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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2016 21:01:53 GMT -5
This is one I've been curious about for a long time. Few reviewers address it; however, it's one of the most important elements I use to gauge any tobacco. Nic kick isn't essential for great body. Taste is subjective but the body of a smoke appears to me to be the sine qua non of any which stick and bring me back for more regardless of the genre.
Good examples for me include Mac Baren Vanilla Cream and Boswell Pennsylvania Dutch Treat which are the only aros currently in my rotation. Not saying there aren't other great aros out there but, after sampling many, these two have sufficient body I require.
For lack of a better description, it's somewhat of a "thickness" which enhances flavor. I find it across the board in both Gawith and McClelland Virginia offerings.
I recognize there are decenters but Esoterica Lats are prized precisely because of their body. Others seem chasing.
I don't think I could ever smoke Carter Haul again as long as Uhle keeps cranking out their burley, just better body.
Good stuff and wondered what everybody else thought.
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Post by antb on Dec 14, 2016 1:44:41 GMT -5
"Body" is hard to define, but I think your reference to 'thickness' is just about right. Sort of fills your mouth and nose with a blissful rich aroma and feel.
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Post by Motto on Dec 14, 2016 2:51:05 GMT -5
Hi, my two penneth worth, is that it often also depends on the pipe dimensions & the packing of the bowl & particularly (but when in a "box" as well) when lunting, the moisture & oxygen content & wind & temperature factors effect the body & thickness, independent sometimes of tobacco blends,
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 8:34:01 GMT -5
Hi, my two penneth worth, is that it often also depends on the pipe dimensions & the packing of the bowl & particularly (but when in a "box" as well) when lunting, the moisture & oxygen content & wind & temperature factors effect the body & thickness, independent sometimes of tobacco blends, I'd previously never given much thought to the elements affecting body but it makes a lot of sense. Something I'll pay closer attention to this winter. |
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Post by lestrout on Jun 3, 2017 21:17:56 GMT -5
This is a very thoughtful observation. Creaminess and body are attributes cigar puffers talk about a lot. They are important in food and drink, too, and are especially noticeable in wines and whisk(e)ys. I listened to a talk by the president of the foremost such institution in the world, the Monell Chemical Senses Center, which is happily based right here in Philly. They, in conjunction with Japanese researchers, defined the fifth taste sense, umami, which is the quality of meatiness (in addition to the usual parameters of sweetness, sourness, saltiness and bitterness. The talk discussed yet another dimension, kokumi, which is the quality of creaminess and mouthfeel.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2017 21:31:07 GMT -5
Very interesting, the thought of the body of a smoke adding to the pleasure of the smoke adds another dimension to the enjoyment and fulfilment we all desire.
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Post by peteguy on Jun 3, 2017 21:56:37 GMT -5
I think I get the gist of what you are saying. I used to love 1Q and a few others like that but they just don't do it anymore. I bet they are missing what you are describing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2017 6:43:58 GMT -5
It was December and night. I probably had a fire going in the wood burning stove and enjoyed a good amount of grog when I typed this beauty. Good stuff though. Carter Haul LOL!
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Post by crapgame on Jun 4, 2017 17:15:01 GMT -5
I know exactly what you mean. For me I go by how a tobacco feels while I smoke it..does it hit my nose like a burning pile of leaves or like a neighbors fireplace burning? Does the smoke billow about while smoking or just seem to disappear? Will the blend have me sip some good coffee for enhanced enjoyment or have me drink right from the faucet before my face starts to melt? Mouthfeel is what I also judge by..does the smoke hit all the right places for a total experience or does it go straight for the roof of my mouth and back of my tongue setting both on fire?
So yes I do choose tobaccos by mouthfeel otherwise I would never enjoy a pipe full of tobacco!
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Post by Baboo on Jun 4, 2017 18:48:04 GMT -5
What an outstanding thread topic!!! Les added a valuable contribution to our contemplation, as have others: namely, kokumi, which is the quality of creaminess and mouthfeel; and @motto (Stan) discussed the essential qualification of pipe dimension and shape which contribute to temperature and smoke concentration, etc... I love a tobacco/pipe combo that gives me a meaty, creamy, concentrated flavor experience that allows me to tease out the characteristic nuances of the leaf with various smoking techniques. For a nice change of pace I like to roll my pipe tobaccos in ultra-thin RAW or clear cellulose cig paper. This gives me an alternate flavor perspective and experience that broadens my enjoyment even further. I also use a high-temp herbal vaporizer which gives me an AMAZING all natural tobacco flavor experience unlike any other combustible means - no char or ash flavor - just sweet, spicy, leathery, woodsy, unadulterated goodness! I highly recommend you, my friends, give these methods a fair try before poo pooing the idea. You will discover something new and wonderful about your favorite blends. :-)
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