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Post by cgvt on Aug 12, 2019 17:58:49 GMT -5
I bought a new can of Carter Hall a couple weeks ago. I think I'll just transfer the tobacco to the old can with the good looking label from now on. *sigh*  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 18:24:36 GMT -5
The old yellow label is a classic for sure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 18:31:46 GMT -5
Just be thankful they haven't gone to a foil wrapped cardboard can.
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Post by cgvt on Aug 12, 2019 18:35:25 GMT -5
That damn cancer warning.
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Post by puffy on Aug 12, 2019 18:36:31 GMT -5
This brings up a Question..If the label is less appealing will folks be less inclined to select the blend? Some of the big's seem to think so..Another question..Are tobacco companies voluntarily going along to ease pressure in other areas?
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Post by chasingembers on Aug 12, 2019 18:50:54 GMT -5
I jar it after I open it. Label it all they want to, I'll buy it
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Post by cgvt on Aug 12, 2019 19:21:58 GMT -5
This brings up a Question..If the label is less appealing will folks be less inclined to select the blend? Some of the big's seem to think so..Another question..Are tobacco companies voluntarily going along to ease pressure in other areas? I think they are doing it because they have no choice. But really, is there anyone that plans on buying tobacco that would be swayed by this? To me, the worst thing is that it just looks like $hit. I doubt that it would discourage someone from buying it, but I guess it could. |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 12, 2019 19:48:28 GMT -5
With the stuff I deal with at work, tobacco warnings are the least of my health worries.
That new tub is ugly as can be. I'd transfer contents to the old one, or put it in a jar. Then burn the new one.
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Post by monbla256 on Aug 12, 2019 21:28:00 GMT -5
This brings up a Question..If the label is less appealing will folks be less inclined to select the blend? Some of the big's seem to think so..Another question..Are tobacco companies voluntarily going along to ease pressure in other areas? I think they are doing it because they have no choice. But really, is there anyone that plans on buying tobacco that would be swayed by this? To me, the worst thing is that it just looks like $hit. I doubt that it would discourage someone from buying it, but I guess it could.  |
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Post by cgvt on Aug 12, 2019 21:57:37 GMT -5
Of course the contents are the same and that is what I bought if for and of course I could open it and jar it, but that doesn't mean I have to like the new labeling. Basically, I am just an old man yelling at clouds.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2019 22:20:54 GMT -5
Sometimes it feels good to yell at clouds at least they don't fight back.
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Post by elric on Aug 12, 2019 22:54:25 GMT -5
That damn cancer warning. You should see the plain packaging and the disgusting pics that they've forced onto us here in Oz. Why do they feel the need to write the warnings in such large print? They're either considering the sight impaired [maybe they've never heard of reading glasses?] or just part of treating smokers like utter cretins. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2019 0:18:55 GMT -5
It really takes away from the look. But I've noticed your warnings are all the same in the US (that nicotine is addictive). Over here it's stepped up a notch... Smoking causes impotence. Smoking causes cancer. 9 out of 10 cases of lung cancer are caused by smoking. And, like elric's, they are accompanied by the lovely graphic images. It almost looks to me that the are forced to write something as a warning and they wrote the least offensive thing they could. |
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Post by Spartacus on Aug 13, 2019 8:40:35 GMT -5
I picked up a bunch of Samuel Gawith in the England and they had the tins inside of a box. The boxes had all of the nasty EU pictures and warnings on them but the actual tins were clean of all warning labels.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 13, 2019 10:34:34 GMT -5
I picked up a bunch of Samuel Gawith in the England and they had the tins inside of a box. The boxes had all of the nasty EU pictures and warnings on them but the actual tins were clean of all warning labels. That's the way forward IMO. I'm surprised they get away with that, but they've obviously exploited a loophole and are running with it until told otherwise. |
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Aug 13, 2019 10:53:37 GMT -5
It really takes away from the look. But I've noticed your warnings are all the same in the US (that nicotine is addictive). Over here it's stepped up a notch... Smoking causes impotence. Smoking causes cancer. 9 out of 10 cases of lung cancer are caused by smoking. And, like elric 's, they are accompanied by the lovely graphic images. It almost looks to me that the are forced to write something as a warning and they wrote the least offensive thing they could. Our cigarette packages have much nastier messages on them.
The FDA, FTC, and TTB, who all (individually!) regulate tobacco labeling, are pretty conservative organisations. They are not going to risk being sued by industry for forcing them to apply a less than extremely-well-supported warning statement on the package.
Cigarettes are more-studied so there are lots more nasty warnings that can be applied.
