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Post by Plainsman on Feb 8, 2022 8:53:22 GMT -5
I rarely sell a gun. But a friend need a anti-bear gat for archery elk hunting and I sold him a NIB Ruger Redhawk 45 Colt/45 Auto for $750. I know I know, but he’s a friend. My favorite anti-bruin defense weapon was a Colt Heritage Walker. I figured it worked something like this. Load about 55 grains of fffg behind a hard lead ball in each chamber of the cylinder. As the bear gets close, open fire. If the ball does not modify his trajectory, perhaps the flaming muzzle blast will ignite the old boar's greasy fur. A hot bear is a distracted bear. I could slip away. Anyway, that was the theory. Never practiced. Your plan may well have worked. Hard cast balls do not seal the chambers as well as pure lead, so the chance of a multi-chamber detonation was pretty good. 330gr of 3F would have definitely gotten the bear’s attention. Not to mention 6 balls going… somewhere.  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 9, 2022 23:12:44 GMT -5
My favorite anti-bruin defense weapon was a Colt Heritage Walker. I figured it worked something like this. Load about 55 grains of fffg behind a hard lead ball in each chamber of the cylinder. As the bear gets close, open fire. If the ball does not modify his trajectory, perhaps the flaming muzzle blast will ignite the old boar's greasy fur. A hot bear is a distracted bear. I could slip away. Anyway, that was the theory. Never practiced. Your plan may well have worked. Hard cast balls do not seal the chambers as well as pure lead, so the chance of a multi-chamber detonation was pretty good. 330gr of 3F would have definitely gotten the bear’s attention. Not to mention 6 balls going… somewhere. The bear fat mixed with parifin seals them pretty well from flash over. Even if 98% of it get blown out there's still enough to seal the chambers. Of course, you need a bear for that. 😜 I used Union Pacific wheel bearing grease. |
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Post by don on Feb 9, 2022 23:38:10 GMT -5
I used to grease the chambers mouths on my 1860 Army. Then I discovered greased felt over powder wads and never looked back. Less mess and it seals the powder column under the ball.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 10, 2022 8:09:01 GMT -5
I used graphite grease. Messy but effective. The Ol’ Timers seldom messed with such stuff b/c they used pure lead and lots of lever pressure.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 10, 2022 22:10:54 GMT -5
I used to grease the chambers mouths on my 1860 Army. Then I discovered greased felt over powder wads and never looked back. Less mess and it seals the powder column under the ball. I discovered that after I gave my 1858 to my sorry BIL. |
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Post by toshtego on Feb 11, 2022 11:14:58 GMT -5
I used graphite grease. Messy but effective. The Ol’ Timers seldom messed with such stuff b/c they used pure lead and lots of lever pressure. And they did have the occasional chain fire. I used Crisco and then Bore Butter. |
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 11, 2022 18:49:16 GMT -5
If you shoot a C&B revolver long enough you WILL eventually have a leaker. Somewhere I still have the ball I pried out of my 1860 Army loading lever ram. Never heard Hickock had that problem though.
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Post by toshtego on Feb 11, 2022 21:38:59 GMT -5
If you shoot a C&B revolver long enough you WILL eventually have a leaker. Somewhere I still have the ball I pried out of my 1860 Army loading lever ram. Never heard Hickock had that problem though. Perhaps he did not live long enough? |
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Post by username on Feb 11, 2022 22:29:11 GMT -5
Cap and ball was a lot of fun when I did cowboy action shooting with my grandparents. I used to shoot plainsman class. Two cap and ball revolvers. Black powder loads in for rifle and shotgun. Had a great time.
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Post by Gypo on Jul 24, 2022 9:27:24 GMT -5
Pre model 27 3.5 inch barrel not original grips and looks like front orange or white plastic like front sight insert has been changed to brass or gold. Most excellent condition case coloring on hammer and trigger are awesome. Target style hammer and trigger. Been on my list for years and finely got it. Only two pistols left on my list both Smiths a pre model 29 and a model 48 prefer no dash but dash one, two or three would be okay. I was on the trail of this one for over a decade and finely got it.
