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Post by trailboss on Jul 10, 2019 21:54:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 5:13:42 GMT -5
Ron, who was the carrier that delivered your A/C unit? It was FedEx but, I really don't think these were damaged in shipping, the damages to both boxes looked old. I think it was the warehouse. They look as if they had them some time and were probably on the bottom and these were the last of the stack or of what they had. The last one had even been opened for inspection it seems or it was a return. Both came out of a Sparks, NV. warehouse. The last one came from a Missouri warehouse which could also point to the first 2 being the last the Nevada warehouse had or they finally decided
to ship them from a closer location to avoid damage.
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Post by Darin on Jul 11, 2019 7:43:07 GMT -5
Whew ... wishing you smoother sailing from here on out!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 7:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by trailboss on Jul 11, 2019 9:35:29 GMT -5
Sometimes there is concealed damage, some shippers aren’t above trying to shift the liability on the carrier.. having said that, Fedex freight and Fedex Ground has an awful track record.... I hear from consignees how awful they are, no one else seems to come close.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 11, 2019 9:52:10 GMT -5
We had a palate of Apple notebooks come in to the warehouse in the late 80s that someone had driven a forklift through the stack before they shipped to us. Still don't know what to think about that.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 11, 2019 9:55:39 GMT -5
Sometimes there is concealed damage, some shippers aren’t above trying to shift the liability on the carrier.. having said that, Fedex freight and Fedex Ground has an awful track record.... I hear from consignees how awful they are, no one else seems to come close. Large printers usually ship new with little glass shock sensors on three sides. Most arrive with at least one broken. Thing is, if you try to break one yourself, it's almost impossible with any reasonable amount of force. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 11:11:53 GMT -5
Good luck from here on out, Ron on finishing your new shop space. I am looking forward to acquiring another of your creations one day.
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Post by monbla256 on Jul 11, 2019 11:41:42 GMT -5
No answers at that link!
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Post by trailboss on Jul 11, 2019 11:58:25 GMT -5
Large printers usually ship new with little glass shock sensors on three sides. Most arrive with at least one broken. Thing is, if you try to break one yourself, it's almost impossible with any reasonable amount of force. Yeah, a lot of the high dollar stuff has impact sensors and shock sensors... we get some military stuff that has a lot more technology than I am privy to. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 11, 2019 12:28:39 GMT -5
Large printers usually ship new with little glass shock sensors on three sides. Most arrive with at least one broken. Thing is, if you try to break one yourself, it's almost impossible with any reasonable amount of force. Yeah, a lot of the high dollar stuff has impact sensors and shock sensors... we get some military stuff that has a lot more technology than I am privy to. So I got an HP printer with 6 broken sensors. I called HP and they said to just use it. Do the shippers decide that those are a challenge they can't pass up? None of the stuff with sensors was shipped by FedEx or UPS. They were all on big freight carriers, like YOU! 😉😎🤠 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 12:47:29 GMT -5
Good luck from here on out, Ron on finishing your new shop space. I am looking forward to acquiring another of your creations one day. Thank you sir but, don't hold your breath  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 13:04:25 GMT -5
Large printers usually ship new with little glass shock sensors on three sides. Most arrive with at least one broken. Thing is, if you try to break one yourself, it's almost impossible with any reasonable amount of force. Yeah, a lot of the high dollar stuff has impact sensors and shock sensors... we get some military stuff that has a lot more technology than I am privy to. Eons ago when I was working on a dock for a now defunct trucking company we'd see "Tip and Tell's" on the sides or frigs and other items. They worked well and there was no way to cheat them but, I reckon the expense to put them on everything needing them is not cost effective enough for Big Business.
And talk about forklift drivers, once being one myself. I seen a guy hit a 55 gal. metal drum of chemicals going half into it spewing fumes that not only shut down the terminal but 5 square miles or more around us. Seen a yahoo once jump off his forklift while it was still rolling and watched it go right off the dock.
One incident was surprising that no one was injured, forklift running in and out loading a 20 foot half set and the trailer suddenly moves away from the dock leaving the forklift (and driver) in midair dropping straight down on all four tires to the ground. Bruised and shaken up but, that was all. A hausler (as we called them) had hooked up to the trailer thinking it was an empty to pull from the dock and spot in the yard. Anyway, I could go on forever with stories of dock antics.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 13:16:10 GMT -5
Yeah, a lot of the high dollar stuff has impact sensors and shock sensors... we get some military stuff that has a lot more technology than I am privy to. So I got an HP printer with 6 broken sensors. I called HP and they said to just use it. Do the shippers decide that those are a challenge they can't pass up? None of the stuff with sensors was shipped by FedEx or UPS. They were all on big freight carriers, like YOU! 😉😎🤠 Just goes to show ya that there's no one carrier out there that doesn't have it's idiot dock workers or drivers.
