente you referenced don't have the same fillers so it's apples to oranges. I've rolled Puros of every type of leaf I've ever purchased and the difference between Ligero, Seco / Viso and Volado is pronounced. You are correct that these are from different parts of the plant ... top to bottom the way I listed them. It's the bottom leaves that make the best wrappers due to being thinner and more stretchy. Also, growing plants in shade promotes thinner leaves with lighter coloring. I'm not saying that the wrapper has no effect because it does have a great influence. Just that with good quality fillers that are blended correctly it's not as important.
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