|
Post by peteguy on Feb 17, 2020 14:47:47 GMT -5
How rare is a Stanwell Queen? GR14 stamp - is that a grade or a shape? Any info on the chess series would be appreciated.
|
|
|
Post by Ronv69 on Feb 17, 2020 15:04:25 GMT -5
I buy Scandias, the cheaper version. 😁
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 16:59:16 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by peteguy on Feb 17, 2020 17:13:09 GMT -5
Thanks big K. I didn't know that about the $ on images.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 17:29:26 GMT -5
The older Stanwell pipes have lower shape numbers and will say hand cut. The Queen is probably later than the 70s. That is what I am thinking so a grain of salt as they say.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 19:33:03 GMT -5
The "Queen" is the second highest grade of the Stanwell Freehand series per Smoking Pipes. The pipe they show was sold in the 70's so I would think there an older model, that and this style Freehands aren't as popular as they were back in the 70's.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2020 20:02:04 GMT -5
The "Queen" is the second highest grade of the Stanwell Freehand series per Smoking Pipes. The pipe they show was sold in the 70's so I would think there an older model, that and this style Freehands aren't as popular as they were back in the 70's. I made a mistake and misspoke, the pipe I viewed did NOT sell in the 70's, it sold in 07 as an estate, my dyslexia is showing it's ugly head again.
|
|
|
Post by peteguy on Feb 20, 2020 19:02:16 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by peteguy on Feb 20, 2020 19:03:00 GMT -5
Nicest Stanwell I have ever seen. It seems high end for Stanwell, that is what has me thrown off.
|
|
|
Post by bigwoolie on Feb 20, 2020 19:10:42 GMT -5
Nicest Stanwell I have ever seen. It seems high end for Stanwell, that is what has me thrown off. That pipe is absolutely beautiful.
|
|
|
Post by qmechanics on Feb 21, 2020 3:22:04 GMT -5
Hi I own several Stanwell freehands.
The chess series are not the first Stanwell freehands produced. One clear difference, outside the stamping, is the stem. The other Stanwell freehand pipes have Ebonite stems while the chess series features acrylic stems with the S and crown sideways on top (the others have the S and crown on the side). I find, among my collection that overall the chess series appears to be better executed and finished, possibly indicating a higher end series.
I believe the grading ran Rook, Bishop. Queen and King (Highest grade). However I am not sure if the order listed in the pipedia statement below is just a list or indicates the actual ranking from lowest to highest.
From pipedia Chess Series:
This series is comprised of the Rook, Queen, King and Bishop. The production of the Chess series was originally overseen by Johann Larsen. This job is now being done by Poul Winslow.
PS I bought a Stanwell Queen bowl (no stem) a while back. The seller claimed to pay ~160 dollars for it new. The stem was lost years ago.
|
|
joeman
Full Member
Posts: 566
First Name: Joe
Favorite Pipe: Grabow Hillcrest
Favorite Tobacco: Sutliff Barbados Plantation
Location:
|
Post by joeman on Feb 21, 2020 13:56:01 GMT -5
I agree about stem material (older being ebonite/vulcanite, newer being lucite/acrylic), but there are also Stanwell Queens which are trademarked on the side, and earlier Stanwell freehands which are trademarked sideways on top of the stem, such as the one I have. It has the Reg stamp, covered in 360 straight grain and a beautiful finish. I've seen other early examples just as high grade, so it seems they did not spare the best briar when making freehands, whether earlier or later.
|
|
joeman
Full Member
Posts: 566
First Name: Joe
Favorite Pipe: Grabow Hillcrest
Favorite Tobacco: Sutliff Barbados Plantation
Location:
|
Post by joeman on Feb 21, 2020 14:06:32 GMT -5
Is this a pipe you're buying? I'm not sure about that stem being original to the pipe. Gorgeous piece of tobacciana furniture, though!
|
|
|
Post by Legend Lover on Feb 21, 2020 14:42:55 GMT -5
That, my friend, is a real beauty!!
