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Post by Kerley0319 on Sept 4, 2019 0:56:01 GMT -5
Does anybody on here grow tobacco themselves? If there is, I have a few questions. Anybody knowledgeable on the topic could help as well.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 4, 2019 2:36:33 GMT -5
We've a few people here who grow their own. Darin is one that comes to mind. Won't be long before someone offers helpful advice. |
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Post by Kerley0319 on Sept 4, 2019 2:57:39 GMT -5
Well ive been looking at the how-to's and im curious about ways to cure\ferment without having a kiln. I wouldnt be able to do big piles like the big guys. And im reading that the only way to ferment is with a kiln.
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Post by jitterbugdude on Sept 4, 2019 18:01:28 GMT -5
I've been growing for 25 years.
You can make a simple kiln by constructing a box (or use an old freezer or beer cooler). Put a heat source in like a light bulb or reptile heater, wire in a thermostat (very easy to do). Now for the easy part. Place your leaf at the proper moisture level into mason jars. Place in kiln, vent jars once a day and in 3 weeks you'll have some mighty fine tobacco.
You could make a much more complicated kiln by hanging your leaf and adding a humidifier (such as a crockpot) but I find the mason jar method ( or any type of container) to be much more simple. If you want to do very large volumes you can place your leaf into a big tupperware bin.
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Post by Kerley0319 on Sept 4, 2019 21:59:46 GMT -5
I've been growing for 25 years. You can make a simple kiln by constructing a box (or use an old freezer or beer cooler). Put a heat source in like a light bulb or reptile heater, wire in a thermostat (very easy to do). Now for the easy part. Place your leaf at the proper moisture level into mason jars. Place in kiln, vent jars once a day and in 3 weeks you'll have some mighty fine tobacco. You could make a much more complicated kiln by hanging your leaf and adding a humidifier (such as a crockpot) but I find the mason jar method ( or any type of container) to be much more simple. If you want to do very large volumes you can place your leaf into a big tupperware bin. Great! Thats good news. Wheres a good place to get seeds and do you have any recommendations on what kinds i should grow? I like straight virginias, VaPers. I want something i can cure/ferment easily. |
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Post by trailboss on Sept 4, 2019 22:23:55 GMT -5
You are good hands with JBD.... the dude knows his stuff!
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Sept 4, 2019 22:24:13 GMT -5
I would grow white kentucky burley or Virginia if it were me. Whichever of those two is easiest. Theyre simply a pleasure to smoke alone
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Post by jitterbugdude on Sept 5, 2019 11:01:02 GMT -5
Great! Thats good news. Wheres a good place to get seeds and do you have any recommendations on what kinds i should grow? I like straight virginias, VaPers. I want something i can cure/ferment easily. If you like Virginias the good news is you do not ferment them. The bad news is you would need to build a flue chamber ..or sun cure them. To sun -cure just strip your leaves and hang them out in the sun for a few days. You'll have to cover them in the evening though to prevent the dew from making them wet. Sun-curing will get you about a 75% equivalent flue cured leaf. If you were to just air dry a Virginia it would taste like a very bland Burley because all the sugars would be gone.
If you want to try your hand a making Perique (easy to do) make sure to grow some Burley. As for "White Burley" it doesn't exist anymore, at least not the kind that you read about that was discovered on a farm in the 1860's. What does exist today are White Stemmed Burley and Green Stemmed Burley. The White stemmed is what people now call White Burley.. so don't look for White Burley seeds.
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Post by Darin on Sept 5, 2019 14:03:18 GMT -5
You are good hands with JBD.... the dude knows his stuff! +1 ... I'm also happy to answer questions but Randy was one of my teachers as well and knows it through and through. |
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Post by Wizard on Sept 5, 2019 18:06:12 GMT -5
Growing your own baccy is very interesting. I’ll watch this thread for more info on it. 🧙🏼♂️
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Post by Darin on Sept 6, 2019 9:39:07 GMT -5
My grow was stunted again this year by the insane heat and drought.
Next year's crop will be started a month or more earlier (indoors) and harvested much sooner.
All in all, I got about 1.5 pounds of usable leaf this season and will use it to try making Chimo.
