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Post by trailboss on Aug 18, 2019 19:56:16 GMT -5
I like Fosters as a utility beer...$5.00 for two oilcans...Like three nuns tobacco, I never had it "back in the day" so I cannot offer a comparison, but it works for me. Awhile back, Kroger's had 3 cans for $5.00.
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Post by elric on Aug 18, 2019 20:16:37 GMT -5
I like Fosters as a utility beer...$5.00 for two oilcans...Like three nuns tobacco, I never had it "back in the day" so I cannot offer a comparison, but it works for me. Awhile back, Kroger's had 3 cans for $5.00. Being a lager it leans a touch to the sweeter side of the spectrum. Probably why it was so popular with younger drinkers. Generally speaking, I agree with my grandfathers opinion on beer; 'There's no such thing as a bad beer. There's good beer and then there's better beer.' [He clearly had never tried Corona] On a stinking hot day, most ice cold brews go down a treat. Considering that Fosters is no longer brewed in Australia, you probably get the British made version. One of my favourite beers is Coopers Pale Ale. It's brewed in the bottle so one needs to gently tip the bottle upside down to mix the sediment through. Give it a try if you spot it in your bottle'o. [bottle shop]
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Post by trailboss on Aug 18, 2019 20:20:40 GMT -5
I will.
I imagine Total wines and more has it....it is the Disneyland of liquor stores.
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Post by elric on Aug 18, 2019 20:31:32 GMT -5
One thing that I've noticed is that Wookie is a different dog when indoors. As he's becoming more relaxed, he's becoming more playful. Outside he zooms around and prances about, doing little leaps [and tries to jump on me, a habit that I'm curbing] but once inside he quietens right down. Interesting since it's his first ever experience of being indoors.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 18, 2019 20:43:54 GMT -5
Thank you for posting the pics Ron, much appreciated. Two things that I liked in particular was his stance and his focus. When the pics were taken he had spotted a cat. The kennel were he was boarded is on acreage. Apparently there's a lot of feral cats in the area. He doesn't like cats, lol. A dog after my own heart. On the other hand, the kitten I rescued and gave to my friends mom has already scored a half dozen mice and he's not even 6 months old. Therefore, Cats>mice.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 18, 2019 20:45:51 GMT -5
I like Fosters as a utility beer...$5.00 for two oilcans...Like three nuns tobacco, I never had it "back in the day" so I cannot offer a comparison, but it works for me. Awhile back, Kroger's had 3 cans for $5.00. I have a neighbor (originally from South Africa) whose home is decorated inside with cans and cases of Foster's. Most are empty.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 18, 2019 21:07:42 GMT -5
In Mexico it is... In Australia, it is Fosters...so be advised... Thanks for the thread, best wishes for Wookie and you. I thought a slice of lime om the neck of that bottle would be appropriate. Good looking young man, I must say! The only beer I have ever had that worked with lime was XXX Tres Equis. Stronger flavor than Dos Equis. Every where I went everyone was drinking it. Salt on the web of the thumb, lick the salt, bite the lime and drink the beer. All of the Mexicans were doing it. I never see XXX here, but Dos Equis is everywhere. In the 70's the American brewers came out with several brands of lime flavored beer, lime shaving cream, lime cigarettes and lime after shave.
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Post by elric on Aug 18, 2019 21:53:50 GMT -5
Thank you for posting the pics Ron, much appreciated. Two things that I liked in particular was his stance and his focus. When the pics were taken he had spotted a cat. The kennel were he was boarded is on acreage. Apparently there's a lot of feral cats in the area. He doesn't like cats, lol. A dog after my own heart. On the other hand, the kitten I rescued and gave to my friends mom has already scored a half dozen mice and he's not even 6 months old. Therefore, Cats>mice. I'm an animal lover so it's not cats that I have a problem with, it's the inconsiderate owners who let them out to roam, using my back yard as a toilet and hunting ground that piss me off. Feral cats here grow huge. They're the single biggest cause of species extinction in Australia. Cats are one of the few animals that kills for the sport. An Aussie Uni study found that even the laziest domestic cats who are allowed to roam kill at least 300 native animals a year [Lizards, frogs, birds and marsupials] The neighbours cat loved using my backyard for a toilet [My neighbours are white Aboriginals who think that the rules of civility and reasonableness apply to everyone but themselves] Wookie got within a couple of feet of catching it. The neighbours will now have to actually clean out their cat tray now. I have a sneaking suspicion that their cat will be using it more frequently, lol.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 19, 2019 8:50:37 GMT -5
The are killing songbirds in Texas by the millions. The owners think it's cute. It's even government policy to neuter feral cats and return them to their original place of capture.