Which brings up another incident I seen. One of the dock workers unloading a trailer from "Mallinckrodt" full of mixed hazardous materials pops the lid ring on a cardboard canister marked Cyanide to slip the bill of lading under it. I wonder if he washed his hands before lunch or just licked'em after the Cheese Puffs.
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Post by trailboss on Jul 11, 2019 14:02:23 GMT -5
Yeah, a lot of the high dollar stuff has impact sensors and shock sensors... we get some military stuff that has a lot more technology than I am privy to. So I got an HP printer with 6 broken sensors. I called HP and they said to just use it. Do the shippers decide that those are a challenge they can't pass up? None of the stuff with sensors was shipped by FedEx or UPS. They were all on big freight carriers, like YOU! 😉😎🤠 Fedex Freight, and UPS freight are a lot bigger freight carriers than we are. We haul freight, but our prices are typically higher than theirs....we have screw ups also...stuff happens, but we haul a lot of big ugly stuff that destroy a dock supervisor's ability to cube out a trailer like standard pallets. It is not unusual to have 25 ft. pallets 48 inch wide by 40 inches tall. We used to haul a lot of copiers, Minolta liked to send their copiers on cardboard "pallets" that would fold like a cheap suit, other copier companies would use the pallets made from whatever wood China produces...laminated bamboo like stuff that crumbles. Send a copier on a cardboard pallet with an LTL carrier, which are all non air ride trailers, and just the weight of the copier collapses the crappy cardboard...no pockets for forks, and the base of the copier is on the deck...now you have to muscle it onto a pallet for delivery and looks like crap...If a shipper does not provide reasonably constructed shipments, the company I work for will reject hauling it and the liability and as a driver I have the authority to make that call at pickup on most pickups. We haul copiers, but far less than we used to do I am guessing for the reasons given. |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 11, 2019 14:12:12 GMT -5
So I got an HP printer with 6 broken sensors. I called HP and they said to just use it. Do the shippers decide that those are a challenge they can't pass up? None of the stuff with sensors was shipped by FedEx or UPS. They were all on big freight carriers, like YOU! 😉😎🤠 Just goes to show ya that there's no one carrier out there that doesn't have it's idiot dock workers or drivers.
Which brings up another incident I seen. One of the dock workers unloading a trailer from "Mallinckrodt" full of mixed hazardous materials pops the lid ring on a cardboard canister marked Cyanide to slip the bill of lading under it. I wonder if he washed his hands before lunch or just licked'em after the Cheese Puffs.
We used to haul some extremely nasty stuff...Inhalation hazard gases that were so deadly that they did not odorize it...if you breathed it in, you were dead anyway...the odorized stuff sometimes just warns you that you might be getting a new liver. My fourth stop was to a chemical company, I had small fire extinquisher sized bottle for him. He cracked the trailer door and used an electronic sniffer...I asked him why the new procedure was, and he told me that an Albuquerque driver opened a door on a trailer that had a bottle with a failed valve, he was dead on the spot. My three previous deliveries I was the canary in the coal mine that day I told him...after that, I bumped the loads to junior drivers...since then, we stopped hauling the really nasty stuff. Them cylinders should only be in airtight Pelican type cases as far as I am concerned for redundancy....too much to lose. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 11, 2019 14:42:54 GMT -5
So I got an HP printer with 6 broken sensors. I called HP and they said to just use it. Do the shippers decide that those are a challenge they can't pass up? None of the stuff with sensors was shipped by FedEx or UPS. They were all on big freight carriers, like YOU! 😉😎🤠 Fedex Freight, and UPS freight are a lot bigger freight carriers than we are. We haul freight, but our prices are typically higher than theirs....we have screw ups also...stuff happens, but we haul a lot of big ugly stuff that destroy a dock supervisor's ability to cube out a trailer like standard pallets. It is not unusual to have 25 ft. pallets 48 inch wide by 40 inches tall. We used to haul a lot of copiers, Minolta liked to send their copiers on cardboard "pallets" that would fold like a cheap suit, other copier companies would use the pallets made from whatever wood China produces...laminated bamboo like stuff that crumbles. Send a copier on a cardboard pallet with an LTL carrier, which are all non air ride trailers, and just the weight of the copier collapses the crappy cardboard...no pockets for forks, and the base of the copier is on the deck...now you have to muscle it onto a pallet for delivery and looks like crap...If a shipper does not provide reasonably constructed shipments, the company I work for will reject hauling it and the liability and as a driver I have the authority to make that call at pickup on most pickups. We haul copiers, but far less than we used to do I am guessing for the reasons given. Dang, Charlie, I was just yanking your chain. I should have said like Tom. ( Tsal) 🔗😛🤠 |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 11, 2019 15:45:56 GMT -5
I knew you were...not going to miss a chance to gripe about copiers.
