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Post by stone on Aug 20, 2019 7:18:18 GMT -5
For a long time now I have wondered what brought about the punishment of having to put bright yellow DUI plates on your car if you got a DUI in Ohio?
While I certainly don't condone drinking and driving, there are rapists, murderers, child molesters, and even politicians driving around who don't have to make their transgressions public. Why does someone who has a DUI have to announce to the entire world that they F'd up?
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 20, 2019 7:26:05 GMT -5
I've made MANY mistakes in my life. The 2 that I look down upon myself for the most were the 2 DUIS.
I think anyone that commits a crime that can change someone else's life completely should have to wear a "scarlet letter" for their lifetime.
A DUI is no joke, I've paid dearly for mine, luckily, no one elses life was directly impacted by my idiotic decisions.
Give em a plate since their car is where they committed their crime, it's their warning label. It's a foolish act.
I believe people can change, dont get me wrong.
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Post by theloniousmonkfish on Aug 20, 2019 7:45:40 GMT -5
Have you spent time in Ohio? There are pockets of that state where near everyone on the road would not pass a breathalyzer. Also, it used to be a .10 to get one there. Not saying that Wisconsin doesn't drink but there is a good reason for the plates to stand out there.
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Post by stone on Aug 20, 2019 7:57:10 GMT -5
I've made MANY mistakes in my life. The 2 that I look down upon myself for the most were the 2 DUIS. I think anyone that commits a crime that can change someone else's life completely should have to wear a "scarlet letter" for their lifetime. A DUI is no joke, I've paid dearly for mine, luckily, no one elses life was directly impacted by my idiotic decisions. Give em a plate since their car is where they committed their crime, it's their warning label. It's a foolish act. I believe people can change, dont get me wrong. Josh, it's good that you can look back from a position of success! I just think there are a lot worse crimes than DUI being committed and those people don't have to wear the "scarlet letter". In fact, there is no other crime that I know of where you are branded like this. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2019 7:58:16 GMT -5
I don't see a problem with it. I have known people killed by drunk drivers and had a friend who spent a decade of his life in prison for causing an accident that took two lives.
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Post by stone on Aug 20, 2019 7:58:34 GMT -5
Have you spent time in Ohio? There are pockets of that state where near everyone on the road would not pass a breathalyzer. Also, it used to be a .10 to get one there. Not saying that Wisconsin doesn't drink but there is a good reason for the plates to stand out there. I live in Ohio and have spent time in every corner of the state, this simply isn't true. |
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Post by bigwoolie on Aug 20, 2019 8:03:47 GMT -5
The problem I see with it is that it doesn't actually brand the person with the "scarlet letter", it brands the vehicle. Thus, any innocent family member or friend who borrows or drives the car is automatically under suspension.
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Post by stone on Aug 20, 2019 8:04:10 GMT -5
I don't see a problem with it. I have known people killed by drunk drivers and had a friend who spent a decade of his life in prison for causing an accident that took two lives. Don't get me wrong, a crime is a crime. But why don't child molesters have to use bright neon blue plates, or murderers use bright red plates, or rapists use bright green plates? Why is it okay to go undetected from those crimes? I'm sure there is some group who is behind this but why is DUI singled out? |
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Post by theloniousmonkfish on Aug 20, 2019 8:09:49 GMT -5
We've lived very different lives. I'll speak no more of that state for both of us.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 20, 2019 8:17:27 GMT -5
I think the number of DUI arrest greatly outweigh the number of murderers and rapist.
I'm not making light of any of the matters.
Sex crimes become public record, a guy down the road is a sex offender for a statutory charge. Anyone can look him up, see where he lives, get alerts about him, etc.
I have my own thoughts on what I believe should happen to sex offenders, I'll keep those to myself. But a different color plate would not be the case.
However, I do understand where you're coming from about having the plate and someone else driving. But it's not a surprise when this happens. It's no different than the judge telling me i had to get a breathalyzer installed in my cars ignition for a year. It wouldnt matter who drove it, they would have to blow in it to get it started and every so often to keep it going. Fair to others? Nope..
But either is a DUI. I got the breathalyzer waived after attending a lot of alcohol support groups and being 100% sober for a year. The judge gave me the chance I needed to make my life right, and I took it.