|
|
|
Post by qmechanics on Feb 21, 2020 19:09:13 GMT -5
I agree about stem material (older being ebonite/vulcanite, newer being lucite/acrylic), but there are also Stanwell Queens which are trademarked on the side, and earlier Stanwell freehands which are trademarked sideways on top of the stem, such as the one I have. It has the Reg stamp, covered in 360 straight grain and a beautiful finish. I've seen other early examples just as high grade, so it seems they did not spare the best briar when making freehands, whether earlier or later. I own around 15-20 Stanwell freehands (Five from the chess line) and the stems match my description. However I would not doubt exceptions are there to be found. Among the Reg. stamped freehands. I have a few that are excellent pipes of high grade and finish. However looking at the collection overall and years of watching them on eBay, I would say that the chess series execution appears to be a notch above (My comments were meant to be taken in a general way, that is why I previously and currently use the term overall.). The differences probably lie in the particular line of the older Stanwell freehands and/or the range of variation that might exist in a given line (Indeed more research is necessary 😁). I also have a few Stanwell freehands that do not match either Reg. or the Chess series stamping (One is a beauty with a signature). In summary, my comments are a reflection of what I have seen and own. No doubt differences are there and other perspectives are truly appreciated and helpful. I also agree the stem on the pipe pictured looks like a replacement. PS By freehands I believe we are both referring to the pipes that have the general appearance of the one pictured and are not mass duplicates like most Stanwells.
|
|
|
Post by peteguy on Feb 24, 2020 16:10:20 GMT -5
Thank you all very much. This is the info I was hoping for. Mucho appreciato!
No logo on the stem so I am confident it is a replacement. It is acrylic so at least they knew what they were doing. It is my pipe but will be unloaded. I am not a freehand kind of guy but this one is tempting...
Sorry for the late reply, I was out of town.
|
|
|
Post by pappyjoe on Feb 25, 2020 9:51:19 GMT -5
Anyone know the years when thee Stanwell Danish Stars were produced?
|
|
|
Post by peteguy on Feb 25, 2020 16:09:37 GMT -5
Anyone know the years when thee Stanwell Danish Stars were produced? Is this a date range or just a date range on this particular pipe?
|
|
|
Post by pappyjoe on Feb 25, 2020 18:09:26 GMT -5
Anyone know the years when thee Stanwell Danish Stars were produced? Is this a date range or just a date range on this particular pipe?
That's a question I'm looking for an answer to. I know Sixteen Ivarsson created a number of shapes for Stanwell starting in the late 1940s after World War II ended. I also believe that his cooperation with Stanwell supposedly lasted for decades but I haven't found anything to confirm the belief. I'm curious about the Danish Star line because Tom Eltang also created shapes that were used for it and he didn't come along until the 1990s.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
Location:
|
Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2020 11:25:04 GMT -5
Before the move to Italy they used to brag up what carvers had influence on the shape. I assumed the Danish Star was a export model for the states under some kind of distributor agreement much like the Scandia. As you can see I cant remember a darn thing.
|
|
stone
Full Member
Posts: 996
First Name: Jeff
Location:
|
Post by stone on Feb 27, 2020 14:14:38 GMT -5
I am not an expert on any such items but I think any Queen is pretty rare! I mean, I am only aware of a few.
I'd sure love to have one I could light up whenever I want
|
|
|
Post by qmechanics on Mar 12, 2020 3:25:47 GMT -5
Recently two eBay auctions featured a Stanwell King (152+8.85 US) and a Queen (103.5 + 8.85 US) freehand that were new old stock... The King also had a S stamp on the side of the stem as described by joeman
|
|
|
Post by peteguy on Mar 12, 2020 14:44:16 GMT -5
Thank you "q". I am going to list it on the auction site. If anyone has any interest pm here and I will deal with you directly. I dont want this to turn into a for sale thread so lets keep it in pm.
|
|
|
Post by qmechanics on Mar 12, 2020 19:02:12 GMT -5
Thank you "q". I am going to list it on the auction site. If anyone has any interest pm here and I will deal with you directly. I dont want this to turn into a for sale thread so lets keep it in pm. Keep in mind the pipes I mentioned are "new" old stock and the seller has been actively selling some fairly nice new old stock pipes for a few weeks drawing increased interest.
|
|
ironclad
Full Member
Hey, hey! What do you say?
Posts: 576
Favorite Pipe: An old Wellington Chesterfield Full Bent Billiard
Favorite Tobacco: PS LNF
Location:
|
Post by ironclad on Apr 20, 2020 19:52:01 GMT -5
In a former life I was a tobacconist. The Stanwell Chess series came out in the late '90's and (if I remember correctly) the Queen retailed for around $125.
|
|
|
Post by peteguy on Apr 21, 2020 12:55:30 GMT -5
In a former life I was a tobacconist. The Stanwell Chess series came out in the late '90's and (if I remember correctly) the Queen retailed for around $125. Excellent info - thanks.
|
|
|
Post by instymp on Apr 21, 2020 17:01:59 GMT -5
|
|