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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 16:24:41 GMT -5
Well, let me tell ya what I've been putting up with as of late.
First, after further calculation I found that I screwed up calculating the square footage of my shop forgetting to figure in square footage of the peaked ceiling. Figure out that the 6000 BTU A/C unit I installed is half the size I need, so I ordered a 12,000 BTU unit. Upon arrival I find it was damaged shifting the compressor at an angle. Not wanting any problems I had it shipped back for replacement. When the replacement showed up today I find that is also damaged (ground prong broken off of plug.) Specialized plug with a breaker built in, not going to even try and replace it and void warranty, shipped it back. The before return they just refunded me $50 as a discount and shipped another. This time they told me they have to refund all my money, then recharge my card the original cost and refund me $100. Gees! Can they possibly make it anymore difficult, confusing and STUPID? Okay, it's on it's way so we'll see if 3 times a charm. No! not done yet. Thursday I went out and picked up some plywood, pegboard and 2 x 4's for my bench work etc. at Lowe's which is the closest to me, 30 miles away. The next day I start cutting up some 2 x 4's for the frame work of the bench, cut two lengths 2 foot long off an 8 footer, should have 4 feet left right? Nope! Got less then 4 foot by about 6 inches or more. No! I didn't screw up measuring, after checking all 2 x 4's they were ALL under length, even the 10 footers. When picking the lumber up I asked one of the workers in the lumber area "where are the 8 and 10 foot 2 x 4's interior grade" and he pointed to them right next to where he was standing. Forgetting my tape I didn't check them like usual and just loaded them up (you know where this is going). Yep, got those cockamamie short cut ones, reckon they use them for building metric homes or something. What ever there used for its B.S. Well, I ended up driving all the way back and exchanging them and he gave me a dollar off per board for the trouble. Remember to take a tape, well at least me, cause I haven't a clue what the hell 92-5/8" or 104-5/8" means without one. And hey! the months not even over yet, can't wait to see what is in store me just around the bend.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 8, 2019 17:24:48 GMT -5
92 5/8" are pre-cut wall studs. We never use them and just get full 8'. I've never worked with anyone that actually bought those. The chance that whatever you're building is going to need that exact same measurements is pretty minimal. It does look good on paper though.
Maybe on brand new construction for preform walls. For 8' walls they're still short.
Itll get better Ron, all things shall pass.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 17:30:32 GMT -5
Things have got to get better for you Ron!! I’ve learned years ago never trust any one when choosing the proper size of wood needed for a project......I always carried a tape measure. The A/C units being damaged is not your fault by any means, when using an A/C it’s always better to have one a bit over sized as far as BTU’s. It will end up cheaper running the unit in the long run.
May the rest of July be a much better one and by August your able to make your first pipe. I give you a lot of credit for not giving up. If I had no health issues I would have showed up at your door and given you a hand. From this day forward your luck is going to change 👍👍👍👍
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Post by ben888 on Jul 8, 2019 17:42:40 GMT -5
Well... Have you ever seen 2x4 that is REALLY 2x4?
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 8, 2019 17:51:12 GMT -5
Yes, in older homes I run in to "real" 2x4s. It makes for extra work because in order to make the new ones work you have to rip down a 2x6 or put a new 2x4 with another ripped 2x4.... to do it the correct way anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 18:09:03 GMT -5
92 5/8" are pre-cut wall studs. We never use them and just get full 8'. I've never worked with anyone that actually bought those. The chance that whatever you're building is going to need that exact same measurements is pretty minimal. It does look good on paper though. Maybe on brand new construction for preform walls. For 8' walls they're still short. Itll get better Ron, all things shall pass. Never heard of such a thing, precut studs, more like precut stubs, what will they try to sell next? |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 8, 2019 18:12:26 GMT -5
Yes, in older homes I run in to "real" 2x4s. It makes for extra work because in order to make the new ones work you have to rip down a 2x6 or put a new 2x4 with another ripped 2x4.... to do it the correct way anyway. my first house was built in '47, and every piece of rough sawn wood in the joint was its proper measured L/W/H. If it was a 2x6, it was a 2x6. Horse hair in the walls, too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 18:18:26 GMT -5
Well... Have you ever seen 2x4 that is REALLY 2x4? That's a different story and I can deal with that cause for one, I know that and two, I don't try and cut four 1 x 2's out of my 2 x 4's but, length is another thing. That has never changed, until recently I reckon.