P.S. How crazy is it that there are three different federal agencies that each have an opinion about your tobacco label?
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 13, 2019 21:07:04 GMT -5
You left out the ATF.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 13, 2019 21:20:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately, a lot of people vote for politicians that want to rule and regulate them...2008 ushered in FDA regulations when America had a collective brain fart.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Aug 14, 2019 14:53:15 GMT -5
Unfortunately, a lot of people vote for politicians that want to rule and regulate them...2008 ushered in FDA regulations when America had a collective brain fart. Oh, I'm glad the FDA bill passed.
It just seems unfortunate that folks designing labels have to pass it by three different regulators. Maybe we need a "tobacco labeling clearing house authority" to arbitrate among the three 
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Post by trailboss on Aug 14, 2019 15:19:44 GMT -5
Yeah... hopefully the FDA just keeps increasing regulatory powers to the point that any amount of nicotene is unacceptable, ending tobacco sales completely.
Then we can reminisce about how great it was back in the day.
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Aug 14, 2019 21:37:53 GMT -5
Yeah... hopefully the FDA just keeps increasing regulatory powers to the point that any amount of nicotene is unacceptable, ending tobacco sales completely. Then we can reminisce about how great it was back in the day. The act expressly forbids the FDA to do this. All traditional smoking products -- chew, dip, smoking tobacco, cigarettes, cigars -- are protected from a ban or effective ban.
I'm sure the FDA is interested in nicotine absorption rates and levels from cigarettes, but that is already subject to limits in pretty much every country in the world. Nobody, anywhere, has those concerns about pipe tobacco.
In short, I am more happy than unhappy with the FDA progress so far, and it hasn't impacted us as pipe smokers just yet. Hopefully it never will do.
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Post by trailboss on Aug 14, 2019 21:52:53 GMT -5
History does not rhyme, but it repeats itself.
I have read in plenty of places where pipe tobacco has been expressly cited as a problem for the citizenry, in blogs and academic reports that are written expressly to list pipe tobacco as a hazard, that need to be ridden from society....them blogs and academic reports are written to sway and inform the thinking of the rulers over those they look upon as the serfs.
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Post by PhantomWolf on Aug 15, 2019 0:54:25 GMT -5
I seriously get enraged by this passive aggressive bullshit... Absolutely no point to it other than some bored housewives' crusade to turn the world into one big bible study/Tupperware party. These are the same people that try to tell us what music and books we can buy. The same people who think a rational person can play a video game and become violently insane as a result...
I dare someone to find a single person in this country of sound mind between the ages of 6-106 that is unaware smoking is bad for their health. If you can find one, I'll get one of these warnings tattooed on my face.
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Post by scott28638 on Aug 15, 2019 13:17:42 GMT -5
That's just ugly! SMH
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Post by smellthehatfirst on Aug 15, 2019 15:19:31 GMT -5
I have read in plenty of places where pipe tobacco has been expressly cited as a problem for the citizenry, in blogs and academic reports that are written expressly to list pipe tobacco as a hazard, that need to be ridden from society....them blogs and academic reports are written to sway and inform the thinking of the rulers over those they look upon as the serfs. I meant, specifically, no one is talking about nicotine limits on pipe tobacco. Pipe tobacco just isn't engineered the way a cigarette is, and thus there is less interest in trying to tweak it on the margins. |
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Post by libertysmoke on Aug 27, 2019 10:28:00 GMT -5
I picked up a bunch of Samuel Gawith in the England and they had the tins inside of a box. The boxes had all of the nasty EU pictures and warnings on them but the actual tins were clean of all warning labels. THIS ... Yes ! It's the best packaging I've seen & way around the issue . |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 11:14:06 GMT -5
That damn cancer warning. That's our illustrious government doing there best to keep all of us up to date and safe. |
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Post by Goldbrick on Aug 29, 2019 20:17:05 GMT -5
That damn cancer warning. Cancer warning or whatever; I hate change in any form when it comes to the label of a fine old product like Carter Hall...I got the boxed pouch a while back , and the crapie new look made me question the baccy inside...just didn't taste as good!
I know it's all in my head, that's what happens when you become a codger ,but hell, Carter Hall is the classic codger blend and they just had to monkey around with it. 
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2019 20:21:01 GMT -5
In regards to Carter Hall, the zip/open strip is now clear instead of red. Tough for old eyes to see. A veritable conspiracy against geezers!
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Post by pappyjoe on Aug 30, 2019 7:55:37 GMT -5
That's why the price on "vintage" tobacco tins are increasing in the junk shops.
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