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Post by Cramptholomew on Aug 15, 2019 20:06:26 GMT -5
I wonder why they stopped at tri and didn't go to quad.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2019 20:51:46 GMT -5
Quite the quadonundrum indeed.
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Post by elric on Aug 15, 2019 21:07:36 GMT -5
Doctors are still pushing statins for Pete's sake! They have been proven to be ineffective in all but a few of the worst cases, and they cause far more harm than good. This has been proven in many studies. In a study of 10,000 patients that had already had a heart attack, the average life extension is less than 2 days. For this millions of people pay thousands of dollars and suffer muscle and joint pain, mental confusion and a list of other side effects. Every process in body relies on cholesterol and cholesterol precursors. The statins disrupt that whole process. They prescribe beta blockers and ignore the cognitive side effects. People are diagnosed with senile dementia every day when they are really over medicated. I go to the best doctors in the Houston area, and I keep them on their toes. If they can't keep up I will go to another doctor. I have suffered years of pain and hundreds of thousands of dollars because of doctors who just follow the drug companies claims. Doctors are so bogged down in paperwork and heavy case loads that they rarely have time to read the latest studies and the stuff they teach in medical school is years out of date. My primary care physician always asks me if I have any articles I think he should read and then we discuss it at my next appointment. I feel sorry for anyone who blindly do whatever their doctor says and never question if it's the right thing for them. G-d isn't spelled MD. I have a higher IQ than most of the doctors out there and I can study the same books they can. I can't do surgery on myself unfortunately, but I have doctors who I trust that I have known for decades to take care of that. All of my ancestors who didn't smoke cigarettes and weren't killed by accident or war lived into their late 80s and many into their late 90's. We eat a modified Mediterranean diet, but with more meat. We splurge sometimes, but otherwise what are we living for. If you're afraid to die you some introspection to find out why Wife and I are almost guaranteed our 3 score and 10 unless I get the motorcycle running soon, otherwise all bets are off. Either way looking forward meeting my Lord and will get there sooner or later. YMMV 😎😁🤠 Thank you! Exactly. Statins are an excellent example. Nearly twenty years ago I was given 2-3 years to live when diagnosed with Buergers disease. The surgeons, GPs and medical texts all concurred. This was not acceptable because my boy was 3yo at the time. I'm not afraid to meet my Maker [In fact it will be a glorious day] but my boy needed his dad. After spending 6 months in hospital - for the last three months I argued with my surgeon who insisted on chopping off my leg [My left foot had zero blood supply] The pain was excruciating and I was on a morphine drip for 5 1/2 months. Eventually I could no longer tolerate the pain and agreed to an amputation. It took me some time to come back to planet Earth but eventually started doing some intensive research, spurred on by the pain clinics insistence on shoveling some really dangerous medications down my throat. Over the last 20 years I've known 12 other Buergers patients. [3 IRL, the other 9 through on-line Buergers support groups] All 12 put their faith in their doctors and followed orders without question. ALL of them died within 3 years after diagnosis. I've taken responsibility for my own health, refused their liver destroying useless medications, done my research and I'm still alive. One would reasonably presume that the specialists would be intrigued to know why I've survived while their other patients are dropping like flies. No. In fact for the first seven years I had running battles with the pain clinic doctors in particular. After my amputation, a nerve ending in my stump grew into a ganglion of nerve endings called a neuroma, which is the cause of excruciating nerve pain. The doctors answer for this is to prescribe Epillim, an anti-epileptic that is also used as a mood stabiliser for the treatment of schizophrenia and bi-polar disorder. Why? Because, and I quote, "Sometimes we find it might help." They could not have cared any less that Epillim destroys the liver over time, that sudden cessation can kill, that it comes with dreadful side-effects, particularly psychological in nature, nor the fact that it rarely helps alleviate nerve pain. Nerve pain is extremely distressing. Sleep is impossible. There is no effective treatment other than cannabis. Over the last 20 years I've known at least 3 other patients from my pain clinic who took their own life because they could no longer cope. They also couldn't care any less that just a few pipes of cannabis every day alleviates 95% of my nerve pain. It's of no concern to them that cannabis is a safe medication. I've had doctors yell and scream at me for choosing cannabis over their dangerous pHarmaceuticals. When pushed to explain their negative attitude to cannabis, their ONLY objection is "It's ILLEGAL!" SMFH. [If they were honest they'd have said that they get no kick-backs from cannabis] Had I blindly followed doctors orders I would have died in agony many years ago. For the record; my GPs have mostly been very kind and supportive. It's the specialists who've been astoundingly ignorant, abusive and treated me with utter contempt and disdain.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 16, 2019 8:35:32 GMT -5