Oh! and technically you couldn't cut four 1 x 2's out of a true 2 x 4 anyway because of the 1/8" blade thickness would catch up to ya on the last cut but, ya know what I mean.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 18:23:54 GMT -5
Yes, in older homes I run in to "real" 2x4s. It makes for extra work because in order to make the new ones work you have to rip down a 2x6 or put a new 2x4 with another ripped 2x4.... to do it the correct way anyway. my first house was built in '47, and every piece of rough sawn wood in the joint was its proper measured L/W/H. If it was a 2x6, it was a 2x6. Horse hair in the walls, too. Yeah, Nowadays they blame it on shrinkage. I reckon they put'em in the pool after cutting them. LOL! They really must think our brains are shrinking to believe that cockeyed excuse. How about drying the lumber before cutting it? Nope! can't do that, then they wouldn't be able to screw us out of money. Thank you big business (waving only using my middle finger)!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 18:26:41 GMT -5
After a frustrating week, I recommend a stiff drink and a pipe full of strong tobacco, Ron. Hang in there. Things will get better.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Jul 8, 2019 19:57:02 GMT -5
Yes, in older homes I run in to "real" 2x4s. It makes for extra work because in order to make the new ones work you have to rip down a 2x6 or put a new 2x4 with another ripped 2x4.... to do it the correct way anyway. my first house was built in '47, and every piece of rough sawn wood in the joint was its proper measured L/W/H. If it was a 2x6, it was a 2x6. Horse hair in the walls, too. Want to get mad? Try driving a nail through some of that old wood. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jul 8, 2019 20:09:45 GMT -5
Oh, I imagine. That stuff is as solid and packed full of sap as possible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 20:26:44 GMT -5
Cant beat old hard yellow pine now days they pass off fast growing fir. I don't much care for MDF plywood over the good stuff. Those old homes were built to last so you have to wonder about some of the newer stuff they do. Only time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 20:43:08 GMT -5
After a frustrating week, I recommend a stiff drink and a pipe full of strong tobacco, Ron. Hang in there. Things will get better. As stiff as my drinks get anymore is a strong cup O Joe, which I certainly pertook of with a good bowl of ODF. LOL! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 20:51:15 GMT -5
my first house was built in '47, and every piece of rough sawn wood in the joint was its proper measured L/W/H. If it was a 2x6, it was a 2x6. Horse hair in the walls, too. Want to get mad? Try driving a nail through some of that old wood. Yeah, most the stuff they pass off now days is more like balsa wood, kept sinking screws half way through the dadburn 2 x 4's. Set the drill motor at 8 and not flush'em, set it to 10 and go half way through'em.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jul 9, 2019 5:39:31 GMT -5
Ron, that really sucks. I can't believe that you've had to send that unit back twice already - that's bad craic.
I'm sure you won't forget your tape next time you go buying wood. Hey, maybe that's the good that's come out of this.
Here's to a better rest of the month.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2019 5:47:13 GMT -5
Ron has a Kick butt drill despite the other adventures.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 9, 2019 9:38:34 GMT -5
I have bought the pre cut studs for storage sheds when I could figure out ahead of time how many I needed. For more complex projects it's not worth it. If I knew ahead of time how much trouble my projects would be I would have never done anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 10:48:36 GMT -5
Well it seems things are coming around to my side now, the A/C unit was delivered today without a scratch on it. With any luck I'll be installing it in a few days. Still going to let it sit level for at least 24hrs before putting it to work, never know what position it sat in on the way here.
Now if the lathe would just show up I'd be batting a thousand. Until then I still have quite a bit to do in the shop, bring all the packed materials and like in, prepare the bench top (sand and finish), run air lines and dust collector piping, etc. Lord will I be happy when it's all done......and so will my back! |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jul 10, 2019 11:06:43 GMT -5
Wish I could be there to help you...the extent of my help would be to make you coffee...my carpentry work would only set you back a couple months...but you have my best wishes and daily prayers for your success in every thing you do...looking forward to seeing your first new pipes, and been saving money for one of your masterpieces.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 11:26:14 GMT -5
Wish I could be there to help you...the extent of my help would be to make you coffee...my carpentry work would only set you back a couple months...but you have my best wishes and daily prayers for your success in every thing you do...looking forward to seeing your first new pipes, and been saving money for one of your masterpieces. You obviously haven't seen my carpentry work LOL! And thank you sir, I can use as many as I can get. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 10, 2019 11:31:16 GMT -5
Well it seems things are coming around to my side now, the A/C unit was delivered today without a scratch on it. With any luck I'll be installing it in a few days. Still going to let it sit level for at least 24hrs before putting it to work, never know what position it sat in on the way here.
Now if the lathe would just show up I'd be batting a thousand. Until then I still have quite a bit to do in the shop, bring all the packed materials and like in, prepare the bench top (sand and finish), run air lines and dust collector piping, etc. Lord will I be happy when it's all done......and so will my back! I didn't think about that. My new AC has been sitting on its side since I put it on the back porch. I was too tired to think about sitting it right-side up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 12:39:50 GMT -5
Well it seems things are coming around to my side now, the A/C unit was delivered today without a scratch on it. With any luck I'll be installing it in a few days. Still going to let it sit level for at least 24hrs before putting it to work, never know what position it sat in on the way here.
Now if the lathe would just show up I'd be batting a thousand. Until then I still have quite a bit to do in the shop, bring all the packed materials and like in, prepare the bench top (sand and finish), run air lines and dust collector piping, etc. Lord will I be happy when it's all done......and so will my back! I didn't think about that. My new AC has been sitting on its side since I put it on the back porch. I was too tired to think about sitting it right-side up. Uh Oh, better set it upright soon. A lot of folks don't know that the oil in the compressor will flow into the upper lines with the Freon and if turned on before that oil has time to drain back it'll mix with it and be nil. Better let it sit upright for at least as many days as it's been sitting on it's side to be safe I'd say sir.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 10, 2019 12:57:53 GMT -5
Well, I guess I will have to wait at least a month before I can turn it on, but at least I can get it installed. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 16:06:41 GMT -5
24 hours is good Ron69. To RD I would install the AC wait 24 hours and then work in cool comfort on the other projects inside the shop. I am to fat for summer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 17:33:19 GMT -5
24 hours is good Ron69. To RD I would install the AC wait 24 hours and then work in cool comfort on the other projects inside the shop. I am to fat for summer. I'm replacing a smaller unit so I'll be working in cool anyway but, will have to do it in a timely manner because I already have temperature temperamental items in it. |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 10, 2019 17:51:37 GMT -5
Ron, who was the carrier that delivered your A/C unit?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 18:17:27 GMT -5
Well RD it is pretty nice in the morning in our neck of the woods anything after lunch is just brutal with the high humidity. RD's local delivery guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 21:10:26 GMT -5
Sounds normal to me.
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Post by monbla256 on Jul 10, 2019 21:41:50 GMT -5
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