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Post by roberted5 on Aug 19, 2019 9:06:53 GMT -5
We had a Rotti from a pup and he showed no signs of aggression for several years. One day my nephew tried to pet him and Brutus attacked but luckily didn’t cause damage. My nephew was living with us almost permanently and we had to put the dog down. Rotti and Doberman are known to attack owners for no reason and I’ve known it to happen in each case.
Great picture of the German Shepard.
I have a 50/50 jack Russell terrier chiawaii mix I got from a rescue center and I’ll try to post pictures of him later
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Post by elric on Aug 19, 2019 10:51:28 GMT -5
We had a Rotti from a pup and he showed no signs of aggression for several years. One day my nephew tried to pet him and Brutus attacked but luckily didn’t cause damage. My nephew was living with us almost permanently and we had to put the dog down. Rotti and Doberman are known to attack owners for no reason and I’ve known it to happen in each case. Great picture of the German Shepard. I have a 50/50 jack Russell terrier chiawaii mix I got from a rescue center and I’ll try to post pictures of him later I've heard these stories before. Every single time there's a reason for it. Old guys would tell me about this Rotti or that Doberman who 'suddenly attacked for no reason' Bullshit. More often than not, it's because the owner mistreats it in some way. Sooner or later the dog has had enough & will bite back. Did you witness the attack? I'd like to know exactly what your nephew did to him. Now I'm not saying that you abused Brutus, only you know. But there's always a reason. Sometimes it's because the dogs in pain. Sometimes it's due to inbreeding (It's late here so I relate the story of a classic case of inbreeding; the Alsation) Or maybe your nephew is one of those types who has no idea how to be around dogs and pissed him off. Rotti's have one of the strongest bite strengths. If your nephew didn't require 15-20 stitches then it was just a warning bite. My old Rotti was protection trained. He was scary when he went off but he was incredibly gentle & tolerant of little kids. The most loving dog one would care to meet. But, as he was guaranteed to take out five men, he was not a dog to be trifled with [The trainers offered me twice my money back and another dog for him six months after I bought him. They wanted to train him to be a bodyguard dog. The elite of the protection dog world] Wookie bit the first two potential adopters, yet he has not shown me the slightest bit of aggression. He's actually quite sweet natured. [Just a wee bit over-protective] In fact I've handled and even trained quite a few Shepherd & Rotti 'biters'. I've not been bit once by any of them. Rotti's/Shepherds/Dobermans are serious animals not to be messed with. One needs to know how to be around them. They are a breed that aren't suited to everyone. BTW, I'm real sorry that you felt the need to put him down. Always a sad day.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 19, 2019 11:13:24 GMT -5
We had a Rotti from a pup and he showed no signs of aggression for several years. One day my nephew tried to pet him and Brutus attacked but luckily didn’t cause damage. My nephew was living with us almost permanently and we had to put the dog down. Rotti and Doberman are known to attack owners for no reason and I’ve known it to happen in each case. Great picture of the German Shepard. I have a 50/50 jack Russell terrier chiawaii mix I got from a rescue center and I’ll try to post pictures of him later A girl from our church had been feeding and playing with her neighbors Rottweiler from the time his eyes opened. She was surprised when it chewed her hand off. 7 plastic surgeries later she could hold a fork. My uncle had a 7 year old Great Dane that had always been a sweet puppy when it ate his grand baby. Some dog breeds have no business around children.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 19, 2019 14:14:47 GMT -5
From a link sent to me by our homeowners insurance company.
