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Post by oldcajun123 on May 19, 2019 9:17:50 GMT -5
Drinking coffe, listening to bluegrass man Del McCoury , high pitched Kentucky voice, my mind wandered, to another music, high pitched Cajun music with his Acordion, or Bob Wills, In the West, so many that are unique in this world, coming from ancestors tired of tyranny, we Americans don’t bow to no one, we only kneel to God, we help people all over the world. We stopped tyranny in Europe, my God it’s so good to be an American, some may try and dilute that, but our goodness shines thru. I love this country.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2019 9:23:28 GMT -5
A day doesn’t go by that I don’t thank God I’m an American!!! Whenever I traveled out of the Sates, upon return the first thing I use to do is bend down and kiss the ground I was lucky enough to be born on. Don’t take America for granted.
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Post by pepesdad1 on May 19, 2019 9:38:12 GMT -5
We've had our problems, that is for sure...but the inner goodness still shines...particularly when a disaster strikes. When one is down we are all down and help comes in many forms. Yes, without question, in spite of all the new laws and restrictions, we are still gonna be on top.
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Post by puffy on May 19, 2019 10:23:06 GMT -5
America.is a really great country.We have problems here though that need to be resolved.Improvements need to be made in some areas.I guess nothing in this life is ever going to be perfect.I consider myself to be extremely lucky to have been born here..I would like to visit some other countries as long as I have a round trip ticked.
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Post by toshtego on May 19, 2019 11:02:01 GMT -5
To appreciate what we have in this country, there is nothing so effective as to spend time in another, especially one of the old Communist controlled police states.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 19, 2019 11:29:17 GMT -5
Agreed on all points, except I have been listening to Ralph Stanley, but Mac Wiseman is still my favorite.
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Post by toshtego on May 19, 2019 12:49:43 GMT -5
Agreed on all points, except I have been listening to Ralph Stanley, but Mac Wiseman is still my favorite. It is Bill for me. Del is good. Ditto Ralph. |
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Post by garydh2000 on May 19, 2019 14:04:51 GMT -5
I tell my boys, and they are all grown up and independent, that in one generation all the freedom and liberty that we enjoy could be gone. I say God bless America. Other democracies around the world do not have a first amendment protecting their freedom of speech as do we.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 19, 2019 18:23:18 GMT -5
I tell my boys, and they are all grown up and independent, that in one generation all the freedom and liberty that we enjoy could be gone. I say God bless America. Other democracies around the world do not have a first amendment protecting their freedom of speech as do we. Or a 2nd amendment to protect the 1st. |
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Post by garydh2000 on May 19, 2019 19:59:02 GMT -5
I tell my boys, and they are all grown up and independent, that in one generation all the freedom and liberty that we enjoy could be gone. I say God bless America. Other democracies around the world do not have a first amendment protecting their freedom of speech as do we. Or a 2nd amendment to protect the 1st. Yes sir. |
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Post by monbla256 on May 19, 2019 21:04:29 GMT -5
Being the child of two immagrants ( my father from French Canada in the '20s, my mother from Scotland in the early '20s as my father ) who are examples of the immagrents we all came from. The new group of immagrents are not white and from Europe and we need to realize they are the same as the immagrents we came from. America is like the mongrel dog a mixture of many to where they are the best thing out there. I hope we remember this and stay a mongrel . 
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Post by trailboss on May 19, 2019 21:24:49 GMT -5
Being the child of two immagrants ( my father from French Canada in the '20s, my mother from Scotland in the early '20s as my father ) who are examples of the immagrents we all came from. The new group of immagrents are not white and from Europe and we need to realize they are the same as the immagrents we came from. America is like the mongrel dog a mixture of many to where they are the best thing out there. I hope we remember this and stay a mongrel .