They are so expensive, and prone to be damaged that I cannot understand why they don’t do a better job on packaging... maybe it is better now, been awhile since I hauled any.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 20:17:39 GMT -5
I knew you were...not going to miss a chance to gripe about copiers. They are so expensive, and prone to be damaged that I cannot understand why they don’t do a better job on packaging... maybe it is better now, been awhile since I hauled any. Long ago I was leased to Kodak and delivered all there film to the studios, sound and color labs. "Deluxe" always wanted there film unboxed and stacked about 5 foot high in single reels on a pallet, we had to strap them down to the pallets but, it couldn't be too tight or we damage the film. We also had to try and block each pallet in so it wouldn't move and they were around 500 pounds each pallet. Needless to say it was like moving about 25 five foot tall towers of Pisa, what a fricken night mare, specially making a left in traffic with no left hand signal light on to Highland from Melrose, Highland was humped (don't know what other to call it) right down the center making your tractor trailer lean extremely to the right. Ya had to take the turn so slow at times those Hollywood morons would almost try to drive right through you and act like it was your fault. Well, finally the inevitable happened. Trying to get through traffic I made my turn a little too fast and half the load feel over onto it's self. Tried to explain to them that the way they wanted it shipped was unsafe but, naturally they didn't want to listen but, they took the product anyway. Other then "Deluxe Labs" Universal, Paramont, Warner etc., etc. were great people to work with and ya occasionally got to see a movie star if you were lucky.  |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 11, 2019 20:31:50 GMT -5
Cool, Ron
I have had a complete load shift... that sucks!
The old trailers had no anchor/ tie down points, and some stuff shows no propensity ti shift, but when it does, it is a bad day.
I am not above making a lazy dockworker back strip my trailer to access the tie-down points before I depart.... I offer Kleenex to them when the crying starts.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 20:42:12 GMT -5
Cool, Ron I have had a complete load shift... that sucks! The old trailers had no anchor/ tie down points, and some stuff shows no propensity ti shift, but when it does, it is a bad day. I am not above making a lazy dockworker back strip my trailer to access the tie-down points before I depart.... I offer Kleenex to them when the crying starts. What's a tie down? Hell, some of those old bullnose trailers I had to drag you were lucky if the holes in the floor were smaller then your foot. LOL! I remember some old "Red Arrow" trailers we got when we bought them out, the landing gears were set back almost twice as far because all their tractors were 3 axle with stationary fifth-wheels. Had to be real careful loading them unhooked because you couldn't put even 5000 pounds in the nose or they'd nose dive on ya ..........I know, got suspended for a week because I picked up a loaded and sealed trailer that nosed in the yard. Wasn't my fault, I didn't load and it was sealed, they loaded it on a inclined dock and double stacked it in the nose, jars of honey no less.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 11, 2019 20:55:01 GMT -5
We have had 3 truck drivers killed in Houston in the last 2 months. At least 2 of them went off of bridges trying to avoid bad drivers.
