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Post by trailboss on Nov 13, 2019 23:36:05 GMT -5
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Post by Penzaholic on Nov 14, 2019 0:04:03 GMT -5
I use to work with a lot of Phd's at Owens Corning Fiberglas Technical Center and some of them were complete idiots with zero common sense.
We are all idiots, only on different subjects.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 0:56:51 GMT -5
Second hand smoke is nonsense/anti propaganda. Third hand smoke is absurd. First hand experience. Only exception is if the second hand person already has ashma, etc, issues. In that case, don't smoke around them - common sense.
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Post by trailboss on Nov 14, 2019 1:04:28 GMT -5
Second hand smoke is nonsense/anti propaganda. Third hand smoke is absurd. First hand experience. Only exception is if the second hand person already has ashma, etc, issues. In that case, don't smoke around them - common sense.I could not agree more.
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Post by Wolfman on Nov 14, 2019 1:06:51 GMT -5
“ no association between childhood exposure to ETS and lung cancer risk.”
When I was a kid everyone smoked everywhere. It’s just what people did. One would wonder how those kids;( my generation) didn’t get sick. I’m not one to throw all caution to the wind,‘but the studies have been conducted and I could understand why The WHO wants this buried.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2019 1:10:49 GMT -5
When I was a kid everyone smoked everywhere. It’s just what people did. One would wonder how those kids;( my generation) didn’t get sick. We're probably of the same generation. My dad smoked a pipe, my friends parents smoked cigarettes. We should all be dead from lung cancer, but aren't. The conclussion is obvious.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 14, 2019 7:10:21 GMT -5
What they all said!
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Post by roadsdiverged on Nov 14, 2019 8:09:28 GMT -5
My dad always smoked with the windows up in the truck. Mmm Drakkar, Coffee and Marlboro Lights... every....single...morning. My parents smoked inside, so did the rest of my family.
At the last doctors appointment for the twins their regular dr. wasnt there so we had someone else. He asked if anyone smoked in the home. I said no, not inside. He said "well, if you smoke, when you're done you should change your shirt before handling the babies. The shirt catches all the nasty stuff and poses a risk to them." My reply "you've got to be kidding me." We haven't seen that dr. again and never will.
I love when things go against what "they" want you to believe and are quickly dismissed and hidden.
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Post by chasingembers on Nov 14, 2019 9:50:56 GMT -5
One would wonder how those kids;( my generation) didn’t get sick. We didn't get slathered in Purell when we got our hands dirty. We actually built up defenses to the world around us.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 14, 2019 9:56:57 GMT -5
Re: Josh's comment...
"The shirt catches all the nasty stuff and poses a risk to them." That kinda Dr. I would stay well away from...cause he is a moron and it might be catching.
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Post by driftingfate on Nov 15, 2019 14:36:25 GMT -5
I have a doctor who won’t even prescribe me meds if I’ve been “exposed” to second hand smoke. He says it is against the doctor/patient agreement.
Now, I try to be an honest man, but when dealing with such bullheaded stupidity, one sometimes needs to lie their way out of a foolish situation.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Nov 15, 2019 14:51:58 GMT -5
I have a doctor who won’t even prescribe me meds if I’ve been “exposed” to second hand smoke. He says it is against the doctor/patient agreement. Now, I try to be an honest man, but when dealing with such bullheaded stupidity, one sometimes needs to lie their way out of a foolish situation. You got that right!!!!
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Post by trailboss on Nov 16, 2019 8:47:36 GMT -5
Tom Gresham has another way of saying it... I cannot remember exactly, but it is something like “Some people are not entitled to hear the truth.
An honest person doesn’t want to lie, but an intellectually dishonest person has no qualms about using that person’s honesty for their own benefit.
It is sad that the doctor is such a bonehead that he thinks secondhand smoke is a problem.... I would question his ability to practice medicine.
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Post by qmechanics on Nov 18, 2019 8:46:06 GMT -5
I am the third... My name has III attached to it in order to tell the difference between my father's and grandfather's names. I have a title as well, though I hardly ever use it, except in professional circles and only when it is required. Given the state of things, I might never use the title ever again. Of course, this has little to do with the actual meaning of the thread. However, in typical Q fashion, I found my dilemma amusing.
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 18, 2019 15:04:10 GMT -5
I am the third... My name has III attached to it in order to tell the difference between my father's and grandfather's names. I have a title as well, though I hardly ever use it, except in professional circles and only when it is required. Given the state of things, I might never use the title ever again. Of course, this has little to do with the actual meaning of the thread. However, in typical Q fashion, I found my dilemma amusing. my name is so long and complicated, it's more of a hassle to use my titles. But I'm OK with that. It helps keep me grounded.
