Pipe tobacco's that will go away.

Thanks, I was pretty sure that Maltese Falcon and Key Largo were pre-2007 but better safe than sorry.

Thanks for reminding me.

That was one of the first I started piling as the deeming drew closer. I had already stashed 15 pounds of ODF back in 2012 so I had that base covered.

Thanks for the list. I ordered a few this morning.

You would think the tobacco conglomerates would be getting us ready for this. I've yet to see a single notice on their websites or in the press about which blends they will be moving forward with and how they plan to redirect customers to these.

I was thinking just this same thing. I visited several manufacturers sites and there is nothing at all there. Cornell and Diehl is even moving into a larger manufacturing site. Not something someone would do if they were planning to drop a significant number of lines. If anyone has found any comments on this by any tobacco manufacturer, please post a link. 

If online tobacco sales are banned, will online tobacco discussions be allowed to continue?

I believe that after that date it will no longer be for sale...pretty sure about that without wading through the regulations.

I sent Shane Ireland at Smokingpipes.com asking him if there is a list available. Surely they would know, whether or not they want to share the info might be another question.

Whew, a little longer to stock up!

I haven't looked for any other threads on this but what I am reading in the article that's linked in the 'FDA Drops the Hammer' thread states: Tobacco products first introduced after Feb. 15, 2007, or modified after Feb. 15, 2007, need FDA approval before being sold. This requirement was later extended to other tobacco products, including cigars, pipe tobacco and new product categories that simply did not exist in 2007, such as electronic cigarettes, vapor products and alternative nicotine products.

There are two ways to seek FDA approval; the article says that Manufacturers of cigars, pipe tobacco, electronic cigarettes, vapor products, hookah, alternative nicotine products and heated tobacco products introduced after Feb. 15, 2007, must file SE or PMTA marketing authorization requests by May 12, 2020. FDA may allow these products to remain on the market during the application review. Many cigars, pipe tobacco and some other traditional products are likely to use the SE procedure; however, because there were no electronic cigarette, vapor, alternative nicotine products or heated products marketed as of Feb. 15, 2007, manufacturers of these new categories of products are required to file PMTAs with the FDA by May 12, 2020, or the products can no longer be sold on the market.

The SE procedure is described thusly: Substantial equivalence (SE): A manufacturer must demonstrate the product has the same characteristics as a grandfathered product or a product with SE approval, or that the new product does not raise different public health questions. This is most common for changes to traditional products.

It would seem to me that manufacturers would use the SE procedure to state that "Our Whiz Bang blend that we introduced in 2008 uses the same ingredients as our Grandpas Blend that we have manufactured for 75 years so it doesn't raise any different public health questions".

Maybe I'm woefully uninformed (likely) but what I'm reading doesn't state that anything will go away, only that they may go away (if the manufacturer doesn't file marketing authorization requests by the deadline or the FDA doesn't allow them to remain on the market while the review takes place).

So just to be clear. Everything on that list will go away?

Thanks Charlie.
So that list is comprised of tobaccos that cane out after the 2007 cut off date.

But as many have said here before.
They come and they go, but chances are you’ll find new favorites
that will still be available,

Remember when so many pipers were certain that nearly all post 2007 pipe tobacco would be gone in 2016?
A lot of customers were losing their mind trying to stock up on all they could get their hands on before August of that year because that's when it would all go away.
Some online retailers even fed into that fear in the name of sales/profit. The "tobaccolypse" became a catch phrase in online pipe communities.

Here we are 4 years later, and these past 4 years have been no different than the 4 before that. Or the 10 before those. Or the 20 before those 10.
Prices go up. New tobacco blends come. Old blends go away. The world still ends "tomorrow".

The FDA regs have been getting pushed to the back-burner for 4 years now. The coronavirus is just the latest reason.
I would not be surprised to see it pushed back even further as the new date approaches this summer.

It's not worth worrying about for me. But, I respect that YMMV.

Who threw in the towel?