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Post by toshtego on May 6, 2019 10:23:39 GMT -5
As for actors, they live on in their movies forever so they are never really gone.
Some leaders I will miss. Old Bob Dole of Kansas, for one. I did not always agree with him but I liked and respected him. The man had some guts and perseverance.
Jerry Brown on California. Yeah, I know about the "Moonbeam" thing. He was a better public official than is often credited and an original thinker. We will not see another like him for a long time.
For Musicians, John Mayall will be missed. An unassuming straightforward Blues Man who did more for the genre than many others who achieved greater fame and fortune.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 6, 2019 12:23:32 GMT -5
Kelly's Heros is my favorite Eastwood movie.. Red Skelton is already gone..I really miss him.He made me laugh for years. Kelley's Heros is one of my top 10 favorite movies. Just a fantastic flick. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 6, 2019 12:30:40 GMT -5
I have a different take... I saw that movie and saw a woman that horn-dogged herself ou,t and screwed a guy in the house the faithful dad paid for as he took the kids to the state fair...never regretted it and never felt remorse for treating her husband wrong. And the kids were kind of gleeful that mom screwed around on dad when they found the letters after her demise. Don't get me wrong...initially when I watched the movie, I felt sad that Streep didn't jump out of the truck in the rainy scene...it was after I reflected on it when I realized how the cinema can corrupt a sense of what is right. Hollyweird isn't known for sound moral values. Charles Bronson is another favourite of mine. He was once asked why he didn't do love scenes. He replied that he was a married man who didn't want his children to see their mother disrespected on screen. That attitude I both admire & respect. He did love scenes. Noon to Three. Of course he was with his wife. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 6, 2019 12:33:53 GMT -5
Not to be "that guy", but I will not miss a single one of them. They are really good at being something that they are not just to provide entertainment. I just don't place much value in that. John Wayne stood for much more that acting. I'm not sure that even Clint is at that level to be honest. I would say something about what John Wayne really "stood" for, but I would just get in trouble. No admiration here. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 12:37:45 GMT -5
Not to be "that guy", but I will not miss a single one of them. They are really good at being something that they are not just to provide entertainment. I just don't place much value in that. John Wayne stood for much more that acting. I'm not sure that even Clint is at that level to be honest. I would say something about what John Wayne really "stood" for, but I would just get in trouble. No admiration here. Ron ^^^^^^^ I feel the same way, don’t want this thread 🔒 locked 🔒.......lol. |
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Post by sperrytops on May 6, 2019 12:47:26 GMT -5
Clint was always best in the hard action movies, like Harrison Ford was always best in the adventure movies. Both have that tongue in cheek bit of humor behind their lines, a lot like Dwayne Johnson. I think that sets them aside as opposed to those actors who take themselves too seriously. As to who I would miss, I really can't think of any. There are too many other more important people making real contributions to our society that I would miss more.
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Post by briarbuck on May 6, 2019 13:14:01 GMT -5
It was a different era, a different time. Pretty much all of us over the age of 50 did things then that are not looked at "positively" when compared to today's standards. lol
But your guys point is well taken.
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Post by Stearmandriver on May 6, 2019 15:53:20 GMT -5
Not to be "that guy", but I will not miss a single one of them. They are really good at being something that they are not just to provide entertainment. That's why I chose Ford and Redford; two men who have contributed some very respectable work outside of acting/directing. The fact that they can both contribute some quality entertainment as well is just icing on the cake. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 6, 2019 17:30:42 GMT -5
I'll only miss the few friends I have and had...they meant more to me than any actor/actress ever could.
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Post by elric on May 6, 2019 17:57:48 GMT -5
Not to be "that guy", but I will not miss a single one of them. They are really good at being something that they are not just to provide entertainment. I just don't place much value in that. John Wayne stood for much more that acting. I'm not sure that even Clint is at that level to be honest. I agree 99.9% of the time. I have zero interest in an autograph or even to shake hands with any of them but Clint just somehow typifies the way I envision life back then.
And Sean Connery with his line from The Untouchables .... "they put one of yours in the hospital, you put two of theirs in the morgue"
Sean Connery is another one of my favourite actors. The Untouchables was a good movie. It would have been even better without Kevin Costner. How does that guy get work? He's as hopeless an actor as little Tommy Cruise. |
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Post by Stearmandriver on May 6, 2019 18:27:43 GMT -5
I agree 99.9% of the time. I have zero interest in an autograph or even to shake hands with any of them but Clint just somehow typifies the way I envision life back then.
And Sean Connery with his line from The Untouchables .... "they put one of yours in the hospital, you put two of theirs in the morgue"
Sean Connery is another one of my favourite actors. The Untouchables was a good movie. It would have been even better without Kevin Costner. How does that guy get work? He's as hopeless an actor as little Tommy Cruise. In general I'd agree, mostly because it seems like Costner makes pretty cheesy movies lol. But I'd point to Dances with Wolves as a standout. Might it have been better with another actor? Maybe. But it was still a pretty fantastic film, and somewhat groundbreaking for it's time. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 6, 2019 18:43:55 GMT -5
I like several Costner movies,besides DWW.
