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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2019 21:25:19 GMT -5
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Post by toshtego on Oct 30, 2019 0:50:43 GMT -5
Thank you. I appreciate those links. Giving some thought to loading my own. Did that in .45-70 years ago. I see Lapua does load this cartridge. They use an all copper bullet so I will not lead up the landscape. Hornady bullets was always my choice for loading. |
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Oct 30, 2019 16:21:31 GMT -5
Ammo? Load your own and you will be much happier! Sure it takes a lil bit to find the correct load but once you do even the lower grade rifles will shoot much better. Having said that............ any of the higher grade ammo purchased from a reputable company should just fine. you can never go wrong with anything made by Lapua www.lapua.com/ammunition/sport-shooting-ammunition/ Did you see any 8x57 ammo on that page? Not to mention the gold-plated prices. I didn't see any 8X57 which is a bummer. I know that the prices are high and people gripe about it the first time but I rarely hear them bitch after they shoot the first box and their groups tighten up substantially |
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 30, 2019 16:23:55 GMT -5
A lot of places that advertise the 8mm ammo don't really have any when you want to buy it.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 30, 2019 16:42:17 GMT -5
Did you see any 8x57 ammo on that page? Not to mention the gold-plated prices. I didn't see any 8X57 which is a bummer. I know that the prices are high and people gripe about it the first time but I rarely hear them bitch after they shoot the first box and their groups tighten up substantially Their 8 X 57 ammo uses an all copper bullet. That has to be pricey. |
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Post by toshtego on May 14, 2023 22:17:11 GMT -5
The stock on this old Polish made Mauser pattern 8 X 57 was cut down to accommodate the small stature Spaniards to whom the rifle was given during the Spanish Civil War. I find it annoying, like wielding a BB Gun. So, today, I added stock spacers ordered from Brownells. Even a 3/4 inch extension helps the rifle to fit me. Not planning any assaults but we have a pack of feral dogs roaming. I found the skeleton of the ewe I raised from a lamb which dogs killed last October. No more of that if I can help it.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 14, 2023 22:39:57 GMT -5
The local gun club is having a Normandy shoot on June 6. Mostly Garands, Mausers, and SMLEs, but any military firearm is welcome.
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Post by toshtego on May 15, 2023 7:53:29 GMT -5
The local gun club is having a Normandy shoot on June 6. Mostly Garands, Mausers, and SMLEs, but any military firearm is welcome. Sorry I no longer have the Lebel 8mm from my boyhood. Fun rifle, about four feet long it seemed to me at the time. Ditto the Mauser, Garand, SMLE, '03-A3. all gone. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 15, 2023 11:44:52 GMT -5
The local gun club is having a Normandy shoot on June 6. Mostly Garands, Mausers, and SMLEs, but any military firearm is welcome. Sorry I no longer have the Lebel 8mm from my boyhood. Fun rifle, about four feet long it seemed to me at the time. Ditto the Mauser, Garand, SMLE, '03-A3. all gone. Yeah, I've had all those too and they are long gone. I still have a Mauser, albeit in 45-70. |
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Post by toshtego on May 15, 2023 15:16:00 GMT -5
Sorry I no longer have the Lebel 8mm from my boyhood. Fun rifle, about four feet long it seemed to me at the time. Ditto the Mauser, Garand, SMLE, '03-A3. all gone. Yeah, I've had all those too and they are long gone. I still have a Mauser, albeit in 45-70. Single shot or does the magazine hold those fat cartridges? Maybe your Mauser was of the originals in 11mm? |
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Post by Plainsman on May 15, 2023 17:52:31 GMT -5
I don’t allow older military rifles on the place for deer if they are still using the original sights. It will never end well.
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Post by Ronv69 on May 15, 2023 18:01:41 GMT -5
Yeah, I've had all those too and they are long gone. I still have a Mauser, albeit in 45-70. Single shot or does the magazine hold those fat cartridges? Maybe your Mauser was of the originals in 11mm? I believe it holds 4 or 5. Those old rounds were pretty fat too. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 15, 2023 18:02:25 GMT -5
I don’t allow older military rifles on the place for deer if they are still using the original sights. It will never end well. 1-4 Bushnell, German #4. |
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Post by toshtego on May 15, 2023 18:16:59 GMT -5
I don’t allow older military rifles on the place for deer if they are still using the original sights. It will never end well. True. However, my Remington made 1903-A3 had a peep site which was spot on for my younger eyes. 100 to perhaps 150 yards is about it with the open sites and that is with better eyes than I have now. That is unless one is a Marine in which case sites are not needed  because Marines always hit center of Maggie's Drawers. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 15, 2023 18:26:50 GMT -5
I have peep sights on all my rifles that don't have scopes. Good out to 125 yards with the SKS and the 94 Winchester. 29 inch sight radius on the Buffalo Rifle makes it good to at least 300 yards for hunting purposes, though I wouldn't use it at that range.
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Post by Plainsman on May 15, 2023 18:39:25 GMT -5
The worst offender was the ‘91 Mosin. When down flat the sight was set for 400m. One guy, not knowing what he was doing, destroyed the upper member of one of my target buts because his rounds were going 18” high.
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Post by toshtego on May 16, 2023 8:48:21 GMT -5
I have been reading on-line the complicated history of the Polish Mauser Pattern rifles from WWI onwards. It is a history as convoluted as the nation of Poland, itself.
