balticbriar
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Favorite Pipe: Peterson Rosslare Royal Irish 999, Sherlock Holmes Squire Rustic PLIP
Favorite Tobacco: John Cotton's Number 1, Solani 633, Samuel Gawith Squadron Leader, Samuel Gawith St. James Flake, Mac Baren HH Latakia Flake, Iwan Ries Gourmet English, Escudo, GL Pease Gaslight
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Post by balticbriar on May 17, 2019 9:07:35 GMT -5
Has anyone else had 'issues' with burley tobacco? Though I enjoy Orlik Dark Strong, and Solani Aged Burley flake is enjoyable enough; I don't seem to long for blends that have Burley or Kentucky tobacco in them. They seem fine at first light, but quickly start tasting bitter and most start giving me not so much a bite as an acidic feel on my tongue.
I mainly ask because I try to break new pipes in with a burley blend. I had used Peterson's Sherlock Holmes blend; but honestly, it took a long time before I could enjoy it a bit; and it still tasted very bitter towards the end of the bowl. Other blends that a passable are Solani Silver Flake and Old Dark Fired.
Are there other Burley blends that might be good for me to try (plan on trying Old Gowrie next)? Are Burley Tobaccos more of an acquired taste? Or is it possible there is just something about my chemistry that is not compatible with Burley blends?
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Post by blackmouth210 on May 17, 2019 9:32:52 GMT -5
I would not discount the possibility that it could be a "chemistry" issue causing your trouble.
But, that's not my immediate thought.
Sometimes, a smoker just doesn't like burley-blends. There are many pipers out there who don't.
Thankfully there are a ton of blends out there that are not burley-forward. Many contain no burley at all.
Gravitate towards those blends for now and revisit burley-blends later on to see if your palate has changed any.
Smoke what you enjoy. You don't have to like every type of blend. Most of us don't.
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captblack
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Post by captblack on May 17, 2019 9:47:25 GMT -5
Mac Baren HH Burley Flake had no very bitter notes that I could discern.
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Post by roadsdiverged on May 17, 2019 9:50:54 GMT -5
I dont get along with a lot of Burley Blends. Pegasus and Haunted Bookshop destroy my mouth in just a few puffs. ERR Match tore me up until I let it sit in a jar for 6 months.
HH Burley Flake and Solani ABF give me no trouble at all. Theres a few others, but I smoke them so infrequently that I'd have to look through my desk to tell you what they are.
I'm sure ots a chemistry thing. Virginia's dont bother me one bit.
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Post by Cramptholomew on May 17, 2019 9:58:35 GMT -5
HH Burley tore me up the first time
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Post by Darin on May 17, 2019 10:30:12 GMT -5
Give me Burley or give me Death! LOL ... yeah, I like the stuff.  It sounds like you may be sensitive to the higher pH of Burley ... plenty of others to choose from luckily. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 11:34:30 GMT -5
Sounds like a pH issue or your Burley blends might need to be air dried a bit before smoking. Everyone is different, I can’t smoke any fresh Virginia without getting what I call a “ snakebite “!! Aged Virginia’s and I get along just fine.
Dry your tobacco a bit more and keep cool water nearby and see if this helps. Good luck
PS
Never brush your teeth then immediately smoke a pipe. Allow your gums to stabilize back to normal. Also adding some baking soda to your toothpaste will lower the acidity level in your mouth.
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Post by monbla256 on May 17, 2019 11:49:07 GMT -5
Can't handle ANY Burley! I start to smoke a blend with ANY Burley in it and I start to sneeze voraciously and taht includes Perique as it Burley based ! Va's are the way !! 
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Post by insignia100 on May 17, 2019 18:29:19 GMT -5
I had a similar experience with burley, and I tend to avoid it. However, I have enjoyed several bowls of Carter Hall without experiencing the bitter taste other burley blends provide.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 17, 2019 19:23:11 GMT -5
Mac Baren HH Burley Flake had no very bitter notes that I could discern. This is what I was gonna recommend, too. But it may be a Ph problem. |
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Post by slowroll on May 17, 2019 19:43:30 GMT -5
For whatever reason, I don't like burley forward blends either.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 20:06:34 GMT -5
A lot of burleys disagree with me once in a blue moon I will have some Haunted Bookstore, OJK or Solani. Some times I get by with it other times it is like sour patch candy overload.
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Post by Scott W on May 19, 2019 14:14:32 GMT -5
I have no issues with burley blends this far. I love the ERR Match and definitely like my velvet. Love Solani ABF too. I do actually detest Kentucky Club Aromatic which I believe has white burley in it
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Post by PhantomWolf on May 19, 2019 14:34:36 GMT -5
I've only really gotten bite from heavily cased or lower quality burley blends.
For the most part, heavy aromatics and Virginia forward blends actually sting me more. As a VA lover, I have really had to learn to reel in on over-enthused puffing.
If cadence isn't your issue, it could very well be a question of chemistry. Either way, you're lucky since you do not seem to enjoy burley anyway. haha
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chasingembers
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Favorite Tobacco: Black Frigate,Solani Silver Flake, Yenidje Highlander, Angler's Dream, Watch City Slices, Salty Dogs, Mephisto, Ennerdale Flake, Rich Dark Honeydew, 1792 Flake
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Post by chasingembers on May 19, 2019 15:12:47 GMT -5
Can personally say that bite has never been an issue with any tobacco that I've smoked. Thirty years ago I started with burley, went to English, fell in love with anything Virginia, and now primarily smoke Virginia/Orientals and Aros. I pack my pipes with no resistance in the airflow with the tobacco as dry as possible.
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