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Post by stone on Jun 13, 2019 7:06:54 GMT -5
I am continually amazed at the perception and expertise of many of you brothers here and I have a question? I have a million of them but we will try this one first
Is there a difference in smoking a tall/skinny bowl vs a short/fat bowl? Are there types of tobacco that do better in one vs the other? Moisture levels? Burn quality?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 7:51:09 GMT -5
Tall skinny bowl for most Virginia’s. A short fat wide chamber bowl for any Flake tobacco’s. Works best for me👌👍👍
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jun 13, 2019 7:52:26 GMT -5
I like Virginia's and VaPers in taller skinnier bowls.
When I smoked more englishes, they tasted better in a wide bowl.
YMMV
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Post by chasingembers on Jun 13, 2019 8:00:02 GMT -5
Blends taste the same to me in all different chamber varieties. My pipes were bought for aesthetics alone.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jun 13, 2019 9:14:18 GMT -5
I've gotta say, I don't notice a difference... However, I don't have that great a range of pipe shapes. Maybe if I had extremes I'd notice more.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jun 13, 2019 9:24:17 GMT -5
I'm with both Ted and Josh on this one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 11:14:20 GMT -5
In my experience: - Virginias are best in skinny bowls (<0.75");
- Burleys in short, wide bowls (>0.9"); and
- Latakia blends in medium width bowls (~0.82").
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Post by william on Jun 13, 2019 11:47:02 GMT -5
For me, it's also a matter of how the tobacco burns. I live in an incredibly high humidity area and smoke outside. And I really believe flake tobaccos burn slower and cooler than (for example, ribbon cut). Anyway--I tend to smoke Virginia flakes in a taller, skinnier bowl. That said, a bowl with a standard shape and size works for just about anything. I have trouble keeping a pot lit.
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Post by Dramatwist on Jun 13, 2019 12:08:54 GMT -5
I detect no difference. YMMV.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Jun 13, 2019 12:17:52 GMT -5
I detect no difference. YMMV. I've never found a difference, either. I happily smoke VA flake in a big wide bowl.
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Post by monbla256 on Jun 13, 2019 12:25:33 GMT -5
My preference has been for pots, bulldogs (bent and straight) and apples which all have short/wide bowls with a couple of taller bowled billiards and canadians and I've found that all smoke my blends the same. I smoke almost straight Va's and Va based Balkans and I've found that these blends really open up in these shorter/wide bowls. Since I don't smoke Burly's or Burly based blends nor Burly based Aros, I can't speak to how these smoke.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2019 13:47:47 GMT -5
For me, the best all around shape is a Billiard.
Fussy, problem tobaccos do best in a Pot.
If I want a tightly defined smoke and zero in on flavor, a Dublin does the job.
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Post by trailboss on Jun 13, 2019 20:56:16 GMT -5
I like Virginia's and VaPers in taller skinnier bowls. When I smoked more englishes, they tasted better in a wide bowl. YMMV Sums it up nicely for me.
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Post by dave g on Jun 13, 2019 21:57:35 GMT -5
Fold and stuff flakes seem to work well with a tall round chamber in my experience
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Post by jeffd on Jun 25, 2019 23:49:20 GMT -5
I like both. The wide bowls, like a 320EX Savinelli, give me one taste, and the chimney stacks (2 in or more) another. I love both experiences with every tobacco.
The stack seems to separate the flavors a little more I think, while the bowl is more of a blended taste. But its perhaps more subtle than that.
Stacks, IMO take a bit more care with the puff pacing and tamping.
Love them both.
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Post by sablebrush52 on Jun 27, 2019 1:41:44 GMT -5
I find it's less about the chamber shape than about the moisture level of the tobacco being smoked. I used to follow the long "skinny" rubric for Virginias and shorter wider bowls for English/Balkan/Oriental blends, but no longer do so. It just doesn't make any difference if you get the moisture level and packing right for the bowl you're smoking. I smoke for flavor, not for nicotine, and have spent a considerable amount of time and effort experimenting with moisture levels. The vast majority of the blends I enjoy give their best flavors when the tobacco is smoked very dry and when the tobacco is smoked so slowly that it is just barely simmering. Get that working and the rest doesn't really matter.
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Post by Mac on Jun 27, 2019 16:41:20 GMT -5
Since all the smoke from the ignited tobacco passes into an airway that's quite narrow, I don't see how a wide chamber can give separation of flavors more than a narrow one.
That said, if you believe that an X x Y chamber makes ABC smoke better, taste better, then it does for you. Otherwise, what the brush said.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 28, 2019 16:56:41 GMT -5
Blends taste the same to me in all different chamber varieties. My pipes were bought for aesthetics alone. I'm with this guy.
Also, when you consider that the draft hole is like the same(or close) on many pipes, or at the very least so much smaller than the bowl... I'd think that as well as your own personal draw really affect how a blend smokes? Maybe not. Just putting something out there for consideration.
I can see how the pot shape could be a player with flakes etc, as well as a windy day outdoors.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Jun 28, 2019 16:57:54 GMT -5
Since all the smoke from the ignited tobacco passes into an airway that's quite narrow, I don't see how a wide chamber can give separation of flavors more than a narrow one. That said, if you believe that an X x Y chamber makes ABC smoke better, taste better, then it does for you. Otherwise, what the brush said. Ha!
I posted before I saw your reply. Ditto. haha
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Post by trailboss on Jun 29, 2019 15:01:26 GMT -5
Josh is right...all Y'all are just wrong! It really is what works for you, always good to throw it out there though for discussion.
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Post by stone on Jun 30, 2019 9:39:11 GMT -5
I bought a pipe with a distinct oblong bowl. Should I be able to taste a bit of nirvana along with multiple individual tobaccos and toppings?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 22:48:37 GMT -5
I can't tell the difference in smoke quality, I just know I like huge bowls, as a 20 minute smoke is just annoying.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 12, 2019 22:54:54 GMT -5
Depending on the tobacco, I can get an hour smoke out of a tall skinny bowl.
Technique, grasshopper.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 22:56:01 GMT -5
I am getting some very long smoke times with the new Amphora Burley Blend. Teamed with a large bowl it is a good combo for watching movies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2019 10:47:42 GMT -5
Depending on the tobacco, I can get an hour smoke out of a tall skinny bowl. Technique, grasshopper. Yeah, but I'm just an ignorant a$$ human who can't seem to learn things such as "technique ". Those guys who hold the records for Smoking a pipe for 2 hours plus are not of this world. I wish there was someone local that could teach me how they do it.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 14, 2019 16:41:11 GMT -5
Depending on the tobacco, I can get an hour smoke out of a tall skinny bowl. Technique, grasshopper. Yeah, but I'm just an ignorant a$$ human who can't seem to learn things such as "technique ". Those guys who hold the records for Smoking a pipe for 2 hours plus are not of this world. I wish there was someone local that could teach me how they do it. I'm with you on this. I'd love to have a meeting with my good friends here and learn what I'm doing right or wrong.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 14, 2019 17:28:39 GMT -5
Depending on the tobacco, I can get an hour smoke out of a tall skinny bowl. Technique, grasshopper. Yeah, but I'm just an ignorant a$$ human who can't seem to learn things such as "technique ". Those guys who hold the records for Smoking a pipe for 2 hours plus are not of this world. I wish there was someone local that could teach me how they do it. Pretty sure I would fail badly in a slow smoke competition, and my hour long smokes in a tall skinny bowl doesn’t work with every tobacco... ain’t gonna happen with a shag cut or most loose leaf, more like a flake or plug. Kinda like burning split pine in the fireplace compared to an oak log. A lot of variables come into play.
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