Tin Cup, Open Range, The Bodyguard, Yellowstone, Hatfields and McCoys, Wyatt Earp, Field of Dreams, etc.
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Post by elric on May 6, 2019 20:19:35 GMT -5
Sean Connery is another one of my favourite actors. The Untouchables was a good movie. It would have been even better without Kevin Costner. How does that guy get work? He's as hopeless an actor as little Tommy Cruise. In general I'd agree, mostly because it seems like Costner makes pretty cheesy movies lol. But I'd point to Dances with Wolves as a standout. Might it have been better with another actor? Maybe. But it was still a pretty fantastic film, and somewhat groundbreaking for it's time. Certain actors can't get out of their own skin enough so that one is able to see the character that they're attempting to portray. Costner spoils any movie he's in. Look at WaterWorld for e.g. A very expensive poor rip-off of the Mad Max genre. It was a huge flop. Costner was so awful that I couldn't get past the first 15 mins before switching channels. So many of his movies are flops it's astounding that anyone would invest in another Costner movie (tax write-off?) Little Tommy Cruise is another. All one sees is Tom Cruise pretending to play a character. He's so one-dimensional. Although there was one exception. A girlfriend who also wouldn't watch any Cruise movie, recommended that I watch Interview With A Vampire. She was right, he didn't ruin it with his lame acting skills. Maybe because he played a fantasy figure so beyond the norm, that he was finally able to 'let go' of himself. Lifes too short to be aggravated by watching movies with D-grade actors. |
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Post by Stearmandriver on May 6, 2019 21:00:54 GMT -5
In general I'd agree, mostly because it seems like Costner makes pretty cheesy movies lol. But I'd point to Dances with Wolves as a standout. Might it have been better with another actor? Maybe. But it was still a pretty fantastic film, and somewhat groundbreaking for it's time. Certain actors can't get out of their own skin enough so that one is able to see the character that they're attempting to portray. Costner spoils any movie he's in. Look at WaterWorld for e.g. A very expensive poor rip-off of the Mad Max genre. It was a huge flop. Costner was so awful that I couldn't get past the first 15 mins before switching channels. So many of his movies are flops it's astounding that anyone would invest in another Costner movie (tax write-off?) Little Tommy Cruise is another. All one sees is Tom Cruise pretending to play a character. He's so one-dimensional. Although there was one exception. A girlfriend who also wouldn't watch any Cruise movie, recommended that I watch Interview With A Vampire. She was right, he didn't ruin it with his lame acting skills. Maybe because he played a fantasy figure so beyond the norm, that he was finally able to 'let go' of himself. Lifes too short to be aggravated by watching movies with D-grade actors. Agreed on Waterworld, and you're right, Costner is pretty much Costner in any movie. That's funny about Cruise too... Interview With a Vampire was pretty much the only role I've thought he was good in too. |
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Post by blackmouth210 on May 6, 2019 21:58:51 GMT -5
Not to be "that guy", but I will not miss a single one of them. They are really good at being something that they are not just to provide entertainment. I just don't place much value in that. John Wayne stood for much more that acting. I'm not sure that even Clint is at that level to be honest. I would say something about what John Wayne really "stood" for, but I would just get in trouble. No admiration here. Thank you. So glad somebody said it. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 6, 2019 22:54:25 GMT -5
Yep, Kevin Costner is pretty much my favorite working actor. Take that, Elrod! 😨😎😁🤠
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Post by elric on May 6, 2019 22:59:21 GMT -5
Never heard of John Waynes rep outside of his movies.