Here is a list of dog breeds that most companies will not insure:
Pit Bulls & Staffordshire Terriers Doberman Pinschers Chows Rottweilers Presa Canarios German Shepherds Great Danes Akitas Siberian Huskies Wolf-hybrids
The first six dog breeds listed above are the most denied by insurance companies. All companies are different, some may deny some breeds listed above while they may insure other breeds. Be sure to let your agent know.
But my dog is a good dog! If you own one of the dog breeds listed above, I know what your thinking right now . You have one of the breeds listed above and they are a good dog who you consider a baby and would not hurt anyone.
I know I know, but insurance companies keep stats on dog bites and these breeds are who not only are the most likely to bite, but also cause the most harm. So your dog may be a baby most of the time, but when they do bite it usually does major damage, therefore a bigger claim is paid.
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Post by elric on Aug 19, 2019 19:51:35 GMT -5
We had a Rotti from a pup and he showed no signs of aggression for several years. One day my nephew tried to pet him and Brutus attacked but luckily didn’t cause damage. My nephew was living with us almost permanently and we had to put the dog down. Rotti and Doberman are known to attack owners for no reason and I’ve known it to happen in each case. Great picture of the German Shepard. I have a 50/50 jack Russell terrier chiawaii mix I got from a rescue center and I’ll try to post pictures of him later A girl from our church had been feeding and playing with her neighbors Rottweiler from the time his eyes opened. She was surprised when it chewed her hand off. 7 plastic surgeries later she could hold a fork. My uncle had a 7 year old Great Dane that had always been a sweet puppy when it ate his grand baby. Some dog breeds have no business around children. I've spent a lot of time around these breeds and some should never be allowed near a child. A case in point is the Rotti that I was tossing up between with the protection trained dog that I bought. While I was chewing it over the trainer asked if I had any kids. At the time I didn't so she said 'Oh good, choose him' pointing at the other dog, ''He hates kids'. [He had been teased mercilessly by it's original owners children and yes, he finally snapped and bit one quite badly] Not wanting a dog that hates kids I asked about Ponti, the trainer rolled her eyes as if it was a defect, 'That one adores kids'. Good, that made the decision easy. Ponti would just melt around babies and little kids. He was so tolerant. He had a couple of triggers from being raised by an incompetent handler. He simply hated to have his collar held without warning. It pissed him off big time. Knowing this, I'd call him to heel before touching his collar. Yet when my son was a baby, he'd use Ponti to pull himself up to stand. Then while clutching his collar to steady himself, he'd take a few steps while Ponti patiently moved with him. As a toddler he was all over that dog, grabbing his collar despite my efforts to discourage him from doing so. I've even got a pic of him at around 2yo, clutching Pontis collar with a big grin while Ponti looked mournfully at the camera, lol. He never even growled at my son. [He did give him a bite that left beuises from his teeth when my son was 7yo but that's another story. I did see it coming and tried to warn him] The other Rotti that hated kids was bought by a Chinese family. They wanted a guard dog but had no clue how to treat the poor creature. Many Chinese treat a dog like a robot. After it's first night the father asked his 18yo son to put the dog in it's cage for the day. This resulted in a wound that required 18 stitches to the teenagers thigh [Yep, it went for a groin bite but the teen moved in time] Not realising the seriousness of the bite the father had a crack which resulted in 18 stitches to his shoulder [which indicates that the dog went for the throat] They drugged the dog up and took it back to the trainers, screeching 'You teach it no bite me, no bite me'. Realising that these people were incompetent morons, the trainers tried to take the dog back and refund their money but the Chinaman refused. Two dogs of the same breed that had entirely different natures. That's the problem with raising a protective breed from a pup. Even when one has viewed both the sire and the dam, one cannot be 100% predicting the dogs nature. Ponti was a brilliant family dog but not all Rotti's are. Same goes with Shepherds. Wookie is a good example; he is only suited as a one man dog. One can only wonder at how different would he have been had he not had the upbringing that he's had. Abuse changes a dog.