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Post by instymp on Nov 18, 2019 18:03:52 GMT -5
Have 3 friends with DR after their names, one is nuts (love him), one is half nuts & the other is normal (Mostly)
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Post by monbla256 on Nov 18, 2019 18:32:57 GMT -5
Second hand smoke is nonsense/anti propaganda. Third hand smoke is absurd. First hand experience. Only exception is if the second hand person already has ashma, etc, issues. In that case, don't smoke around them - common sense. After 40+ years of smoking I was diagnosed with COPD. Can't really say it was or was not caused by smoking but I have it! Remember "Figures don't lie, but liars can Figure"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 19:20:23 GMT -5
Second hand smoke is nonsense/anti propaganda. Third hand smoke is absurd. First hand experience. Only exception is if the second hand person already has ashma, etc, issues. In that case, don't smoke around them - common sense. After 40+ years of smoking I was diagnosed with COPD. Can't really say it was or was not caused by smoking but I have it! Remember "Figures don't lie, but liars can Figure" I'm sorry to hear that you have COPD, Michael. I've known other long time pipe smokers that have been diagnosed with it as well. Did you previously smoke cigarettes or ever inhale when you smoke your pipe?
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Post by monbla256 on Nov 21, 2019 20:11:47 GMT -5
After 40+ years of smoking I was diagnosed with COPD. Can't really say it was or was not caused by smoking but I have it! Remember "Figures don't lie, but liars can Figure" I'm sorry to hear that you have COPD, Michael. I've known other long time pipe smokers that have been diagnosed with it as well. Did you previously smoke cigarettes or ever inhale when you smoke your pipe? I did smoke cigs off/on and as we all do ( though most deny it) I do inhale my pipe at times. The thing that gets me is how we pipe smokers set ourselves up as being "better" than cig smokers. We ALL are ingesting a known narcotic into our system and we know what that can do! Some honesty and such about our habit . Just my 2 cents worth
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 20:31:57 GMT -5
I have COPD too plus Asthma. Couple that with a Peptic Ulcer and I have to be careful regarding tobacco strength. I do not castigate cigarette smokers, they are fellow travellers.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2019 20:33:58 GMT -5
I'm sorry to hear that you have COPD, Michael. I've known other long time pipe smokers that have been diagnosed with it as well. Did you previously smoke cigarettes or ever inhale when you smoke your pipe? I did smoke cigs off/on and as we all do ( though most deny it) I do inhale my pipe at times. The thing that gets me is how we pipe smokers set ourselves up as being "better" than cig smokers. We ALL are ingesting a known narcotic into our system and we know what that can do! Some honesty and such about our habit . Just my 2 cents worth I was just curious, not judging and certainly not imagining myself to be superior to anyone. I think we're all aware that we are taking a risk. I'm certainly not denying it. My original comment is my opinion on second and third hand smoke as someone who grew up around it.
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Post by trailboss on Nov 22, 2019 0:14:57 GMT -5
I took a puff on a cigarette as a teenager once never went back...I cannot comprehend smoking butts. Like Bill, I do not inhale, although trace amounts I am sure go into my lungs. I have been training with a non smoker all week, and have not lit a pipe once...and I am not jonesing for a smoke like a cigarette smoker would...and in the pre-employment physical...the doctor told me that I took first place in a pulmonary test... www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/treatment-tests-and-therapies/pulmonary-function-testsI have never fed the pockets of Reynolds or Philip Morris...who really played a big part in driving the anti-tobacco laws thanks to their actions. And cigarette smokers have done the dirty deed of littering the world with discarded butts...it seems that precious few have the ability to discard the butts responsibly. No...I am not in it with the cigarette smoker. And no...Nicotene is not a narcotic. I don't claim to be better than a cigarette smoker, but I do not qualify with being lumped into the same category as one.
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Post by Legend Lover on Nov 22, 2019 15:33:19 GMT -5
I think we all know there's a risk with pipe smoking, but at the same time, I believe it to be a lot less of a risk than with other vices.
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Post by instymp on Nov 22, 2019 17:49:02 GMT -5
I have COPD too plus Asthma. Couple that with a Peptic Ulcer and I have to be careful regarding tobacco strength. I do not castigate cigarette smokers, they are fellow travellers. Me too, COPD & Asthma. Don't inhale. Glad to see another non-combatant.
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Post by LSUTigersFan on Nov 22, 2019 19:24:43 GMT -5
I have JD behind my name. Many people falsely believe it stands for Juris Doctorate, and it the result of graduating law school. In actually, it signifies someone who can drink to excess regularly, deal with severe hangovers and still find their way law school building more often than not, is able to save enough money to buy a good bar study guide and is willing to deal with a week of hell taking the bar exam.
Remember, knowledge is power!!
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Post by robd on Nov 26, 2019 23:34:30 GMT -5
My town just passed a no smoking ordinance for the whole town despite the absence of any evidence that outdoor second-hand smoke has any effect on health. OK to smoke on personal property and where one is "not likely to encounter another person." That vagueness would never stand up in court but I don't want to be the one to test it.
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Post by taharris on Nov 27, 2019 6:48:54 GMT -5
I have a doctor who won’t even prescribe me meds if I’ve been “exposed” to second hand smoke. He says it is against the doctor/patient agreement. Now, I try to be an honest man, but when dealing with such bullheaded stupidity, one sometimes needs to lie their way out of a foolish situation. Time to find a new doctor.
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