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Post by elric on May 6, 2019 23:06:39 GMT -5
Yep, Kevin Costner is pretty much my favorite working actor. Take that, Elrod! 😨😎😁🤠 You poor man. You must be related to be able to say that with a straight face. Still, I admire & respect such loyalty when you have so little to work with.  |
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Post by trailboss on May 6, 2019 23:17:17 GMT -5
Never heard of John Waynes rep outside of his movies. Anyone care to send me a PM? Promise I wont ban ya, lol. In a 1971 playboy interview, he made some to put it kindly, regrettable remarks of a racist nature. If we truly were to revisit all those that did so, many people with household names, that operate to this day have a long history of doing the same, and still do so... but they somehow get a pass and a collective amnesia seems to pervade the press, and modern culture.... I doubt that accountability will ever happen for them. |
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Post by stone on May 6, 2019 23:30:31 GMT -5
Sean Connery is another one of my favourite actors. The Untouchables was a good movie. It would have been even better without Kevin Costner. How does that guy get work? He's as hopeless an actor as little Tommy Cruise. In general I'd agree, mostly because it seems like Costner makes pretty cheesy movies lol. But I'd point to Dances with Wolves as a standout. Might it have been better with another actor? Maybe. But it was still a pretty fantastic film, and somewhat groundbreaking for it's time. Just one minor problem with Dances With Wolves. 10 bears was not the chief of the Sioux Indians. He was the chief of the Comanche Indians. Just a minor detail on which the entire movie was based! |
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Post by trailboss on May 6, 2019 23:38:26 GMT -5
In general I'd agree, mostly because it seems like Costner makes pretty cheesy movies lol. But I'd point to Dances with Wolves as a standout. Might it have been better with another actor? Maybe. But it was still a pretty fantastic film, and somewhat groundbreaking for it's time. Just one minor problem with Dances With Wolves. 10 bears was not the chief of the Sioux Indians. He was the chief of the Comanche Indians. Just a minor detail on which the entire movie was based! I wasn’t aware of that, but when I do notice such things, I drive the wife crazy... “The Rock” in San Andreas... outrunning earthquakes, and billions of tons of debris swirling around....some of the action movies are pretty lame. Pretty pissed about them superimposing his face on my body also. |
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Post by stone on May 6, 2019 23:42:37 GMT -5
Just one minor problem with Dances With Wolves. 10 bears was not the chief of the Sioux Indians. He was the chief of the Comanche Indians. Just a minor detail on which the entire movie was based! I wasn’t aware of that, but when I do notice such things, I drive the wife crazy... “The Rock” in San Andreas... outrunning earthquakes, and billions of tons of debris swirling around....some of the action movies are pretty lame. Pretty pissed about them superimposing his face on my body also. That made me laugh out loud! Thanks for that! |
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Post by Stearmandriver on May 6, 2019 23:56:51 GMT -5
In general I'd agree, mostly because it seems like Costner makes pretty cheesy movies lol. But I'd point to Dances with Wolves as a standout. Might it have been better with another actor? Maybe. But it was still a pretty fantastic film, and somewhat groundbreaking for it's time. Just one minor problem with Dances With Wolves. 10 bears was not the chief of the Sioux Indians. He was the chief of the Comanche Indians. Just a minor detail on which the entire movie was based! Yep I remember reading this. My take was that the 10 Bears in the movie wasn't intended to be a historical figure but a fictionalized Sioux chief of that period? Dunno, doesn't really ruin the movie for me though. |
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Post by stone on May 6, 2019 23:59:57 GMT -5
Just one minor problem with Dances With Wolves. 10 bears was not the chief of the Sioux Indians. He was the chief of the Comanche Indians. Just a minor detail on which the entire movie was based! Yep I remember reading this. My take was that the 10 Bears in the movie wasn't intended to be a historical figure but a fictionalized Sioux chief of that period? Dunno, doesn't really ruin the movie for me though. You would think that Costner, who directed the movie, would have taken 30 seconds to match-up the name of the historic chief of the tribe that he was going to represent in the movie. It's like making a movie about Elvis Presley, the famous basketball player Lol Or Albert Einstein, the world famous singer. |
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Post by trailboss on May 7, 2019 2:18:41 GMT -5
And Sean Connery with his line from The Untouchables .... "they put one of yours in the hospital, you put two of theirs in the morgue"
Yeah, He had some real stinkers though...diaper, exhibit one. Connery in Zardoz.  |
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Post by Legend Lover on May 7, 2019 4:49:58 GMT -5
Not to be "that guy", but I will not miss a single one of them. They are really good at being something that they are not just to provide entertainment. I just don't place much value in that. John Wayne stood for much more that acting. I'm not sure that even Clint is at that level to be honest. I agree 99.9% of the time. I have zero interest in an autograph or even to shake hands with any of them but Clint just somehow typifies the way I envision life back then.
And Sean Connery with his line from The Untouchables .... "they put one of yours in the hospital, you put two of theirs in the morgue"
I forgot about Sean... He'll be missed too. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 7, 2019 8:18:32 GMT -5
And Sean Connery with his line from The Untouchables .... "they put one of yours in the hospital, you put two of theirs in the morgue"
Yeah, He had some real stinkers though...diaper, exhibit one. Connery in Zardoz. Is that a Webley-Fosbery? |
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Post by toshtego on May 7, 2019 8:36:54 GMT -5
If so, Sean will have a mighty sore thumb if he fires that with the same grip.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 7, 2019 9:36:26 GMT -5
If so, Sean will have a mighty sore thumb if he fires that with the same grip. I don't think there's any good way to fire it. I bet it's a better club. |
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Post by dervis on May 7, 2019 9:53:29 GMT -5
I am not sure I would miss any of them actually. I really thought about it and most of the actors/actress I actually liked have already passed.
I watch about one movie a month and less than an hour of TV a day. It is just not my cup of tea.
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