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Post by jitterbugdude on Sept 6, 2019 11:11:47 GMT -5
I did a small grow out this year, mainly to replenish my seed stock. I was able to harvest
10 Yellow Twist Bud for Dip
10 Belgium Burley(not to be confused with Semois, I have a very large supply of that on hand) for the wife's cigs and my pipe
10 "White Flower", a very strong heirloom dark Burley... to play around with
20 Limonka.. a Rustica that cures like a Virginia.. for my pipe
5 Glessnor (wrapper) for making Amercian style cigars from the 1880's
5 Lancaster Seedleaf (binder) to go with my American style cigars
All in all, I had a very nice grow this year.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 6, 2019 11:12:56 GMT -5
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Post by Darin on Sept 6, 2019 11:17:54 GMT -5
I did a small grow out this year, mainly to replenish my seed stock. I was able to harvest 10 Yellow Twist Bud for Dip 10 Belgium Burley(not to be confused with Semois, I have a very large supply of that on hand) for the wife's cigs and my pipe 10 "White Flower", a very strong heirloom dark Burley... to play around with 20 Limonka.. a Rustica that cures like a Virginia.. for my pipe 5 Glessnor (wrapper) for making Amercian style cigars from the 1880's 5 Lancaster Seedleaf (binder) to go with my American style cigars All in all, I had a very nice grow this year. Nice varieties! My best producers this time around were Havana 142 and Little Dutch. Semois struggled the most and was probably due to it's placement getting the most sun. |
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Post by crapgame on Sept 6, 2019 17:30:12 GMT -5
I love this thread!!! i will be watching it s well!!
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Post by crapgame on Sept 6, 2019 17:30:57 GMT -5
i also made it sticky just to be able to find it!
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Post by trailboss on Sept 6, 2019 18:31:43 GMT -5
Right now is perfect preparation time in Phoenix for winter crops, we rarely have frost, and I have plenty of frost cloth anyway...I have a brown thumb.
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Post by Kerley0319 on Nov 26, 2019 11:59:32 GMT -5
Does anybody have any suggestions for making snuff from home grown tobacco? Additives and whatnot?
How about something i could use to add in with my burley to smoke?
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Post by adui on Nov 26, 2019 12:18:46 GMT -5
Would tobacco grow well in the dry climate here in Phoenix? (future planning, at least a year or two away)
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Post by unknownpipesmoker on Nov 26, 2019 12:19:31 GMT -5
Does anybody have any suggestions for making snuff from home grown tobacco? Additives and whatnot? How about something i could use to add in with my burley to smoke? All I know is that snuff has salt in it. Maybe someone else knows more. But as far as I know. plain snuff is just most tobacco and a pinch of salt. |
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Post by Cramptholomew on Nov 26, 2019 14:19:12 GMT -5
Does anybody have any suggestions for making snuff from home grown tobacco? Additives and whatnot? How about something i could use to add in with my burley to smoke? All I know is that snuff has salt in it. Maybe someone else knows more. But as far as I know. plain snuff is just most tobacco and a pinch of salt. can weigh in here. Snuff can use several different salts to affect the nicotine uptake, and to make it more easily sniffed. I know sodium carbonate is one. Here's a link. I Googled it! snuffhouse.com/discussion/6032/snuff-making-101 |
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Post by jitterbugdude on Nov 27, 2019 7:11:26 GMT -5
Would tobacco grow well in the dry climate here in Phoenix? (future planning, at least a year or two away) Tobacco will grow fine in Arizona ( isn't Darin from there?). The problem you will have is curing. To cure, you'll need to hang your leaves and let them slowly dry out over about a 4-8 week period. With no humidity in AZ it's going to be tough. There are guys that will hang their leaf in a shed and hose the ground down once or twice a day to build up the humidity. You could also hang your leaf in your house (basement) like I did for several years until I built a barn.
Any variety will grow. Keep in mind that the Orientals are grown in an evironment very similar to yours.
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Post by adui on Nov 27, 2019 16:47:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the info Jitterbugdude. I'm at least a few years from having time and space to grow, but eventually it might be a fun experiment.
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