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Post by Plainsman on May 16, 2023 17:24:06 GMT -5
For many years I have had a beautiful commercial “Model A” Mauser made in Danzig between the wars. It’s been pretty much useless to me because it had a QD ‘scope from the ‘20s that was in very poor condition and the flip-up iron sights were sighted for about 400/500m. I should just sell the thing but it’s so dang purty. www.africahunting.com/threads/identifying-mauser-model-a-vs-b-vs.65984/ |
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Post by toshtego on May 16, 2023 18:55:44 GMT -5
I am trying to figure out what the sights on mine are set at. This is complicated by the lack of public rifle ranges in these parts. Driving all the way to Cimarron and the NRA Whittington Center is not an option for me just now.
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Post by toshtego on May 16, 2023 20:49:10 GMT -5
Trying to find a real rifle range within 80 miles. Jeez, I do not understand what has happened to them.
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Post by Plainsman on May 16, 2023 21:34:34 GMT -5
Game commisions in the various states often operated unmanned ranges. Many have been closed due to vandalism, littering, and unsafe practices by users. Too much maintenance and liability. Shooters and “hunters” did it to themselves. But most rural communities have gun clubs with very reasonable membership rates. stepoutside.org/taos-nm/shooting-sports/ |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 16, 2023 23:58:00 GMT -5
For many years I have had a beautiful commercial “Model A” Mauser made in Danzig between the wars. It’s been pretty much useless to me because it had a QD ‘scope from the ‘20s that was in very poor condition and the flip-up iron sights were sighted for about 400/500m. I should just sell the thing but it’s so dang purty. www.africahunting.com/threads/identifying-mauser-model-a-vs-b-vs.65984/There are people who specialize in old scopes and mounts. I understand about keeping it for looks. I miss my 1895 Austrian Mannlicher just because it was beautiful and worked so great. A real quality product that I have never seen the equal. You could also replace the front sight with a taller one to bring it down. |
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Post by Ronv69 on May 17, 2023 0:02:56 GMT -5
I am trying to figure out what the sights on mine are set at. This is complicated by the lack of public rifle ranges in these parts. Driving all the way to Cimarron and the NRA Whittington Center is not an option for me just now. The nearest 200 yard range is 55 miles. There's a 100 yard range about 30 miles that I should check out. Most of the shooters up here have enough land that they don't need a range. I have room for a hundred yard target, but not enough room behind it. So I just do function testing and basic sighting on the property. |
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Post by toshtego on May 17, 2023 8:22:33 GMT -5
Game commisions in the various states often operated unmanned ranges. Many have been closed due to vandalism, littering, and unsafe practices by users. Too much maintenance and liability. Shooters and “hunters” did it to themselves. But most rural communities have gun clubs with very reasonable membership rates. stepoutside.org/taos-nm/shooting-sports/I am looking into that now. There are some in southern CO within 90 miles. I do not know if they are for rifles. Skeet Shooting is prominent in their names. I am looking for benches, maybe sun covers, fixed target stands, a Range Officer would be nice but not required, I hope. The unsupervised ranges I visited in the past could be a little dangerous, |
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Post by toshtego on May 17, 2023 8:26:06 GMT -5
I am trying to figure out what the sights on mine are set at. This is complicated by the lack of public rifle ranges in these parts. Driving all the way to Cimarron and the NRA Whittington Center is not an option for me just now. The nearest 200 yard range is 55 miles. There's a 100 yard range about 30 miles that I should check out. Most of the shooters up here have enough land that they don't need a range. I have room for a hundred yard target, but not enough room behind it. So I just do function testing and basic sighting on the property. There is private land across the highway from me that is backstopped by a mesa. Perfect spot. I would have to set up what I need and that is too much bother since it is not my property. Also, the community tires of gun shots and 7.97mm Mauser makes a loud noise. My place has the room but there is no safe backstop. |
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Post by Plainsman on May 17, 2023 8:35:37 GMT -5
A backhoe could raise you a berm in 15-minutes.
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Post by Plainsman on May 17, 2023 12:23:51 GMT -5
For many years I have had a beautiful commercial “Model A” Mauser made in Danzig between the wars. It’s been pretty much useless to me because it had a QD ‘scope from the ‘20s that was in very poor condition and the flip-up iron sights were sighted for about 400/500m. I should just sell the thing but it’s so dang purty. www.africahunting.com/threads/identifying-mauser-model-a-vs-b-vs.65984/There are people who specialize in old scopes and mounts. I understand about keeping it for looks. I miss my 1895 Austrian Mannlicher just because it was beautiful and worked so great. A real quality product that I have never seen the equal. You could also replace the front sight with a taller one to bring it down. I don’t need it. I have a very broad bench of deer, varmint, and medium game rifles. Plus, the early 20th C stock design (and the steel buttplate) makes it kick most painfully. To be looked at, appreciated, but seldom shot. |
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Post by toshtego on May 17, 2023 19:35:39 GMT -5
A backhoe could raise you a berm in 15-minutes. I have thought about doing just that. The goats would like it. A highway wraps around the place to the east and north. To the west and south are houses. I am fastidious about where my bullets go here. The animals would not like shooting on the property. You might remember the asshat hunters who stood at my fence line and poured gun fire into my property some years ago. That was not good for my animals. They killed an elk cow and wounded her two calves. I was so angry I almost shot those hunters when they came to my front gate demanding access to the elk. Thankfully I did not. That would have been bad for me and worse for them. Too much stupidity here. |
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Post by Plainsman on May 17, 2023 19:47:03 GMT -5
NE law would not have given them access. They would have been arrested. Too bad. Yep. The older you get you less tolerance you have for stupidity, of which there is so much.
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Post by toshtego on May 17, 2023 21:03:22 GMT -5
NE law would not have given them access. They would have been arrested. Too bad. Yep. The older you get you less tolerance you have for stupidity, of which there is so much. Nobody is arrested here. Takes the Game and Fish officers hours to reach here if they come at all. |
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because Marines always hit center of Maggie's Drawers. 