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Post by elric on Aug 19, 2019 20:13:10 GMT -5
It's now been a week and I'm seeing changes in Wookie every day. He's now actually wagging his tail. He's happy. This morning when I let him out into the yard, he romped around like a puppy. He's really coming out of his shell.
Today I'm taking him for his first long walk. It should be interesting as to how he reacts to all the different stimuli, as he's never been taken out for a walk in public, ever. My biggest concern is how he reacts to strangers and will he listen to me to 'leave' if he goes off.
One good sign yesterday was when I went to pick up his food [$70 to fill my little freezer that's the size of a bar fridge] One of the owners of the business came outside to check out Wookie who was restrained in the back of my ute. Warning her not to get too close, Wookie went of his head ..... but, he stopped barking when I told him 'It's ok' [One word that he's learning when there's nothing to worry about. When he hears a noise when at home, he'll alert, then when he looks at me and I say 'It's ok', he'll usually lay back down]
The fact that it was a female is why he quietened down so readily [He's not fond of men] None-the-less, it's an excellent sign that gives me a lot of hope. Not only did he stop barking & growling, he went back to checking his surroundings, turning his back on her in the process. In his favour [and mine] is that Wookie is still young enough to learn.
Having said that, keeping in mind the above post, no matter how well he responds to training, Wookie will never be suitable as a family dog and will never be trusted with kids as a matter-off-course. It's just commonsense really.
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Post by elric on Aug 19, 2019 20:23:25 GMT -5
This is my "granddog", Khaleesi who has been living with us since March. She is my daughter's dog. They have been staying with us while her husband is on deployment in the Navy. She is really a sweet dog. What a nice looking girl. She's in lovely condition. Just look at those alert ears. Her eyes show the intelligence that one comes to expect from a Shepherd. Just from the pic one can tell that she's very comfortable in her surroundings. It's not always easy to switch a dog like a Shepherd from one home to another [Different 'rules' and routine]. Your daughter, yourself and your family obviously know how to treat a dog. Kudos and respect to you all. Thanks for sharing. [Everyone please feel free to share your doggie pics]
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Post by elric on Aug 20, 2019 1:26:53 GMT -5
Alsatian v German Shepherd.
This is a classic example of what inbreeding will do to a breed. I've had many debates over the years on this subject with those who insist that they're exactly the same breed. Not so. Originally they were.
This is the story that I was first told many years ago by a group of GS breeders. Back around WWI, GS lovers were concerned about owning a dog with the same name as the enemy, so a group of breeders decided to source dogs from France, from two towns close to the German border, Alsace & Sebastian [IIRC] in particular. The name Alsatian was an amalgamation of these towns names.
Unfortunately the breeders did not have broad enough blood stock which resulted in breeding dogs that were related. Over a short time, the Alsatians physical characteristics differed from the German Shepherd. They tended to be smaller and had a narrower head than a Shepherd.
It was the Alsatian I believe, where the stories of GS dogs turning on their masters first originated. For no obvious reason, usually older Alsatians would suddenly bite their owners. A direct result of inbreeding.
A more recent example is that of PitBulls. The American PitBull is a beautiful animal but they are extremely headstrong so they need an experienced owner and firm training. Around 3yo they do settle down and are very predictable animals.
Sadly, the breed suffers from discrimination due entirely to poorly bred animals. Cretins who bred PitBulls for fighting were responsible for creating unreliable dogs through inbreeding. This is why we have all heard countless stories of PitBulls suddenly attacking an owner and their families out of the blue, contrary to the dogs usual nature. The inbred dogs have infected the gene pool.
