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I haven't taken it,but I know some folks who say it helps them.

Thanks guys appreciate the info, as far as Acupuncture I won't go there. Had a friend go through it for pain and ended up with debilitating pain he couldn't get rid of. I'm sure there are some out there that know what there doing but, what does one look like?
And for that reason I decline anyone poking needles into to me.

I tried it for a few weeks ,a while back; I worked inside 36 to 40 degree coolers for thirty plus years, so stiffness and joint pain got to be a daily problem.
I got the CBD oil from CVS and at three times a day I saw some good results after only two weeks...by that I mean less pain and more freedom of movement.
At one time I was taking 800MGs of ibuprofen, four times a day, and your gut wont take that for long...
Problem with me is ,if I feel good I tend to skip the pain meds till I need them again...with CBD oil ,I think the trick is to get it in your system and keep it there.
I retired back in June and now ,out of the coolers and off concert floors I have a lot less trouble; sounds like you need an ongoing program.
I hate to say this as much as you hate to hear it, but you should always talk to your doctor when you add anything to your medical program.
As to BUZZ, your brain cells are safe from that, but let your Doc safeguard your other organs.
Good luck, Herb.

Can they do laser discectomy it is the least invasive and I have good results with it. Down time is almost nil and relieves pain almost instantly.

With the opioid issue and 99% blame put on the drug companies and doctors, I wouldnt hold much hope for getting strong meds to help. Despite substantial evidence of those who use that kind of medication on a regular basis without addiction issue is much greater than those who become drug addicts, as far as society is concerned and are lawmakers, everybody will become an addict no matter what. As I undersrand it, its less than either 4 or 7 percent will develop an addiction. But this can go crazy political so I digress.

Another idea is yoga. While I haven't tried it myself my wife has and a few others I know have. You don't have to do all the crazy positions with extreme flexibility but more "beginner" moves. It has quite a lot of evidence showing great results in many who were told they would need assistance in walking the rest of their life. I honestly keep thinking I need to give it a try. Thirty minutes a day could make the rest of the hours more enjoyable.

Just another idea as nothing is for everyone but one never knows without trying.

For lumbar disc bulges, I have had excellent results with two different chiropractors in two cities on diffrent occassions. The therapy worked something like this. While in a prone position on a table, the first step is to completely relax the muscles supporting the spine. What often happens with disc bulges is these muscles turn rigid to assist in supporting your torso. To make any adjustments to the vertebrae, the muscles must be relaxed. heat is applied, some massage may be in order. Then electrodes are attached, perhaps as many as ten. These are connected by wire to an electric muscle stimulator. Low current is passed through to the muscles which can twitch or vibrate. This goes on for perhaps 20 minutes. At this point additional heat might be applied. When these muscles are about like dead meat, the Chiropractor can begin slow massage of the entire back from neck to pelvis. The goal is to lengthen the spine which enables the bulging discs to return to their natural position. The massage has to be slow, steady and complete. The entire process can take about two hours. Once this completed, the pain fades away as the discs are cushioning the vertebrae which are no longer impacting the nerves. You should be able to resume normal functioning with light duties. The most important on-going therapy is regular walking. This is walking on LEVEL ground, preferably on pavement so there is not tripping or stumbling over obstacles. About 20 minutes twice daily.This will preserve your spinal alignment and tone the muscles supporting the spine. Do not twist your back. Be-careful lifting. Limit the time you remain sitting to one hour, then get up and walk around.

This may sound like Hoodoo to you but it worked for me. One more note. You will need to question potential Chiropractors about this therapy as some do not want to spend the time. It has to be done the right way as described. Also, you may need a spinal X-ray before the Chiropractor can begin work. This to esure your back is not broken or fractured.

Good luck and feel better soon.

There is THC in CBD derived from cannabis (generally those are the full spectrum CBD's). You won't get "high" but could fail a drug test if it builds up in your system over time (it's oil based and takes time to wash through your system). 


Hemp based CBD is usually not full-spectrum but it now can be sold all over the US.


I certainly would be looking at FULL Spectrum CBD considering what you are wrestling with.   Best wishes to you. 

There is nothing wrong with Hemp based CBD products. They may not have the potency of Cannabis but there are still benefits. A friend is studying the effects of pain and CBD in Boulder. It's an evolving business.

The DOT and FAA put out a memo about this a while back, about how anyone who needs to pass drug tests shouldn't trust any CBD product to be THC free, because no matter how they're advertised, they usually contain enough THC to build up and cause a positive drug test.

However, if you don't need to worry about passing a drug test, I wouldn't think twice about at least trying CBD products, and hell, maybe even real marijuana as well. CBD and marijuana can be talked about as snake oil / miracle cures these days and most of the claims are bogus, but there is good evidence that marijuana is useful for two things: controlling certain types of seizures, and pain.

The results vary for different individuals, but the very very worst thing that can happen is, it doesn't help with your pain and you're temporarily buzzed (in the case of marijuana; there'll probably never be enough THC in a CBD product for you to feel it). Marijuana is non-addictive so there's no real negatives to trying it; if you don't like the feeling just go to bed, and you'll know not to try it again .

I don't have personal experience with any of this but I have several close friends who do, and I absolutely believe them when they say it helps with pain (two of them swear by CBD products when they throw their backs out).

I hope you find some relief, whatever you try.

I've struggled with chronic pain for years. Pain meds have been of limited benefit. Acupuncture has helped, but at $80 per session and not covered by my insurance it's not something I can afford with the session frequency I needed. Tai Chi classes for senors vs. the more routine faster paced classes available has been of some help. My chronic pain issues have also caused me to live with daily insomnia issues as well.

There's tons of CBD products available these days. After a lot of research I started using a full spectrum CBD tincture purchased from a store specializing in CBD products only. I didn't want to deal with gas station, health food, coffee shop etc. type retailers where the quality of the CBD being sold could be possibly questionable. The CBD I ended up using is available in a CBD specialized store only as well as via online purchasing.

I have been using full spectrum CBD tinctures for 10 months. I started with lower than recommended dosages and gradually increased the amount used until I found a level that helps. It took daily use over approximately 6 weeks before I started experiencing pain relief and really good relief from my insomnia issues. I have never experienced any form of high or buzzed feeling. One could drink an entire bottle of tincture without feeling a high! I am not fooling myself into thinking CBD has healed any of my bone and joint pain issues. I do feel that it has had an impact on the inflammation I have been experiencing thus reducing the amount of pain I've experienced. It has also helped with the anxiety that would kick in every night over not being able to get and stay comfortable for sleeping and I now enjoy full normal nights of sleep. That in turn helps me to feel more rested and energized for daily life the next morning.

After 8 months of CBD use I showed the bottle of CBD tincture I have been using to my primary care physician and asked that he order full disclosure lab work which would indicate what if any harm might be occurring to my organs and systems. He said he didn't expect to find anything from the CBD use, but he ordered more lab work than I had ever had during an annual physical. Everything came back within the normal ranges. He was pleased I had found something that helped especially with my insomnia problems since he had always refused to prescribe sleep type meds for me. He now selectively is referring some of his other patients to try the CBD products from my regular retailer.

It may not help everyone, but it's worth a try. Just don't be discouraged with short term use and/or minimal dosages not helping. Each person's system is different and the dosage needed and length of consistent use can vary before satisfactory results are experienced.