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Post by theloniousmonkfish on Aug 20, 2019 8:18:20 GMT -5
I don't see a problem with it. I have known people killed by drunk drivers and had a friend who spent a decade of his life in prison for causing an accident that took two lives. Don't get me wrong, a crime is a crime. But why don't child molesters have to use bright neon blue plates, or murderers use bright red plates, or rapists use bright green plates? Why is it okay to go undetected from those crimes? I'm sure there is some group who is behind this but why is DUI singled out? DUI generates more money? |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 20, 2019 8:18:56 GMT -5
For a long time now I have wondered what brought about the punishment of having to put bright yellow DUI plates on your car if you got a DUI in Ohio?
While I certainly don't condone drinking and driving, there are rapists, murderers, child molesters, and even politicians driving around who don't have to make their transgressions public. Why does someone who has a DUI have to announce to the entire world that they F'd up?
100% in favor of this. I've had several family members killed by drunk drivers. Texas is the drunk driving capital of the US. Third offense gets a bullet in the head if you ask me. I wish we had that here. |
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Post by theloniousmonkfish on Aug 20, 2019 8:20:51 GMT -5
I think the number of DUI arrest greatly outweigh the number of murderers and rapist. I'm not making light of any of the matters. Sex crimes become public record, a guy down the road is a sex offender for a statutory charge. Anyone can look him up, see where he lives, get alerts about him, etc. I have my own thoughts on what I believe should happen to sex offenders, I'll keep those to myself. But a different color plate would not be the case. However, I do understand where you're coming from about having the plate and someone else driving. But it's not a surprise when this happens. It's no different than the judge telling me i had to get a breathalyzer installed in my cars ignition for a year. It wouldnt matter who drove it, they would have to blow in it to get it started and every so often to keep it going. Fair to others? Nope.. But either is a DUI. I got the breathalyzer waived after attending a lot of alcohol support groups and being 100% sober for a year. The judge gave me the chance I needed to make my life right, and I took it. Yeah, I worked in a couple garages, those are fun. |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 20, 2019 8:24:46 GMT -5
And expensive
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Post by Baboo on Aug 20, 2019 8:25:15 GMT -5
Time served is time served and that should end it (publicly for all to see). I call foul on the State of Ohio. Put the offense on the Drivers License and require all liquor stores to ID to determine if sale should be made or not per a State law.
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Post by stone on Aug 20, 2019 8:25:33 GMT -5
Maybe I worded this wrong? It's not a question of whether or not drunk driving should be punished but why can you commit pre-meditated murder, or habitual rape, and hide in plain sight while a DUI offender has to be branded? Why aren't the more heinous crimes treated the same?
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Post by briarbuck on Aug 20, 2019 8:26:31 GMT -5
Until people get serious about texting and driving, I should be able to drive around with a wet bar in the back of my car with a bartender.
Just sayin....
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 20, 2019 8:31:41 GMT -5
I agree that time served is time served. But that's also part of that. Time isnt served until the term of the punishment is fulfilled.
It's not like they have to wear that license plate into work, or wear a shirt everyday that says "I'm a drunk driver."
Also, is the tag a habitual violator thing? Or first offense? Is it duration, or lifetime?
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 20, 2019 8:32:07 GMT -5
Until people get serious about texting and driving, I should be able to drive around with a wet bar in the back of my car with a bartender. Just sayin.... So true! My phone goes in my glove box. |
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Post by trailboss on Aug 20, 2019 8:33:51 GMT -5
Until people get serious about texting and driving I should be able to drive around with a wet bar in the back of my car with a bartender. Just sayin.... Hear, Hear! From the vantage point of my tractor, I can see into most other cars and the numbers of distracted drivers is utterly ridiculous, and I have had way to many close calls. Each day I see plenty of cars with front and rear end damage off to the side of the road, many times in multiples...I believe (Based on the numbers of people I see looking down on their phones) that contributes heavily to the accidents I see. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 20, 2019 8:34:34 GMT -5
Maybe I worded this wrong? It's not a question of whether or not drunk driving should be punished but why can you commit pre-meditated murder, or habitual rape, and hide in plain sight while a DUI offender has to be branded? Why aren't the more heinous crimes treated the same? Brad Pitt as The Apache had the right idea. Carve it into their foreheads. |
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Post by stone on Aug 20, 2019 8:51:51 GMT -5
Maybe I worded this wrong? It's not a question of whether or not drunk driving should be punished but why can you commit pre-meditated murder, or habitual rape, and hide in plain sight while a DUI offender has to be branded? Why aren't the more heinous crimes treated the same? Brad Pitt as The Apache had the right idea. Carve it into their foreheads. Absolutely! |
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Post by stone on Aug 20, 2019 9:00:15 GMT -5
I think the number of DUI arrest greatly outweigh the number of murderers and rapist. I'm not making light of any of the matters. Sex crimes become public record, a guy down the road is a sex offender for a statutory charge. Anyone can look him up, see where he lives, get alerts about him, etc. I have my own thoughts on what I believe should happen to sex offenders, I'll keep those to myself. But a different color plate would not be the case. However, I do understand where you're coming from about having the plate and someone else driving. But it's not a surprise when this happens. It's no different than the judge telling me i had to get a breathalyzer installed in my cars ignition for a year. It wouldnt matter who drove it, they would have to blow in it to get it started and every so often to keep it going. Fair to others? Nope.. But either is a DUI. I got the breathalyzer waived after attending a lot of alcohol support groups and being 100% sober for a year. The judge gave me the chance I needed to make my life right, and I took it. Being able to "look up" a sex offender is very different than having to drive a vehicle with plates announcing you "are" a sex offender. I think if a sex offender had to drive with special plates, the ideas you are keeping to yourself, and I am keeping to myself, might just play out  A short ride to the store would produce deserving results.
