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Post by Wolfman on May 9, 2019 10:08:14 GMT -5
I just read a tobacco review (see below) for Sutliff Crumble Kake VaPer and am baffled. The writer suggests the sour tang notes are essentially fake. I’ve never sensed anything chemical or artificial with this blend. I would like to know if there’s any truth to this. www.tobaccoreviews.com/blend/11718#review11718At first whiff one would think Sutliff is trying to take over where McClelland left off. But, I don't think that sour tang is from fermentation but the addition of sodium acetate or diacetate which is a food ingredient that imparts an acidic sour-salty aroma and taste i.g. salt & vinegar potato chips. It's different than acetic acid from fermentation and taste to me(and others) almost metallic with an undertone of gun powder. I hate it. This is a common ingredient used for decades in the tobacco industry and Sutliff uses it across their bulk cavendish blends. It just ruins tobacco especially aromatics where one may be smoking the likes of a maple cavendish with those metallic sour notes coming through. It just doesn't work. And it doesn't work with this tobacco of otherwise good red virginia. Fortunatley, it doesn't seem to come through the smoke which suggests to me it is being applied as a topping after made into a cake and sliced. Smoke wise, very mild for a virginia, light on the nicotine, simple and straight forward. Get rid of that chemical additive and perhaps add a bit of a sweatener to reinforce the darker virginia falvor and then it would really be something.
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Post by Legend Lover on May 9, 2019 16:50:21 GMT -5
That's an interesting observation. I will look out for a metallic taste next time I'm smoking. As you know, I can't taste much, but I should be able to detect metallic taste.
I don't have any sutliff tobacco though, but I'll look out for sodium acetate in the blends I do have.
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 9, 2019 20:40:49 GMT -5
Sodium acetate can be a bi-product of vinegar and sodium carbonate or bicarbonate. They use both of those in snus and some snuff, so it could be from adjustment of PH in the tobacco using vinegar and baking powder/soda. I could be wrong, but I can't come up with any good reason to be using sodium acetate by itself.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 9, 2019 23:23:20 GMT -5
It's also a food preservative. I just found out that it's used in Gyros meat. JimInks didn't say it tasted fake and gave it 4 stars. So did some other well respected reviewers.
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