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Post by toshtego on Jul 24, 2022 16:05:50 GMT -5
Cap and ball was a lot of fun when I did cowboy action shooting with my grandparents. I used to shoot plainsman class. Two cap and ball revolvers. Black powder loads in for rifle and shotgun. Had a great time. Cap and Ball revolvers are fun to shoot. I sure enjoyed mine. Never got to a CAS event. Joined SASS in the early 1990s when the founders served as Pallbearers for Roy Rogers at his funeral. Thought that was an interesting organization. What it evolved into was not for me. Many of the members in southern California were a bit hard to be around. It is good sport for those who enjoy the group. |
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Post by username on Jul 24, 2022 16:14:01 GMT -5
Cap and ball was a lot of fun when I did cowboy action shooting with my grandparents. I used to shoot plainsman class. Two cap and ball revolvers. Black powder loads in for rifle and shotgun. Had a great time. Cap and Ball revolvers are fun to shoot. I sure enjoyed mine. Never got to a CAS event. Joined SASS in the early 1990s when the founders served as Pallbearers for Roy Rogers at his funeral. Thought that was an interesting organization. What it evolved into was not for me. Many of the members in southern California were a bit hard to be around. It is good sport for those who enjoy the group. I heard its gone down hill a lot but i havent been following it in a long time last I read they had power levels now. I don't get that/ for me the fun to me was dress up and play cowboy while shooting with my grandparents and parents. |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 24, 2022 16:29:14 GMT -5
Kinda, sorta related to revolvers. In the early 2000's, a mutual friend took me out to dinner and met Jack Weaver in Reno (the Weaver Stance), he was a really kind person and it was where I just did a lot of listening and not a lot of talking. I asked him for his autograph, and he said that he could do me one better. When we went to the parking lot he handed me a cardboard tube containing a poster...that was pretty cool. Under his left elbow is Colonel Jeff Cooper. Some day I will have to take it out of cardboard and frame it. |
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Post by urbino on Jul 24, 2022 17:29:38 GMT -5
Pre model 27 3.5 inch barrel not original grips and looks like front orange or white plastic like front sight insert has been changed to brass or gold. Most excellent condition case coloring on hammer and trigger are awesome. Target style hammer and trigger. Been on my list for years and finely got it. Only two pistols left on my list both Smiths a pre model 29 and a model 48 prefer no dash but dash one, two or three would be okay. I was on the trail of this one for over a decade and finely got it. Nice, Ted! Congrats on the find! |
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Post by don on Oct 17, 2022 6:10:40 GMT -5
Reviving the revolver thread. My K22. I shoot this piece nearly every time I hit the range these days. Very enjoyable. I think it is the third K-frame 22 I have owned. This one gets handed down to my grandson when I depart this smoking lounge one day.  |
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 17, 2022 7:57:28 GMT -5
M17 or M18?
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Post by adui on Oct 17, 2022 11:55:29 GMT -5
Nice looking revolver Don.
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Post by don on Oct 17, 2022 17:43:33 GMT -5
Actually pre-model number. But they started stamping them with the 17, later in the year. |
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 17, 2022 18:11:30 GMT -5
Pre model Excellent. I have had “gurus” tell me that ONLY the 6” pre- and post-model # “K-22s” were the Real Thing. Not true. There were a very few 5-inchers that now bring super-premium collector prices. And… the official name of the M18 is “K22 Combat Masterpiece.”
In 1985 I checked with a dealer I visited occasionally looking for a Smith M60 for my wife. He had one.. And right next to it were a lovely pair: an M17 and an M18, both in near new condition. $180 each. All three went home with me, with Buyer Elation rather than Remorse.
