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Post by simnettpratt on May 4, 2019 1:26:07 GMT -5
Boo Firefox. I was using Ghostery as my ad blocker (an excellent little add-on), and Free Download Manager as my download manager. Firefox just quietly disabled both. You get the option to 'Find a Replacement', but when I click the button for a replacement for my download manager, guess who pops up first in the list of results? Of course, Google Container, which is a fork of the Facebook container.
It is wholly not surprising Google and Facebook want to know what I am downloading. There wasn't another download manager on the first page of results, which is where most people would stop.
Clicking the link to Find a Replacement for Ghostery brings up the exact same pages of results: Google (and Facebook) Container first, then a bunch of unrelated results.
Don't get this thread closed, but some of you will understand why I'm pretty pissed. I won't use Internet Explorer, Google's Chrome, or microsoft's Edge, but I think it's time to find another browser. I may go back to Safari; I need to do some research. Feel free to tell me why you like your browser better, but remember we don't talk politics here  |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 1:37:25 GMT -5
David, that occurred with the last Firefox update? Did you save the prior update on a thumb drive?
NOT A CHROME fan here for a number of reasons, one....intrusive....two.....why would I care to use their “ sandbox “ that’s supposedly built in!!
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Post by simnettpratt on May 4, 2019 1:53:05 GMT -5
I didn't notice it happening with the last update, I just got a teeny, unobtrusive message FF had just disabled 'some' of my add-ons. It took some work to find out which ones. Most folks would have just noticed they were getting a bunch of ads all of a sudden, with no idea what to do.
But hey, Opera is WAY faster than FF had become. Sites that would take a long time to scroll down in, are instant in Opera. They have a built-in free VPN too. Don't know how good that is, though. I've just got Opera set up the way I want it, but the thing I'm noticing is how much faster it is than FF. Also, it doesn't hog all my cycles and RAM if I open six tabs; I'm loving it. We'll be playing and testing for a while.
I will NOT use Chrome, or Edge. And now, neither Firefox. You suck Firefox.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 1:56:49 GMT -5
Glad your enjoying Opera now, this browser had some issues in the past. Guess they finally got their act back on track.
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One issue Opera fixed is it now once again works well with slower ISP speeds.
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Post by simnettpratt on May 4, 2019 2:30:31 GMT -5
It's MUCH faster than it ever was before; I'm loving it. Just got Free Download Manager working, now to get Ghostery.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 4:33:33 GMT -5
Golden Brick Capital Private, the group of investors that bought Opera, has also bought Qihoo 360, a chinese security vendor that now has a financial model of selling ads. More concerning is that this company also bought a Certificate Authority and as not been having the best practices. Oh what a fuzzy feeling.
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Post by simnettpratt on May 4, 2019 5:07:59 GMT -5
Well that's just great. It can't be any worse than Chrome or Edge though (and maybe Firefox), but I'm really enjoying the new speed. Free Download Manager and Ghostery are working fine too.
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Post by That Falls Guy on May 4, 2019 5:41:29 GMT -5
The issue isn't Firefox itself. It has to do with lack of verification certificates on the part of some programs themselves.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 5:53:24 GMT -5
The issue isn't Firefox itself. It has to do with lack of verification certificates on the part of some programs themselves.
Thanks for sharing the link Roy, makes sense why all of a sudden Firefox became more of a “ watchdog “ browser. I’m sure Mozilla will be releasing an updated version shortly. When on my server back @ my son’s Firefox was my go to browser. Also on my current Samsung laptop which I have not been using often enough. Very interesting reading👍 On my old and newer iPad I’ve been using SavySoda as my main browser. Once the browser is closed the entire cache of “ where you’ve been “ is automatically deleted. Also satisfied with Dolphin on my mobile devices. |
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Post by simnettpratt on May 4, 2019 6:02:41 GMT -5
I'd read that in my search for what happened, but I'm going to hold judgement until I see the 'bug fix'. What made me suspicious was the steering to google and facebook. Anyway, Opera runs SO much faster than FF did for me I don't care, I'm using Opera for now |
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 4, 2019 7:21:57 GMT -5
I'd go back to Safari if you're not ok with ad revenue, or worried about spying. Apple doesn't sell browsing metrics. My brother in law is in digital marketing and it annoys him that he can't buy data from Apple devices. That said, I use Chrome and Firefox, and accept my new digital overlords.