A similar thing happens to humans with a history of generational inbreeding. Procreating with relations is an extremely bad idea. It's no coincidence that those responsible for suicide bombings for example, come from a culture where marrying ones cousin is common practice.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 20, 2019 20:38:48 GMT -5
elric, there's that Georgia link again. 😉😎ðŸ¤
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Post by elric on Aug 20, 2019 20:46:05 GMT -5
elric , there's that Georgia link again. 😉😎🤠Funny that you say that; ever since I was a little boy when I first heard songs like Battle Hymn of the Republic or An American Trilogy by Elvis [which includes Battle Hymn off course] for example, I found them quite stirring and familiar. Maybe I was a good ol' southern boy in a past life?
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Post by dave g on Aug 21, 2019 3:10:04 GMT -5
Following in the trend of cool shepherds, here’s my old guy. Great looking dogs, fellas. picture url
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Post by elric on Aug 21, 2019 10:16:27 GMT -5
Another nice Shepherd dave gIt's easy to see that he's a content dog; he's smiling. Nice pearly white teeth. He's given raw meaty bones regularly then? Wookie is only 2 1/2yo and he already has tarter on his teeth from a diet of kibble.
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Post by dave g on Aug 21, 2019 18:02:13 GMT -5
elricHe’s all doped up on his meds in this pic. They do make him happy. Bronson is 12 and takes 4 different pills per day. He gets dentibones regularly and it keeps his teeth in good shape.
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Post by elric on Aug 21, 2019 19:51:33 GMT -5
elric He’s all doped up on his meds in this pic. They do make him happy. Bronson is 12 and takes 4 different pills per day. He gets dentibones regularly and it keeps his teeth in good shape. Dentibones? Looks like they work well enough. Last night I was checking out Wookies teeth and they're already looking much cleaner. The beef brisket bones that he gets daily are doing the job. They take quite a bit of effort for him to devour, requiring the use of the back teeth to break it down. I'm a raw food advocate and am regularly telling pet lovers of the benefits. Americans tell me that raw pet food is quite expensive in the U.S. If that were the case here in Oz, I'd go hunting for my dogs food and keep an eye out for fresh road kill. Only last Friday when bringing Wookie home we passed a dead roo on the side of the road. When I lived in the outback I would take the hind legs from any roo that got hit by a truck overnight to give to the old folk in town for fresh dog meat.
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Post by elric on Aug 21, 2019 20:07:03 GMT -5
elric He’s all doped up on his meds in this pic. They do make him happy. Bronson is 12 and takes 4 different pills per day. He gets dentibones regularly and it keeps his teeth in good shape. '4 different pills per day' is a lot. Our pets haven't escaped the modern rise in disease that's also afflicting us humans. Much of it is a direct result of commercial pet food. Then there's the big rise in cancers in dogs that is directly due to yearly vaccinations. It's no coincidence that the cancers often form at the injection site. Once a dog has had it's last booster shots at 3mo, it's covered for life. Yearly vaccinations is an unnecessary scam that's been foisted on us by the pHarmaceutical industry that just like in the medical industry for people, has way too much influence on what vet/med students are taught. Most vets understand very little about diet and nutrition.
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Post by Legend Lover on Aug 21, 2019 23:36:56 GMT -5
elric He’s all doped up on his meds in this pic. They do make him happy. Bronson is 12 and takes 4 different pills per day. He gets dentibones regularly and it keeps his teeth in good shape. Dentibones? Looks like they work well enough. Last night I was checking out Wookies teeth and they're already looking much cleaner. The beef brisket bones that he gets daily are doing the job. They take quite a bit of effort for him to devour, requiring the use of the back teeth to break it down. I'm a raw food advocate and am regularly telling pet lovers of the benefits. Americans tell me that raw pet food is quite expensive in the U.S. If that were the case here in Oz, I'd go hunting for my dogs food and keep an eye out for fresh road kill. Only last Friday when bringing Wookie home we passed a dead roo on the side of the road. When I lived in the outback I would take the hind legs from any roo that got hit by a truck overnight to give to the old folk in town for fresh dog meat.
We are raw food all the way. Has done wonders for our dog's gut.