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 17, 2022 21:41:19 GMT -5
And BTW… I will not buy a new S&W revolver. I have only one: a so-called “J-frame Magnum”— An “M60 Pro” in .357. I don’t use it with .357s. The K-frame couldn’t handle it, so no J-frame is up to it whatever they choose to call it. It’s been back to the factory twice— for stupid stuff like a rear sight improperly installed so it falls off. The old S&W, a masterpiece of engineering built by master craftsmen, is dead. I have enough Smiths that I don’t need to buy anymore, but if I do it will be pre-lock (and preferably pre-1990) all the way.
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Post by Gypo on Oct 17, 2022 22:12:54 GMT -5
Pre model Excellent. I have had “gurus” tell me that ONLY the 6” pre- and post-model # “K-22s” were the Real Thing. Not true. There were a very few 5-inchers that now bring super-premium collector prices. And… the official name of the M18 is “K22 Combat Masterpiece.” In 1985 I checked with a dealer I visited occasionally looking for a Smith M60 for my wife. He had one.. And right next to it were a lovely pair: an M17 and an M18, both in near new condition. $180 each. All three went home with me, with Buyer Elation rather than Remorse. You and I agree on that Pre model Smiths are the best! I also have a M18-3 and two pre model 17s ,3 of 17-6 full underlug 4,6 and 8 3/8 |
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Post by toshtego on Oct 18, 2022 15:49:20 GMT -5
Pre model Excellent. I have had “gurus” tell me that ONLY the 6” pre- and post-model # “K-22s” were the Real Thing. Not true. There were a very few 5-inchers that now bring super-premium collector prices. And… the official name of the M18 is “K22 Combat Masterpiece.” In 1985 I checked with a dealer I visited occasionally looking for a Smith M60 for my wife. He had one.. And right next to it were a lovely pair: an M17 and an M18, both in near new condition. $180 each. All three went home with me, with Buyer Elation rather than Remorse. You and I agree on that Pre model Smiths are the best! I also have a M18-3 and two pre model 17s ,3 of 17-6 full underlug 4,6 and 8 3/8 I had couple of S&W Model 1917s. I was quite fond of them and had every confidence. I carried one for a time on a security job for a well known bank long popular among thieves with and without neckties. That is something I share with Ayoob, the 1917 as a duty gun. They usually do not pass official scrutiny as the institutional world had long moved onto .357. by the early 1970s. I, too, gave my wife a Model 60. She much prefered the size and grip of the Colt Detective Special. |
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 19, 2022 19:13:03 GMT -5
The 1917 Colts were rushed-up stand-ins for the relatively scarce (at the war’s inception for us) 1911. They were quick-mods of the New Service and as such had huge ergonomics and atrocious DA triggers. I had a New Service 7-1/2” in 44-40 and never could get close to warming up to the thing. It matched my 92 SRC but I never really used it that way. I have no doubt that the S&W was superior in every way. It was made as a commercial version until the late 40’s. I’ve never handled one.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 19, 2022 19:20:30 GMT -5
I handled a S&W Model 25 once. Then I wanted to own it, but alas $$$$.
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 19, 2022 19:25:57 GMT -5
I have one I’ll sell ya!
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 19, 2022 19:27:06 GMT -5
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 19, 2022 22:06:00 GMT -5
$950. Original box. Excellent to Like New. 45AUTO. Jerry Miculek’s favorite.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 19, 2022 22:11:56 GMT -5
$950. Original box. Excellent to Like New. 45AUTO. Jerry Miculek’s favorite. I'm sure that's a great deal. I am past that stage now and I have way too many guns. |
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Post by trailboss on Oct 20, 2022 7:32:48 GMT -5
Everytime I see shooters like Jerry M. show their skills, I am simply amazed.
On an episode of Shooting USA, Bob Munden took an unfired Colt snubby from a box, and with one shot broke a balloon at a distance to where it was barely visible from where I was sitting.
A husband and wife on there was pretty crazy with their abilities as was the guy that shot for Benelli.
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Post by Plainsman on Oct 20, 2022 8:35:09 GMT -5
$950. Original box. Excellent to Like New. 45AUTO. Jerry Miculek’s favorite. I'm sure that's a great deal. I am past that stage now and I have way too many guns. Not to worry. I know exactly how you feel! |
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