California: Statewide ban on smoking at beaches

I suppose that sugar, trans fats etc. aren't going to harm others like people THINK atmospheric smoke does.

But if you follow their logic, they should ban cars from driving to the beach, and ban farming which produces harmful gases, and ban electric plants. There's more danger in the atmosphere than what a little smoke would cause, imo.

There may well be a fire hazard though... Although I find that hard to imagine in a place full of sand.

More tales from the one of the two left coasts. I am really starting to believe in vapor trails and CIA propaganda stories.

If smokers stop going to the beaches.It's just another step in separating them from society. Probably the objective in the first place.

The beaches in Texas are guaranteed to be accessible by the public by the constitution. If you own beach front property you don't own the beach. Technically, they are considered part of the state highway system. Reasonable rules like no vehicles in the popular beaches like Stewart Beach in Galveston have more rules, but you always have reasonable access. Glass is banned for obvious reason. Smoking is OK, but dropping cigarette butts is considered "Messing with Texas" and can incur a $200+ fine for littering. Anything between the water and the dune line is for the people. You cannot keep people from walking across your property to get to the beach if it's the closest reasonable access point. If the storm washes away the beach in front of your home, your home is for all practical purposes now in the middle of the highway and you have lost it. There are no "nude beaches per se, but if no one is around to complain you won't be harassed. If you are drinking beer out of cans you can be drunk as long as you are not disorderly.

They have a bill in trying to outlaw fur & leather clothing also.

I say go for it rules are meant to be broken.

Remember that you can't smoke around any flammable vegetation either. Maybe in a parking lot.

Too broad a statement, for sure. Same as you on the above, and I often pick up litter, etc. 

But in some sense, we're all part of the machine that produces unnecessary packaging, irresponsible politicians, and a general lowering of regard for our fellow man. 

This is true. My earlier statement about Refuse Island was stating the direct geographical source of the Pacific Trash heap, but human consumption and disposal is its base impetus.

The ocean is a pretty big place and a island of floating plastic in a doldrum is like a spec of sand on the beach. Of course all that recycling only works when the gov-ment subsidises it. China is not buying our used plastic or our waste paper these days. One big volcano eruption puts out more Co2 than all the cows farting at once. I personally don't worry to much about saving the planet the planet has endured more than mans trash.

We were doing recycling in our neighborhood, but when the contract came up the trash collection companies told us that it all is going to be dumped together because there is no profit in recycling. Maybe one case for (I hate to say it) government subsidies? Some real incentives to reduce packaging materials by 50%? It would be worth it to me to spend a few bucks a year on practical ways to clean up the planet. I don't have much time left here, but I have some really fantastic great great neices and nephews that I have concerns for. The packaging for some stuff is ridiculous. OTC Nexium used 3 bottles inside an elaborate box to hold 42 tiny pills that could fit in a tablespoon.

California is just getting less and less livable every day.