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Rick Newcombe's article. Feb 4, 2017 13:43:54 GMT -5 antb likes this

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Post by trailboss on Feb 4, 2017 13:43:54 GMT -5

If you haven't read it yet, Please take the time....Rick wrote a very thoughtful piece:

reason.com/archives/2016/12/13/the-fdas-unauthorized-war-on-pipes-and-c

If you would like to take it a bit further, and come out of the choir loft...

and contact your elected officials, Brian Levine has offered to email a copy that is formatted better to print or send as an attachment, his email is brian@pipesmagazine.com. I would be happy also, to forward it on to anyone else, just pm me your email address and I will get it to you.

I wrote a short cover letter, letting President Trump, my two senators, and my congressman know about how the FDA regs will affect my choice at the simple enjoyment of a pipe that is a safer alternative to cigarettes, and I asked them to thoughtfully consider the article that Rick wrote.

If, and when I receive response(s), I will post them on this thread.

Last Edit: Feb 4, 2017 13:44:50 GMT -5 by trailboss

"Governments may think and say as they like, but force cannot be eliminated, and it is the only real and unanswerable power. We are told that the pen is mightier than the sword, but I know which of these weapons I would choose."~Sir Adrian

crapgame Moderator Drawing of my beloved Daisy by my mom from picture my wife and daughter took for father's day Posts: 2,470 First Name: Mike Favorite Pipe: The one I have smoking right this minute Favorite Tobacco: A few codger OTC.. My own blends, english, aromatics, Va/pers, well anything but Lakelands so it seems Location:	Rick Newcombe's article. Feb 5, 2017 12:30:10 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by crapgame on Feb 5, 2017 12:30:10 GMT -5 To me,this is just another example of throwing something against the wall and seeing if it sticks..I may be wrong tho,,
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papipeguy Moderator Consigliere Posts: 5,577 First Name: John Favorite Pipe: Any of my 6 Gabrieli's, my 2 RD Pipes and 2 JZP pipes. Favorite Tobacco: Warrior Plug and War Horse Bar. Location:	Rick Newcombe's article. Feb 5, 2017 13:09:49 GMT -5 crapgame likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by papipeguy on Feb 5, 2017 13:09:49 GMT -5 One squeaky wheel may not be heard but several thousand are hoard to ignore. Added pressure from trade groups also helps. You can bet that I'll be sending letters and I'll recruit the members of our pipe club as well.
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Rick Newcombe's article. Feb 5, 2017 13:19:58 GMT -5

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Feb 5, 2017 13:09:49 GMT -5 papipeguy said:

One squeaky wheel may not be heard but several thousand are hoard to ignore. Added pressure from trade groups also helps. You can bet that I'll be sending letters and I'll recruit the members of our pipe club as well.

Do you have petition links links available John?

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Rick Newcombe's article. Feb 5, 2017 14:32:34 GMT -5

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Thanks for this Charlie. The hyperbole in the concluding remarks is a little over the top but I appreciate the passion. I've already been in contact with both Senators McConnell and Paul regarding this issue.

Not to be political but the bigger issue for me is pipe smokers being tossed under the bus with health insurance companies and charged exorbitant rates. An individual who vapes on a regular basis will probably have a higher nicotine blood content level than myself on any given day; nevertheless, Anthem still allowed them to qualify for non-smoker rates with the corporation I retired from in September while I paid higher smoker rates. I could have lied about it but that's not in my DNA.

Nothing against those who choose to vape; however, I fear unrestrained health insurance companies more than the government on this one.

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Rick Newcombe's article. Feb 5, 2017 16:45:46 GMT -5 via mobile crapgame likes this

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Post by trailboss on Feb 5, 2017 16:45:46 GMT -5

I hear you... I read a vape article where they decided to blame anyone that actually smokes as part of the problem, and in their defense, they group all smokers together as they throw us under the bus.

It seems the cigar smokers are carving out their own trail of defense also.

I understand separating from cigarette producers, they pretty much poisoned the collective mental well in regards to the harms of smoking, by word, deed, and buying off politicians.

The rest of us do a pretty good job of dividing ourselves for the conqueror.

Certainly not meant to be political, but collective healthcare naturally will lead to looking out for the greater good of the covered... our hobby has been demonized in the mind of most, we are definitely in the minority.

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"Governments may think and say as they like, but force cannot be eliminated, and it is the only real and unanswerable power. We are told that the pen is mightier than the sword, but I know which of these weapons I would choose."~Sir Adrian

Rick Newcombe's article.

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