My dad was a truck driver, he hauled dynamite, drill pipe and shot hole casing. You really don't want that load to shift. After he became foreman he would go to the yard on Sunday evenings to check the loads that were going out early Monday morning. I went with him a few times and I remember him climbing on the loads and redoing the chains. I got to go on the overhead crane once when he unloaded and reloaded a big stack of drill pipe by himself. They don't make many men like him anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2019 21:12:08 GMT -5
We have had 3 truck drivers killed in Houston in the last 2 months. At least 2 of them went off of bridges trying to avoid bad drivers. My dad was a truck driver, he hauled dynamite, drill pipe and shot hole casing. You really don't want that load to shift. After he became foreman he would go to the yard on Sunday evenings to check the loads that were going out early Monday morning. I went with him a few times and I remember him climbing on the loads and redoing the chains. I got to go on the overhead crane once when he unloaded and reloaded a big stack of drill pipe by himself. They don't make many men like him anymore. Had to do my share of chains and binders when working flatbed, not so fun for me because only being 160 pounds soaking wet I had to have a cheater bar as long as I was tall. LOL! There still out there, ya just see'em pulling them and not load'en em. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 11, 2019 21:19:02 GMT -5
We have had 3 truck drivers killed in Houston in the last 2 months. At least 2 of them went off of bridges trying to avoid bad drivers. My dad was a truck driver, he hauled dynamite, drill pipe and shot hole casing. You really don't want that load to shift. After he became foreman he would go to the yard on Sunday evenings to check the loads that were going out early Monday morning. I went with him a few times and I remember him climbing on the loads and redoing the chains. I got to go on the overhead crane once when he unloaded and reloaded a big stack of drill pipe by himself. They don't make many men like him anymore. Had to do my share of chains and binders when working flatbed, not so fun for me because only being 160 pounds soaking wet I had to have a cheater bar as long as I was tall. LOL! There still out there, ya just see'em pulling them and not load'en em. You're about the same size as my dad. How can anyone tighten chain binders without a lever extension? I am 6' 238lbs and I would need one just to be sure. |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 11, 2019 21:31:24 GMT -5
Before I started driving, that was the story of a buddy’s dad.... he grew up without a dad because of that sacrifice.
I made a decision when I first started driving that I would condition myself not to react so as to not kill myself if someone decides to be stupid... no going into the canyon for me.
About three months ago, a guy in a super duty decided to play games with me after he missed an opportunity to cut between me an another truck I was overtaking... I was suppose to stop ( in his mind) so that he could trim my bumper. A piece up the road, he decided to cut in front of me and hit his brakes, he almost had a Mack bulldog shoved up his rectum he chickened out when he saw I wasn’t buying his goods... all on film.
Regardless of the film, I have a lock on retirement, the day after I stop driving I start drawing a pension... really no downside for me with idiots like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2019 6:42:10 GMT -5
Had to do my share of chains and binders when working flatbed, not so fun for me because only being 160 pounds soaking wet I had to have a cheater bar as long as I was tall. LOL! There still out there, ya just see'em pulling them and not load'en em. You're about the same size as my dad. How can anyone tighten chain binders without a lever extension? I am 6' 238lbs and I would need one just to be sure. Oh, you have to have one, what I was trying to point out is that the cheater was as big as I was. I've seen guys use a lot shorter ones. |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jul 12, 2019 7:05:37 GMT -5
 Did the flatbed thing pipe, dynamite, blasting caps, for a couple years, thought raising teenagers would make your arse pucker, was I Wrong. Big respect for truck drivers.
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Post by Tsal on Jul 13, 2019 22:23:42 GMT -5
Fedex Freight, and UPS freight are a lot bigger freight carriers than we are. We haul freight, but our prices are typically higher than theirs....we have screw ups also...stuff happens, but we haul a lot of big ugly stuff that destroy a dock supervisor's ability to cube out a trailer like standard pallets. It is not unusual to have 25 ft. pallets 48 inch wide by 40 inches tall. We used to haul a lot of copiers, Minolta liked to send their copiers on cardboard "pallets" that would fold like a cheap suit, other copier companies would use the pallets made from whatever wood China produces...laminated bamboo like stuff that crumbles. Send a copier on a cardboard pallet with an LTL carrier, which are all non air ride trailers, and just the weight of the copier collapses the crappy cardboard...no pockets for forks, and the base of the copier is on the deck...now you have to muscle it onto a pallet for delivery and looks like crap...If a shipper does not provide reasonably constructed shipments, the company I work for will reject hauling it and the liability and as a driver I have the authority to make that call at pickup on most pickups. We haul copiers, but far less than we used to do I am guessing for the reasons given. Dang, Charlie, I was just yanking your chain. I should have said like Tom. ( Tsal) 🔗😛🤠 😂 I love a good fired up whiny trucker. |
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Post by Tsal on Jul 13, 2019 22:26:59 GMT -5
Bottom line is shite happens and nobody cares, that's what the parts department and techs are for.. they have to eat too.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 13, 2019 22:29:30 GMT -5
Bottom line is shite happens and nobody cares, that's what the parts department and techs are for.. they have to eat too. There he is! (cue possum) 😎🤠 |
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