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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2019 23:23:15 GMT -5
Carlos Castaneda
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Post by Darin on Apr 19, 2019 23:41:06 GMT -5
Always enjoyed reading Castaneda and still believe that the log you thought was a bear really was a bear until you perceived it as a log.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 0:01:33 GMT -5
Darin The reality you see and feel May be different from mine at this moment. Many will not understand The Warrior Way. Also the ant peoples words are coming true.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 0:15:42 GMT -5
An interesting man who wrote some inventive fiction. ;-)
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Post by trailboss on Apr 20, 2019 0:21:14 GMT -5
In High School my hippie literature teacher required us to read Carlos Castaneda... as a budding bud smoker, I was pretty excited about the prospect of consuming Peyote buttons.... but Kansas had no such natural resource.
Probably not the best thing to recommend to the Yute’s.
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 20, 2019 6:52:04 GMT -5
In High School my hippie literature teacher required us to read Carlos Castaneda... as a budding bud smoker, I was pretty excited about the prospect of consuming Peyote buttons.... but Kansas had no such natural resource. Probably not the best thing to recommend to the Yute’s. ...I tried peyote once... made me "catapult my macaroons"... the dreaded Lysergic is so much more civilized, if once desires that experience... |
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Post by Darin on Apr 20, 2019 7:10:43 GMT -5
Darin The reality you see and feel May be different from mine at this moment. Many will not understand The Warrior Way. Also the ant peoples words are coming true. Interesting that the Hopi words anu-naki loosely translate to "ant friends". Could very well be the same race as described by the Sumerians ... "Anunnaki". |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 9:22:02 GMT -5
An interesting man who wrote some inventive fiction. ;-) let me ask you this, Are the words fiction or an interpretation of an alternate reality? Have you gone beyond the first series of journeys? The hardest thing in a journey is taking the first step. The next is opening your mind to what you will see and feel. |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 20, 2019 9:38:45 GMT -5
Always enjoyed reading Castenada. Whether fiction or not is less important.
Had one experience with Peyote on the sunny side of Mt. Tamalpais overlooking the Pacific. Met God. Learned a lot which helped me along the way. Similar to my first LSD experience the year earlier which was influenced by Herman Hesse's book Siddhartha. Ditto my first Mescaline extract experience which occurred inside a Mosque.
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Post by Darin on Apr 20, 2019 11:30:16 GMT -5
Always enjoyed reading Castenada. Whether fiction or not is less important.
Had one experience with Peyote on the sunny side of Mt. Tamalpais overlooking the Pacific. Met God. Learned a lot which helped me along the way. Similar to my first LSD experience the year earlier which was influenced by Herman Hesse's book Siddhartha. Ditto my first Mescaline extract experience which occurred inside a Mosque.
Once you've opened the Third Eye, you'll never be quite the same.
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Post by Darin on Apr 20, 2019 11:31:47 GMT -5
Like a parachute … the mind only functions properly when open. 
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 11:35:38 GMT -5
An interesting man who wrote some inventive fiction. ;-) let me ask you this, Are the words fiction or an interpretation of an alternate reality? Have you gone beyond the first series of journeys? The hardest thing in a journey is taking the first step. The next is opening your mind to what you will see and feel. I believe that the psychedelic stuff is true, and who knows - possibly even reflecting an alternate reality beyond his own mind. I also think there is a lot of wisdom and insight in his writings. But at the same time I'm also convinced that the ethnography is fiction. Whether that matters or not depends on whether you're interesting in his writings as a true portrayal of Yaqui culture (which they're not), or as mystical writings. As the latter, they definitely have value for a lot of people. They also have value as an interesting case in messing with academia. I wish we knew his real motives - if he even had any. It's highly possible that he himself believed what he was writing, and that his "alternate reality" collided with mundane reality in a way that made him unable to separate the two. toshtego - This isn't you, is it?  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 11:39:34 GMT -5
Like a parachute … the mind only functions properly when open.
Open-mindedness does not preclude critical thinking. We need to be able to remember when it's time to open the parachute.  |
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Post by toshtego on Apr 20, 2019 11:56:24 GMT -5
let me ask you this, Are the words fiction or an interpretation of an alternate reality? Have you gone beyond the first series of journeys? The hardest thing in a journey is taking the first step. The next is opening your mind to what you will see and feel. I believe that the psychedelic stuff is true, and who knows - possibly even reflecting an alternate reality beyond his own mind. I also think there is a lot of wisdom and insight in his writings. But at the same time I'm also convinced that the ethnography is fiction. Whether that matters or not depends on whether you're interesting in his writings as a true portrayal of Yaqui culture (which they're not), or as mystical writings. As the latter, they definitely have value for a lot of people. They also have value as an interesting case in messing with academia. I wish we knew his real motives - if he even had any. It's highly possible that he himself believed what he was writing, and that his "alternate reality" collided with mundane reality in a way that made him unable to separate the two. toshtego - This isn't you, is it? Nope. I was more like this guy:  where is the closest shell gas station to me |
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 20, 2019 12:08:19 GMT -5
What happens when your only choice is two blue pills?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 12:19:45 GMT -5
What happens when your only choice is two blue pills? You take both? |
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 20, 2019 12:23:27 GMT -5
What happens when your only choice is two blue pills? You take both? lol |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Apr 20, 2019 12:43:49 GMT -5
 Neighbor took 2, all his blood went to his little head, Amblance came and got him, kids asked me Dad what’s wrong with Mr Johnny, told them he’s allergic to blue.! 