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Post by elric on Aug 22, 2019 0:18:57 GMT -5
Dentibones? Looks like they work well enough. Last night I was checking out Wookies teeth and they're already looking much cleaner. The beef brisket bones that he gets daily are doing the job. They take quite a bit of effort for him to devour, requiring the use of the back teeth to break it down. I'm a raw food advocate and am regularly telling pet lovers of the benefits. Americans tell me that raw pet food is quite expensive in the U.S. If that were the case here in Oz, I'd go hunting for my dogs food and keep an eye out for fresh road kill. Only last Friday when bringing Wookie home we passed a dead roo on the side of the road. When I lived in the outback I would take the hind legs from any roo that got hit by a truck overnight to give to the old folk in town for fresh dog meat.
We are raw food all the way. Has done wonders for our dog's gut. Good onya Paddy. A raw diet has many benefits. As I said in my opening post, dogs guts are designed to break down raw soft bone and raw meat. Commercial food goes straight through them with little effort. The stools are soft and stink bad. As you'd be aware, a dog who is fed raw has firm [but not hard] stools that turn white within a few days and stop smelling. [I've got a big pile of dog crap in a back corner of my yard. It does not smell in the slightest] A dog whose guts regularly work at digesting raw soft bone, are highly unlikely to ever get a twisted bowel. Especially larger dogs that are prone to this condition. Passing firm stools also helps conditions such as overactive anal glands.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 22, 2019 8:22:51 GMT -5
Well, this thread has gone the way of so many others....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:07:38 GMT -5
I will chime in about German Shepherds I have had three raised from pups and every last one all females tested me for dominance at about two years of age. Barring teeth with curled back lips hair up on their backs and some attempting to attack or trying to bite. I knipped that right in butt with a spanking just like you would a child caught playing with matches. Notice I did not say beat but I will tell you this I never had a problem ever again. I will not own a dog that is violent to me or family members or can not be trusted around small children. All of the shepherds I have owned were very territorial and protective and yes they were all family dogs and darn good ones at that. Some of the dogs on Rons insurance list are bat poopy crazy but shepherds make the list because they are protective or used for protection as guard dogs. I don't know how many more times I can stand to hear about the loveable pitbull who went nuts and attacked a child. Pitbulls are defective has nothing to do with inbreeding. You don't have to worry about me quarantining a dog who has attacked a child I will resolve the problem in fps fashion promptly. Oh and do not post a beware of dog sign it is a admission of knowing your dog dangerous in a court of law. YMMV
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Post by elric on Aug 22, 2019 9:51:17 GMT -5
From a link sent to me by our homeowners insurance company. Here is a list of dog breeds that most companies will not insure: Pit Bulls & Staffordshire Terriers Doberman Pinschers Chows Rottweilers Presa Canarios German Shepherds Great Danes Akitas Siberian Huskies Wolf-hybrids The first six dog breeds listed above are the most denied by insurance companies. All companies are different, some may deny some breeds listed above while they may insure other breeds. Be sure to let your agent know. But my dog is a good dog! If you own one of the dog breeds listed above, I know what your thinking right now . You have one of the breeds listed above and they are a good dog who you consider a baby and would not hurt anyone. I know I know, but insurance companies keep stats on dog bites and these breeds are who not only are the most likely to bite, but also cause the most harm. So your dog may be a baby most of the time, but when they do bite it usually does major damage, therefore a bigger claim is paid. People owning inappropriate breeds in medium to high density residential situations was what brought this about. There's no way that a breed such as those on the list are suitable in apartments or townhouses with shared walkways and property. Imagine at night if someone walks round a corner and startles your Shepherd/Rotti/Doberman. We know what's going to happen. Just one example of a bite waiting to happen. But most bites are either due to irresponsible owners or people who pat a dog without first asking if it's ok. Most dogs are predictable. Many people are not. As sweet a boy as Wookie is turning out to be, I'm under no illusion that he's safe around others. [One good sign today though; when on our walk, a mother walked by pushing a pram and he didn't bark or react. We were on the road, lady was on the footpath, so there was some space between us]
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