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Post by just ol ed on May 4, 2019 8:28:45 GMT -5
needless to say but gonna anyhow. Everything above to me...mostly gibberish but here goes anyhow
About 5 yrs ago or so...some folks at old #pipes sez I should dump IE & get Firefox. OK....had techie (who was here at the time), install same & dump IE. I did something I rarely do...give 'em a fancy dancy password. Techie left. So off I go to do a "copy/paste" thing. NO line at the top showing the web address to copy & forward. I have techie access to all in insides of this computer (he's bonded cause his main job). He goes into businesses usually overnite & fixes screw-ups by supposedly tech savvy employees. anyhow, gave him permission to get to our machine. Fun watching the cursor dance around all over the place, course going places now way would I have a clue about. Bottom line, Chrome gone, IE, for what we do online, just fine. Glad others have the smarts to unnerstand the "inner computer".
Most know I'm classified as "mildly learning disabled" due to a short deprived of oxygen at birth. at 78, still able to do some basic stuff. Glad others been able to do the "browser dance" & manage to navigate same.
cheers to all
Ed Duncn, Batavia, NY
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Post by simnettpratt on May 4, 2019 9:12:22 GMT -5
As a tech, I can tell you that most passwords are a joke. microsoft in particular has joke passwords; I can get through a windows password, or a thumbprint authorization in a couple of minutes. I don't talk about how, but I will tell you how much of a joke a windows 98 password was (don't care if folks know how to crack 98).
All the passwords on the computer are saved with the same extension, .pwl. All you have to do is boot to DOS, type del *.pwl (it mean delete every file that ends in .pwl), and all the passwords are gone. microsoft would tell you your computer was secure because it had a password. Well, I don't care if you're password have a hundred letters, numbers and characters in it, it would be gone with one reboot.
Modern versions of windows and things like thumbprint authorizations just require a few more steps. Hacking a windows 7 administrator password takes precisely sixteen steps (just got out me notes).
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Post by Legend Lover on May 4, 2019 9:43:02 GMT -5
As a tech, I can tell you that most passwords are a joke. microsoft in particular has joke passwords; I can get through a windows password, or a thumbprint authorization in a couple of minutes. I don't talk about how, but I will tell you how much of a joke a windows 98 password was (don't care if folks know how to crack 98). All the passwords on the computer are saved with the same extension, .pwl. All you have to do is boot to DOS, type del *.pwl (it mean delete every file that ends in .pwl), and all the passwords are gone. microsoft would tell you your computer was secure because it had a password. Well, I don't care if you're password have a hundred letters, numbers and characters in it, it would be gone with one reboot. Modern versions of windows and things like thumbprint authorizations just require a few more steps. Hacking a windows 7 administrator password takes precisely sixteen steps (just got out me notes). it's crazy to think how easy it is. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 4, 2019 9:46:24 GMT -5
As a tech, I can tell you that most passwords are a joke. microsoft in particular has joke passwords; I can get through a windows password, or a thumbprint authorization in a couple of minutes. I don't talk about how, but I will tell you how much of a joke a windows 98 password was (don't care if folks know how to crack 98). All the passwords on the computer are saved with the same extension, .pwl. All you have to do is boot to DOS, type del *.pwl (it mean delete every file that ends in .pwl), and all the passwords are gone. microsoft would tell you your computer was secure because it had a password. Well, I don't care if you're password have a hundred letters, numbers and characters in it, it would be gone with one reboot. Modern versions of windows and things like thumbprint authorizations just require a few more steps. Hacking a windows 7 administrator password takes precisely sixteen steps (just got out me notes). Or, good old Hiren's. |
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Post by simnettpratt on May 4, 2019 10:46:00 GMT -5
Had to look up Hirens, but yes, I used boot CDs of course. Knowing the code can be more fun though, like when you're on a library pc and can't download what you need because the library's admin tech disabled user's ability to download and all you have is a terminal with no physical access to the box. Muhaha. They weren't happy.
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Post by chasingembers on May 4, 2019 12:53:51 GMT -5
It's issues like this that make me glad I've never owned a computer.
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Post by sperrytops on May 4, 2019 13:55:45 GMT -5
Makes me feel as secure as ever - not at all!
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Post by simnettpratt on May 4, 2019 15:10:33 GMT -5
embers, I hate to say it to you, but if you made your reply on a tablet or phone, you already own a computer, and if you drive a car with any kind of infotainment/GPS system, so does your car.
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Post by chasingembers on May 4, 2019 15:36:11 GMT -5
embers, I hate to say it to you, but if you made your reply on a tablet or phone, you already own a computer, and if you drive a car with any kind of infotainment/GPS system, so does your car. Yeah, but you never have those problems with phones, and my car doesn't have GPS or wireless connections. No television either. |
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