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 20, 2019 12:49:09 GMT -5
I read Carlos Castaneda in college. Always wondered if there was anything to it. Buddy of mine went for it hook, line and sinker. He had a little shrine to CC in his apartment and sat cross legged on the floor with an open journal at his side. Expected to to take a ride in the fourth dimension when he took the peyote, come back and write his memoirs. Don't think that ever happened. Anyway, ol' CC made a bucket of money off those books and I'm sure he gave it all away as you can't really spend dollars in the fourth dimension and in this dimension he probably thought they were all a mirage anyway.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Apr 20, 2019 12:54:12 GMT -5
Always enjoyed reading Castenada. Whether fiction or not is less important.
Had one experience with Peyote on the sunny side of Mt. Tamalpais overlooking the Pacific. Met God. Learned a lot which helped me along the way. Similar to my first LSD experience the year earlier which was influenced by Herman Hesse's book Siddhartha. Ditto my first Mescaline extract experience which occurred inside a Mosque.
Once you've opened the Third Eye, you'll never be quite the same.
I think this is why I get along with those people better. There's a certain synergy there. |
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Post by Darin on Apr 20, 2019 13:10:58 GMT -5
Like a parachute … the mind only functions properly when open.
Open-mindedness does not preclude critical thinking.
... He says to the scientist. LOL
It's the barrage of critical thinking that gets in our way as humans … far more difficult to quiet the mind than activate it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 14:01:30 GMT -5
Open-mindedness does not preclude critical thinking.
... He says to the scientist. LOL
It's the barrage of critical thinking that gets in our way as humans … far more difficult to quiet the mind than activate it.
Haha, probably should have disclosed that my background is anthropology and archaeology (as well as hallucinogens and Eastern philosophies!). Very true about critical thinking - it has its time and place, and specific functions and is not helpful in mindfulness practices etc. But I'm also continually amazed how so many people lack basic critical thinking altogether. There is a hell of a lot of closed-mindedness, adherence to dogma, and lack of critical thinking in the sciences as I'm sure you know. As in all areas of life, finding balance is the key for me. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Apr 20, 2019 14:06:18 GMT -5
Some friends of mine, years ago, attended a seminar he conducted in Colombia...these were folks, whom I respected both for their intellect and their honesty,...what they told me about the seminar was truly amazing...things that seemed impossible.
Many, many years back when I investigated the various psychobiotic substances, one was conducted by US gov. Drs. at Fl. Atlantic Univ (before they became accredited) during the late 60's... they conducted experiments with different substances with thought of using them as biologicals in warfare...a few of the test subjects (students) never came back and were institutionalized, that was the end of the "program" that the Gov. had planned.
Traveling through your blood stream, in your mind, you experienced many of the out-of-body occurrences that Castenada talked about.
At this late stage of my life, while I am glad that I did it...I would never consider it again, nor would I encourage anyone else to try it. Far too dangerous if you weren't accompanied by a "coach".
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Post by Darin on Apr 20, 2019 15:40:38 GMT -5
@chico … so true! It's a world of people "informed" by the media and internet.
There's a lot of experts with no first-hand, "boots on the ground" experience.
BTW … interesting disciplines! My friend Mike got his Masters at NAU in Quaternary Studies under the guy that headed up the Hot Springs, SD Mammoth dig.
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 20, 2019 15:50:48 GMT -5
I believe that the psychedelic stuff is true, and who knows - possibly even reflecting an alternate reality beyond his own mind. I also think there is a lot of wisdom and insight in his writings. But at the same time I'm also convinced that the ethnography is fiction. Whether that matters or not depends on whether you're interesting in his writings as a true portrayal of Yaqui culture (which they're not), or as mystical writings. As the latter, they definitely have value for a lot of people. They also have value as an interesting case in messing with academia. I wish we knew his real motives - if he even had any. It's highly possible that he himself believed what he was writing, and that his "alternate reality" collided with mundane reality in a way that made him unable to separate the two. toshtego - This isn't you, is it? Nope. I was more like this guy: where is the closest shell gas station to meVoted most likely to blow up the outhouse? 😉😁🤠 |
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 20, 2019 16:14:38 GMT -5
Ultimately, Castaneda died a conventional death, if the reports are correct. They did find and identify the bones of one of his female followers in Death Valley, I believe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2019 16:15:05 GMT -5
Voted most likely to blow up the outhouse? 😉😁🤠 Maybe I misunderstood something here, but I hope I will live to see the day when people don't automatically think "terrorist" when they see a bearded man who is not a Christian. |
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Post by Dramatwist on Apr 20, 2019 16:22:25 GMT -5
While his books were fascinating to me at one point in my life, his "philosophy" seemed extremely difficult. Yes, we are all ultimately alone and will face death by ourselves, but it seems an austere and lonely way to live.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Apr 20, 2019 17:10:40 GMT -5
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Post by Ronv69 on Apr 20, 2019 17:41:43 GMT -5
Voted most likely to blow up the outhouse? 😉😁🤠 Maybe I misunderstood something here, but I hope I will live to see the day when people don't automatically think "terrorist" when they see a bearded man who is not a Christian. And I would like to see the day when you can take a joke and not make everything about race and politics. I probably won't live that long though. |
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Neighbor took 2, all his blood went to his little head, Amblance came and got him, kids asked me Dad what’s wrong with Mr Johnny, told them he’s allergic to blue.! 