Doctors are still pushing statins for Pete's sake! They have been proven to be ineffective in all but a few of the worst cases, and they cause far more harm than good. This has been proven in many studies. In a study of 10,000 patients that had already had a heart attack, the average life extension is less than 2 days. For this millions of people pay thousands of dollars and suffer muscle and joint pain, mental confusion and a list of other side effects. Every process in body relies on cholesterol and cholesterol precursors. The statins disrupt that whole process. They prescribe beta blockers and ignore the cognitive side effects. People are diagnosed with senile dementia every day when they are really over medicated. I go to the best doctors in the Houston area, and I keep them on their toes. If they can't keep up I will go to another doctor. I have suffered years of pain and hundreds of thousands of dollars because of doctors who just follow the drug companies claims. Doctors are so bogged down in paperwork and heavy case loads that they rarely have time to read the latest studies and the stuff they teach in medical school is years out of date.My primary care physician always asks me if I have any articles I think he should read and then we discuss it at my next appointment. I feel sorry for anyone who blindly do whatever their doctor says and never question if it's the right thing for them. G-d isn't spelled MD. I have a higher IQ than most of the doctors out there and I can study the same books they can. I can't do surgery on myself unfortunately, but I have doctors who I trust that I have known for decades to take care of that. All of my ancestors who didn't smoke cigarettes and weren't killed by accident or war lived into their late 80s and many into their late 90's. We eat a modified Mediterranean diet, but with more meat. We splurge sometimes, but otherwise what are we living for. If you're afraid to die you some introspection to find out why Wife and I are almost guaranteed our 3 score and 10 unless I get the motorcycle running soon, otherwise all bets are off. Either way looking forward meeting my Lord and will get there sooner or later. YMMV 😎😁🤠 This is why, when my primary care physician decided to go to a concierge type of medicine where he has a limited number of patients and has the time to actually listen to my issues, and then has the time to explain it to me in plain English so that I understand why he is doing what he is doing with regard to my medical condition...fortunately I'm in really good condition considering my age and with my issues. My blood test results are excellent and he says I could very easily reach my 90's as my parents did. Not sure I want to reach my 90's considering the way the world is going.Sean, to me, is absolutely right, an informed patient is critical to getting the best health care possible. My Doc was considering going Concierge but he just built a new building and is hiring more doctors. I don't know if he's changing his mind or not. He made a good case for it though.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Aug 16, 2019 9:52:11 GMT -5
This is why, when my primary care physician decided to go to a concierge type of medicine where he has a limited number of patients and has the time to actually listen to my issues, and then has the time to explain it to me in plain English so that I understand why he is doing what he is doing with regard to my medical condition...fortunately I'm in really good condition considering my age and with my issues. My blood test results are excellent and he says I could very easily reach my 90's as my parents did. Not sure I want to reach my 90's considering the way the world is going.Sean, to me, is absolutely right, an informed patient is critical to getting the best health care possible. My Doc was considering going Concierge but he just built a new building and is hiring more doctors. I don't know if he's changing his mind or not. He made a good case for it though. I was skeptical of paying the extra $1,800. per year just to have my own personal Dr....but after talking with him, I understood why he went this way...less stress on him and a better medical business in the sense that each patient was given the time to be fully understood and the time for him to be able to get to know each patient thoroughly, time for him to be able to do research on each patient...so Concierge medicine is the way to go for him and me.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 16, 2019 10:16:06 GMT -5
My Doc was considering going Concierge but he just built a new building and is hiring more doctors. I don't know if he's changing his mind or not. He made a good case for it though. I was skeptical of paying the extra $1,800. per year just to have my own personal Dr....but after talking with him, I understood why he went this way...less stress on him and a better medical business in the sense that each patient was given the time to be fully understood and the time for him to be able to get to know each patient thoroughly, time for him to be able to do research on each patient...so Concierge medicine is the way to go for him and me. Same. We sat down he laid out his whole business plan. I would pay the money on top of the SS deduction.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Aug 16, 2019 10:42:24 GMT -5
I was skeptical of paying the extra $1,800. per year just to have my own personal Dr....but after talking with him, I understood why he went this way...less stress on him and a better medical business in the sense that each patient was given the time to be fully understood and the time for him to be able to get to know each patient thoroughly, time for him to be able to do research on each patient...so Concierge medicine is the way to go for him and me. Same. We sat down he laid out his whole business plan. I would pay the money on top of the SS deduction. Yeah, if you have a Dr. as good as mine...you'll pay whatever it costs to have access to a great Dr. The only thing keeping us here in Tall. is the fact that I can't take my Dr. where ever we planned on moving.
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 16, 2019 10:55:05 GMT -5
We are looking at, if we ever move, moving to the Oklahoma border. Hearing very good things about the Choctaw tribal health system. Doc said that he could make money charging $100/patient/month. That would work out to $240k a year for only 200 patients. When you consider the lack of stress it's a good idea. He is thinking about taking the whole practice of 12 doctors private concierge. Zero insurance to deal with. I am sure that certain pilots would be surprised that my successful doctor agrees with me on most of the points that I have made in this thread. He chewed out his brother the cardiologist for not listening to his patients.
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