Wizard
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First Name: Angel
Favorite Pipe: Stanwell HCA Churchwarden Calabash Rustic, and Peterson Irish Harp with the sterling silver band and black and brown marble stem. And my 8 churchwardens Wizard pipes
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Post by Wizard on Sept 9, 2019 13:21:10 GMT -5
Newbie question-This topic may already be covered on this forum, but I can’t find it. I have read on pipe forums that some guys ream their bowls down to the wood. I find it hard to build a cake layer since I scrape my bowls clean after each smoke. So I guess NOT scraping the bowls after each smoke, would build a layer. So then why do some ream them down to the wood? Is a cake layer really that important? I have also read that a thick layer can crack a bowl when smoking it. What do you guys think? Thank you 🧙🏼♂️
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Post by McWiggins on Sept 9, 2019 13:28:58 GMT -5
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Wizard
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Posts: 443
First Name: Angel
Favorite Pipe: Stanwell HCA Churchwarden Calabash Rustic, and Peterson Irish Harp with the sterling silver band and black and brown marble stem. And my 8 churchwardens Wizard pipes
Favorite Tobacco: Burley and Latakia blends.
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Post by Wizard on Sept 9, 2019 13:39:57 GMT -5
Thank you mcwiggins for the link to another post which answers my question.🙂🧙🏼♂️
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 9, 2019 17:58:42 GMT -5
Almost none of my pipes have any serious amount of cake because I clean them too much. They smoke just fine.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 20:32:46 GMT -5
Morta is very slow to cake. I got mine at a big discount due to scoring in the chamber when it was made. Two years later, it is just beginning to be caked.
A percentage of pipers don't like cake in their pipes at all, so Morta is a good choice for them.
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Post by roadsdiverged on Sept 9, 2019 20:36:44 GMT -5
Cake free here, for the most part anyway. Most of mine have very very little.
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Post by McWiggins on Sept 9, 2019 20:41:54 GMT -5
Cake free here, for the most part anyway. Most of mine have very very little. Dito. Briar gets a light twist from a paper towel after every bowl so while not bare wood, its a light char/cake layer. Cobs just get blown out and thus are building more of a cake layer. |
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Post by roadsdiverged on Sept 9, 2019 23:36:07 GMT -5
My cobs definitely have cake. Since Legends are quick smokes, they've been getting their run for the money this summer. I've scraped pretty thick cake out of both of them twice already.
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Wizard
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Posts: 443
First Name: Angel
Favorite Pipe: Stanwell HCA Churchwarden Calabash Rustic, and Peterson Irish Harp with the sterling silver band and black and brown marble stem. And my 8 churchwardens Wizard pipes
Favorite Tobacco: Burley and Latakia blends.
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Post by Wizard on Sept 10, 2019 0:46:12 GMT -5
Thanks guys for all your input, it really does help me a lot to know the
Full story of cake layers, & helps me decide what to do about it.🙂🧙🏼♂️
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 10, 2019 3:22:51 GMT -5
I don't try to get a cake. I run a pipe cleaner through the stem and bowl after each smoke and there's a small layer of char/cake. It's not intentional. It just happens.
I don't notice any difference between the smoke from a pipe with cake and a pipe without.
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captblack
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Post by captblack on Sept 10, 2019 9:46:07 GMT -5
No cake here, if it gets too thick I remove it. I haven't noticed any difference in smoking between the two.
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Post by monbla256 on Sept 10, 2019 16:31:42 GMT -5
All of my pipes have cake but no more than a 1/16 " and I keep 'em that way. For me it helps in smoothing and cooling the smoke. Been doing it that way for over 40 years now and it works for me ! 
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Post by instymp on Sept 10, 2019 17:24:25 GMT -5
All of mine are a as thick as a dime. Or less.
So, I always wondered, if you are smoking a tobacco out of a caked pipe, what difference would the taste be regardless of which wood it is made from? And everyone has a degree of cake, some more, some less.
So if all taste might be the same, tobacco smoked in cake, then the only difference would be eye appeal, weight, the way the pipe feels in your hand, heat transfer etc. Where am I wrong?
I have too much time on my hands.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 18:11:43 GMT -5
All of mine are a as thick as a dime. Or less. So, I always wondered, if you are smoking a tobacco out of a caked pipe, what difference would the taste be regardless of which wood it is made from? And everyone has a degree of cake, some more, some less. So if all taste might be the same, tobacco smoked in cake, then the only difference would be eye appeal, weight, the way the pipe feels in your hand, heat transfer etc. Where am I wrong? I have too much time on my hands. Your question is not a waste of time. I have posted it elsewhere in the past. If you have a thick cake is a Dunhill going to smoke appreciably better than a Kaywoodie? Or are you smoking/comparing the shank, when the bowl is thickly caked? There was no definitive answer, but it did produce some strong opinions.  |
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Post by roberted5 on Sept 10, 2019 20:42:24 GMT -5
It’s personal preference and with some blends I prefer cake on others as thin as possible.
Some of my pipes build up cake very quickly and some don’t.Some blends cake up faster than others.