The dynamics were certainly different back then, at least my perception based on reality of what took place...skin color has nothing to do with it. Back in the 20's, people in Canada and Scotland did not exploit loopholes based on bogus asylum claims and drag kids across the border by drug trafficking coyotes, and they were required to pass health examinations so as not to endanger the domestic population.....and in the 20's they wanted to assimilate and not take advantage of free education, healthcare and welfare that have evolved since the 20's. There are lawyer types embedded south of the border to educate people on what to say to get an instant foothold onto our soil....the first act upon entering, is to manipulate laws by lying about threats does not welcome people to what America is all about, a nation of laws. Discard the law, and flood the country with the lawlessness, we are lawless at that point. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 19, 2019 21:37:58 GMT -5
My family's immigrants were all on this continent by 1695,so I see it differently. 😁🤠
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Post by trailboss on May 19, 2019 21:58:40 GMT -5
I would just add...back in the 1920's assimilation was part of the deal for immigrants, in the current scenario we are seeing upwards of 100,000 people flooding across the border every month, with notion of such a concept, and no resources to educate the massive influx....Europe is dealing with that reality...Coming from other cultures with that mindset where individual liberties are not a reality, it puts our desire to not have others deem tobacco products as a danger to be expunged, as something they can be agreeable with. There is a movement to giving them voting rights, and it is all about the majority making decisions about our hobby...not a good thing.
Just raising a point that is worth consideration.
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Post by Stearmandriver on May 20, 2019 15:04:41 GMT -5
Perception is an interesting thing. Our ancestors came here, for the majority of us, no more than 400 years ago. They were very much not heroes, nor greatness embodied, to the folks who had already lived here for hundreds of generations. Nor did they "assimilate"; they in fact brought an entirely new culture to these shores and demanded that the folks who were already here accept this new way of life. Perhaps that knowledge is subconsciously why some here today fear a new wave of immigration.  America is, overall, a good place to live. It's certainly not the ONLY good place to live, and "best" is subjective. Nowhere is perfect, but identifying and working to fix issues doesn't mean one doesn't love their country, it means the opposite. We certainly aren't the only country in the world with state-granted freedom of speech. Just some additional thoughts to ponder. |
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Post by trailboss on May 20, 2019 15:34:08 GMT -5
My comment was referencing from the time we have had immigration laws, screening for diseases so as to protect the population, requirements of following the laws, and citizenship tests that were actually meaningful in educating them about civics and government.
I believe that it was from the 1920’s to the 1960’s that immigration was very low compared to today’s standards.... people still embraced and celebrated the cultures they came from, but they did assimilate, making us a better country.... it is a broken mess at this point.
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Post by Stearmandriver on May 20, 2019 16:21:59 GMT -5
My comment was referencing from the time we have had immigration laws, screening for diseases so as to protect the population, requirements of following the laws, and citizenship tests that were actually meaningful in educating them about civics and government. I believe that it was from the 1920’s to the 1960’s that immigration was very low compared to today’s standards.... people still embraced and celebrated the cultures they came from, but they did assimilate, making us a better country.... it is a broken mess at this point. Sorry if it seemed like I was replying specifically to you because we both used the word "perception"; I didn't mean it that way, just commenting generally on the thread, on how many people will see the issue many different ways. FWIW I agree with you that the immigration system from the 1st half of the 20th century is a good model for today. An Ellis Island - style clearinghouse at the south border would be a good start. From what I hear, many of today's immigrants would br thrilled to take part in such a system; a main reason there's so much illegal immigration today is that the path to citizenship (and legal worker status) is so legally convoluted, and most importantly, expensive. But I dunno, that's just one idea, I don't have answers either. Currently it is a "broken mess" for sure. |
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Post by puffy on May 20, 2019 16:57:52 GMT -5
A friend of mine married a lady from Germany..It took him 2 years,A trip to Atlanta,and quite a bit of money so she could be a permanent resident even though they were married..Maybe some attention needs to be given to this immigration thing.
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Post by trailboss on May 20, 2019 23:10:40 GMT -5
I hear you Larry.
A buddy of mine married a Ukrainian woman... it was not an easy, time wise and money wise to bring it to fruition. She grew up in an environment where it was told that the vegetable truck and bread truck would show up at the corner... a mile from the apartment... they would wait for hours... the truck rarely made it.
She emigrated, and immersed herself in history of the USA... although I consider myself well read she puts me to shame. She had tears in her eyes one night at their home... “You people do not realize what you have”... she was speaking collectively about the average citizen... she has a deep understanding of all of the founding documents of our nation that would give the average man in the street interview, a bumbling response when questioned.
America benefits from immigration when the rules are followed.
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