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Post by trailboss on Mar 28, 2020 21:04:14 GMT -5
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 28, 2020 23:32:16 GMT -5
I guess we will still have the Wilke blends. That just became a very valuable property. Not to mention SWR and Prince Albert. 🤮😭
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Post by just ol ed on Mar 29, 2020 8:09:49 GMT -5
I have 10 choices written down & all are grandfathered. At my creaky age, plenty to choose from. No longer any interest in "expanding horizons".
Ed Duncan, Batavia, NY
pipe/cigar since '62
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Post by pepesdad1 on Mar 29, 2020 12:26:56 GMT -5
Having a substantial cellar solves all problems for me...got enough to last my lifetime and perhaps a second person as well.
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Post by sperrytops on Mar 29, 2020 12:38:50 GMT -5
Informative article. I can only think the MacBaren's lines and Peterson lines are quite safe. Anything that's been around for a long time relatively unchanged is also safe. So many of the new blends we've seen in recent years will have to go through the process. And say goodbye to limited run small batch tobaccos.
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Post by chasingembers on Mar 29, 2020 18:32:16 GMT -5
Informative article. I can only think the MacBaren's lines and Peterson lines are quite safe. Anything that's been around for a long time relatively unchanged is also safe. So many of the new blends we've seen in recent years will have to go through the process. And say goodbye to limited run small batch tobaccos. All of Mac Baren's HH line is post 2007. Old Dark Fired, Latakia Flake, Acadian Perique, etc. |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 29, 2020 18:38:00 GMT -5
MacB’s Burley Flake and Latakia Flake entered the market post 2007 if I recall?
The earliest reviews I see on TR for ODF is 2012.
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Post by chasingembers on Mar 29, 2020 19:28:58 GMT -5
MacB’s Burley Flake and Latakia Flake entered the market post 2007 if I recall? The earliest reviews I see on TR for ODF is 2012. Burley Flake was 2018, Latakia Flake 2014, and ODF was released at the Chicago Pipe Show in 2012. |
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Post by trailboss on Mar 29, 2020 19:42:12 GMT -5
MacB’s Burley Flake and Latakia Flake entered the market post 2007 if I recall? The earliest reviews I see on TR for ODF is 2012. Burley Flake was 2018, Latakia Flake 2014, and ODF was released at the Chicago Pipe Show in 2012. Roger that, I misread your post. A good time to stock up on any favorites, when they are gone, they are gone. |
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Post by chasingembers on Mar 30, 2020 4:49:03 GMT -5
Burley Flake was 2018, Latakia Flake 2014, and ODF was released at the Chicago Pipe Show in 2012. Roger that, I misread your post. A good time to stock up on any favorites, when they are gone, they are gone. Loaded for bear here brother.👍 |
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Post by calabash on Mar 30, 2020 17:38:02 GMT -5
So many new price gouging opportunities.
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Post by zambini on Mar 30, 2020 21:38:13 GMT -5
I'm upset by this. I know it's a long time coming but as someone who surprisingly relies on the US market, I'm at a point where I just wanted this administration to remove one regulation and they've let me down. So booo to the FDA on this one thing. Booo!!!!
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 30, 2020 22:25:22 GMT -5
A lot (most) of the Wilke recipes are over a hundred years old. If John can use that history, he will be in good shape.
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 31, 2020 6:37:45 GMT -5
The idea that ODF could disappear is tragic, guess I'm buying more today.
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Post by kbareit on Mar 31, 2020 9:41:00 GMT -5
A lot (most) of the Wilke recipes are over a hundred years old. If John can use that history, he will be in good shape. When I met John at the New York show last year he said he has 400+ blends that are in compliance with the new regulations. Who knows what he can roll out and I'm pretty interested to see it. I enjoy many of his blends already. |
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Post by fadingdaylight on Mar 31, 2020 10:09:14 GMT -5
Honestly, with the state of the union right now, you would think we could just let people smoke what they want for a few more weeks. Better they order post-2007 tobacco online than go out looking for TP at Walmart right now anyway
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Post by Ronv69 on Mar 31, 2020 10:13:45 GMT -5
A lot (most) of the Wilke recipes are over a hundred years old. If John can use that history, he will be in good shape. When I met John at the New York show last year he said he has 400+ blends that are in compliance with the new regulations. Who knows what he can roll out and I'm pretty interested to see it. I enjoy many of his blends already. He could also license them to other companies! |
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Post by exbenedict on Mar 31, 2020 10:18:30 GMT -5
I have 14 blends that I have whittled down to on my "Keep In Stock At All Times List". Of those, 10 are easily accessible, and I am pretty sure they are all pre-2007. I'm ok if a lot of these go by the wayside. It would suck for the industry as a whole, but it won't hurt me that much. Cheers!
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Post by adui on Mar 31, 2020 10:47:16 GMT -5
I havent a clue when the blends I like came out, and I only have 4 must haves, so I think I will weather this storm. Assuming the tobacco industry doesnt fold up
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Post by trailboss on Apr 1, 2020 0:50:21 GMT -5
I'm upset by this. I know it's a long time coming but as someone who surprisingly relies on the US market, I'm at a point where I just wanted this administration to remove one regulation and they've let me down. So booo to the FDA on this one thing. Booo!!!! To be fair, it was enacted and signed into law by the last congress and signed by the last executive. It would require an act of congress to overturn it and presented to the current executive to sign off on it. The House leader will not let that happen. |
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Post by trailboss on Apr 1, 2020 1:06:36 GMT -5
Edited for clarification. I'm upset by this. I know it's a long time coming but as someone who surprisingly relies on the US market, I'm at a point where I just wanted this administration to remove one regulation and they've let me down. So booo to the FDA on this one thing. Booo!!!! To be fair, it was enacted and signed into law by the last congress and signed by the last executive (when they controlled both houses and the presidency). It would require an act of congress to overturn it and presented to the current executive to sign off on it. The House leader will not let that happen. |
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Post by zambini on Apr 1, 2020 14:04:38 GMT -5
Edited for clarification. To be fair, it was enacted and signed into law by the last congress and signed by the last executive (when they controlled both houses and the presidency). It would require an act of congress to overturn it and presented to the current executive to sign off on it. The House leader will not let that happen. The new guys had time to sort this out and the current FDA could either alter the standards (they did so to cover the vaping market) or push them back (They did it before after all). So I'm sticking with Boooooo! |
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Post by crapgame on Apr 2, 2020 16:29:29 GMT -5
okay i am sure this has been covered before but going to ask it again, if someone buys the blend recipe from an extinct pre 2007 blend can it be produced? i mean blends like bufflehead and barking dog ..things like that....
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Post by chasingembers on Apr 2, 2020 18:59:41 GMT -5
okay i am sure this has been covered before but going to ask it again, if someone buys the blend recipe from an extinct pre 2007 blend can it be produced? i mean blends like bufflehead and barking dog ..things like that.... A reintroduction would be considered a new blend. When Murray's stopped producing the Dunhill blends and STG brought them back post 2007, they were on the chopping block. |
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Post by sperrytops on Apr 4, 2020 0:55:07 GMT -5
Got my pre 15th order in. 1 lb HH Latakia Flake, 1/2 lb SPC Mississippi River and 1/2 lb SPC Plum Pudding. Got plenty of these already, but just preparing.
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