Maybe we are onto something here! Issue color coded plates to announce the crime of the driver and let nature do what the legal system can't/won't.  |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 20, 2019 9:19:57 GMT -5
I'd love to be that force of "nature."  Please dont view me as a righteous arse. I've been on the receiving end of punishments by law most of my adult life. I completely understand all sides of this. I have very strong views towards all matters here (dui, sex crimes, murder, etc). Hell, give me a plate saying I had 2 duis 16 years ago. It beats the hell out of not having a license for 15 of those years. And itll also keep people from asking to borrow my car. As if it being a 5 speed, 95 civic doesnt ward off the needy anyway  |
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Post by Ronv69 on Aug 20, 2019 9:24:07 GMT -5
Not everyone labeled as a sex offender is one, an unfortunate side effect of our legal system. Repeat drunk drivers are most certainly repeat drunk drivers.
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Post by McWiggins on Aug 20, 2019 9:24:35 GMT -5
I agree. If you get a plate on your car showing conviction of a DUI then why not for rape, murder, theft, drug dealing and more? Why not have all crimes marked on one's car?
Store Clerk: I see the car you pulled up in marks you as a thief. I got my eye on you.
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Post by theloniousmonkfish on Aug 20, 2019 9:25:16 GMT -5
I'd totally borrow that car! What's the mileage? Quarter mill? Knowing cursive and stick shows your age...
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Post by Cramptholomew on Aug 20, 2019 9:28:34 GMT -5
I think the number of DUI arrest greatly outweigh the number of murderers and rapist. I'm not making light of any of the matters. Sex crimes become public record, a guy down the road is a sex offender for a statutory charge. Anyone can look him up, see where he lives, get alerts about him, etc. I have my own thoughts on what I believe should happen to sex offenders, I'll keep those to myself. But a different color plate would not be the case. However, I do understand where you're coming from about having the plate and someone else driving. But it's not a surprise when this happens. It's no different than the judge telling me i had to get a breathalyzer installed in my cars ignition for a year. It wouldnt matter who drove it, they would have to blow in it to get it started and every so often to keep it going. Fair to others? Nope.. But either is a DUI. I got the breathalyzer waived after attending a lot of alcohol support groups and being 100% sober for a year. The judge gave me the chance I needed to make my life right, and I took it. Yeah, I worked in a couple garages, those are fun. Yikes! |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Aug 20, 2019 9:29:41 GMT -5
262k! It's a honda, it's just now broken in!
It is fun to drive that little thing though, I'd never drive a car that wasnt a stick.
Im sitting here imagining what my "offender plate" colors would be.
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Post by theloniousmonkfish on Aug 20, 2019 9:38:52 GMT -5
262k! It's a honda, it's just now broken in! It is fun to drive that little thing though, I'd never drive a car that wasnt a stick. Im sitting here imagining what my "offender plate" colors would be. Nice! My uncle made it around 4 or 5 on his before it rusted out beyond drivability. My newerish Subaru is going to hit 200 by the end of the month I bet. Still breaking it in. Had a recall and took it in to the dealership for free work and a loaner. They were surprised it was stick! I was surprised they came in automatic! |
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A short ride to the store would produce deserving results.