I get cake fast smoking Mississippi River in some pipes but not all.
I think pipes that build up cake faster have better flavor but I always smoke my best smokers more so is it cake or just the fact I smoke them more ??
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 11, 2019 2:04:17 GMT -5
All of mine are a as thick as a dime. Or less. So, I always wondered, if you are smoking a tobacco out of a caked pipe, what difference would the taste be regardless of which wood it is made from? And everyone has a degree of cake, some more, some less. So if all taste might be the same, tobacco smoked in cake, then the only difference would be eye appeal, weight, the way the pipe feels in your hand, heat transfer etc. Where am I wrong? I have too much time on my hands. That was one of my first questions when joining the patch... thebriarpatchforum.com/thread/2811/cake-normalise-pipesThat Falls Guy, how's that experiment coming on? |
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Post by Wolfman on Sept 17, 2019 8:21:57 GMT -5
The only cakes For me are German Black Forest and chocolate blackout cake. Other than that, I wipe my bowl with a paper towel after each smoke.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Sept 17, 2019 8:48:50 GMT -5
The only cakes For me are German Black Forest and chocolate blackout cake. Other than that, I wipe my bowl with a paper towel after each smoke. Where do you get your "blackout cake"? I'm not a chain restaurant guy, but Cheesecake Factory has a blackout cake that just destroys all other chocolate cakes, IMO. They used to make Mississippi Mud with the cake, coffee ice cream, whipped cream, and chocolate sauce. They don't have it on the menu anymore, but if I have a craving, I go there and order it a la carte. |
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Post by Wolfman on Sept 17, 2019 9:49:48 GMT -5
The only cakes For me are German Black Forest and chocolate blackout cake. Other than that, I wipe my bowl with a paper towel after each smoke. Where do you get your "blackout cake"? I'm not a chain restaurant guy, but Cheesecake Factory has a blackout cake that just destroys all other chocolate cakes, IMO. They used to make Mississippi Mud with the cake, coffee ice cream, whipped cream, and chocolate sauce. They don't have it on the menu anymore, but if I have a craving, I go there and order it a la carte. There’s a local bakery by me that sells it. That and Entenmann's |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Sept 17, 2019 10:03:17 GMT -5
 A small layer of cake is very important, it insulates the wood, preserving the pipe, a wipe down with a paper towel helps keep a thin layer. Pipe with the right smoking technique and dry tobbaco will smoke cooler , doesn’t take s lot. In the chemical industry we fired huge furnaces at 2000 degrees, we shot the tubes once a week, as cconversion of the gas oil in the pipes was critical, I can tell you a thin layer of coke affected the conversion. We cut the feed out and did what we call decokeing, which restored the conversion factor. If you keep a thin layer of coke in your pipes you will preserve them. That’s my 2 cents.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2019 11:21:22 GMT -5
No thick cake for me I corkscrew a paper towel after every smoke. What cake there is very hard and I have never had to ream a pipe other than estates. It needs to be there because of soft spots in the briar that could cause a burnout. As for thickness to each his own.
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Wizard
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Posts: 443
First Name: Angel
Favorite Pipe: Stanwell HCA Churchwarden Calabash Rustic, and Peterson Irish Harp with the sterling silver band and black and brown marble stem. And my 8 churchwardens Wizard pipes
Favorite Tobacco: Burley and Latakia blends.
Location:
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Post by Wizard on Oct 7, 2019 13:25:23 GMT -5
Newbie question-This topic may already be covered on this forum, but I can’t find it. I have read on pipe forums that some guys ream their bowls down to the wood. I find it hard to build a cake layer since I scrape my bowls clean after each smoke. So I guess NOT scraping the bowls after each smoke, would build a layer. So then why do some ream them down to the wood? Is a cake layer really that important? I have also read that a thick layer can crack a bowl when smoking it. What do you guys think? Thank you 🧙🏼♂️ I am finding out that yes for me personally, a cake layer is important. It gives my pipes an overal sweetness on a dry draw. So I will be making & maintaining cake layers in all my pipes. I like them.😀🧙🏼♂️ |
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Post by Penzaholic on Oct 23, 2019 12:32:33 GMT -5
I never allow a cake layer to form, can’t see the advantages of having a layer of carbon built up.
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Post by toshtego on Oct 23, 2019 12:55:12 GMT -5
It seems I have maintained a cake layer around my midsection for a long time. Hard to get rid of.
I kept a decent cake layer in my pipes but would scrape it down when it became so thick as to reduce the amount of tobacco stuffed in there. Pipes always smoked cooler and drier.
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A small layer of cake is very important, it insulates the wood, preserving the pipe, a wipe down with a paper towel helps keep a thin layer. Pipe with the right smoking technique and dry tobbaco will smoke cooler , doesn’t take s lot. In the chemical industry we fired huge furnaces at 2000 degrees, we shot the tubes once a week, as cconversion of the gas oil in the pipes was critical, I can tell you a thin layer of coke affected the conversion. We cut the feed out and did what we call decokeing, which restored the conversion factor. If you keep a thin layer of coke in your pipes you will preserve them. That’s my 2 cents.
