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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 4, 2020 12:39:20 GMT -5
I got offered a promotion at work from a regular employee to a shift manager. However instead of 40hrs a week making about 650 every 2weeks I'd be working 60 hours a week and making about 1000. Is this worth it?
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Post by puffy on Jun 4, 2020 13:27:14 GMT -5
Working that many hours a week can feel like that's all you do..Especially if you have a lot of responsibility..I would suggest some things to consider..Will you still have time for home and family?..Could it lead to further promotions?..How much do you need the extra money..Will turning it down effect your job security?..Working that many hours takes a different mind set..I Know..I did it for 15 years.
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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 4, 2020 14:11:27 GMT -5
The responsibility is not much different from what I already do because our current management sucks. It will affect my home life but not in the sense you would think. My wife is currently working 40hrs a week at a day job , a part time serving job , and in the Masters program at the university. Maybe if I did this it would lighten her load and she could focus more on her school rather than so much work. Atleast until she's out of school then I have management experience to put on a resume'. However I was just getting started taking classes at the community college and I am not sure if taking this job will affect that. I think I could do completely online classes and be fine.
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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 4, 2020 14:27:43 GMT -5
With that being said - wife says I'm a fool if I do it - cuz my hourly pay would be less.
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jun 4, 2020 14:43:01 GMT -5
 What are the benefits? Are you in a Union, Management can Fire your arse in a New York second. Working people is a huge responsibility especially in this PC Climate. My advice stay where you are, no need for the Agro!
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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 4, 2020 14:53:57 GMT -5
No union - no benefits. Just less physical labor and more making sure other people are doing the work. Maybe I could talk him up to 800$ a week. I doubt it
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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 4, 2020 14:55:07 GMT -5
The guy who runs the place is pretty much a slum lord. And any other time I'd tell him to get lost on the offer , however the bigger paychecks are appealing. I'm about to have to get into car payments and my rent is now larger.
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Post by kxg on Jun 4, 2020 15:25:27 GMT -5
I never regretted moving from hourly to salaried in my former life. I did, over the years, work more hours, but I also made more money and had greater responsibility. I did, however, work for a large company with mostly stable work and a good benefits package (hourly or salaried). My work was less physically demanding but far greater mentally and emotionally demanding.
Supervisory/Management work is not for everyone. I watched it drive some folks nearly crazy. I watched others who weren't good at it make their team member's lives miserable. Others thrived in that environment. One thing is certain; people problems can be highly frustrating and in a supervisory job, that is what your biggest problems will likely be, people problems.
That said, if taking the promotion can open future doors, you should consider it. But if won't, the headaches might not be worth it.
Good luck with your decision.
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Post by Spartacus on Jun 4, 2020 16:45:04 GMT -5
What are your long term goals? How does this position look on a resume? Greater responsibility might lead to a better paying/benefits job down the road.
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Post by mgtarheel on Jun 4, 2020 16:57:23 GMT -5
Your wife is right, your pay rate would be less because you are working 60 hours a week.
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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 4, 2020 17:51:08 GMT -5
Management experience would look good on the resume. Yes my hourly would go down but as a regular employee they wont let me work the same amount of hours so overall I'd make more money. I wish I could just work 60 hrs a week at my hourly pay - ha then I'd be making a killing. My long term goals I'm unsure of - to be honest - but I've been doing this kind of work since I was a kid and am quite tired of being the low man. I'm starting school currently getting my gen eds done so I can do something else with my life though I dont know what.
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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 4, 2020 18:09:32 GMT -5
There is some down time in the shift I would be taking.. leaving room for online work with the school and studies. Worst case scenario he said I could let him find someone else to do it and go back to my normal job. I was up for a raise though and I dont feel like I'll ever get it if I say no to this job so.. I just am not sure. I feel confident in my family and self to be healthy either way.
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Post by Scott W on Jun 4, 2020 18:17:10 GMT -5
Management experience would look good on the resume. Yes my hourly would go down but as a regular employee they wont let me work the same amount of hours so overall I'd make more money. I wish I could just work 60 hrs a week at my hourly pay - ha then I'd be making a killing. My long term goals I'm unsure of - to be honest - but I've been doing this kind of work since I was a kid and am quite tired of being the low man. I'm starting school currently getting my gen eds done so I can do something else with my life though I dont know what. Go for the promotion. Try to negotiate $1250 a week. Even if he meets you in the middle, you’ll get more marketable experience in this role, and more money. Stick with it for a year and then either make moves within the company or look for companies paying more and go there. |
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Post by isett2860 on Jun 4, 2020 19:33:33 GMT -5
As always here on the Patch.
You’ve been given a lot of good input and good information. With a lot of sound reasoning.
This is the one thing I love about this place. You have people from all walks of life in all types of situations and in all kinds of scenarios. In general someone here has been there done that LOL.
This is only my point of view and my perspective from the current situation than I am in and have seen in the past.
I work for one of the major airlines. And as you’ve seen on the news and in all the Internet stories. They are all asking for big pay concessions or they’re all asking for all kinds of givebacks. They’re asking people to take early separation or early retirement.
And they all have said they will be cutting whatever percent of salaried and middle management employees.
I personally am not worried about losing my job at this time. I am union. But I will be asked for pay cuts and concessions in a few months.
My Mrs. on the other hand is salary and management at the same place. And it doesn’t matter that she’s been there for 30 years. She could be out of a job come the end of July.
So with all this said. How stable is your company? has it been doing well through this awful time that we’ve been going through?
Just in my own experience in life. Quite often when times get really tough it is the middle-management that is the first to suffer. If things got rough could you go back to where you came from? Or would you just be sent out the door?
Is your occupation in demand? If that was to happen would you be able to go elsewhere and start over?
As I have said you’ve been given a lot of information from a lot of people here.
Trying to Lighten the workload on your wife, is a very wonderful gesture. But in the long run would it jeopardize the family if you did this?
And as mentioned, you’re really not gaining any money for the amount of hours you’re working. But overall you are gaining more money each week.
The one positive side you have, is you are young and can bounce. But if you were 10 years from retirement you sure as heck would not wanna be risking anything LOL.
Unless you were sitting fat and happy at the bank!
Use the information that has been given to you here. There is no right and there is no wrong answer. In my own opinion. I have always been one that says life is a risk take chances if you believe in it.
What risk are you willing to take? but also, what risk are you and your wife willing to take?
Try to look at all parts of it. Time, money. Family, life in general.
Also remember. You and the The Mrs., may not agree on every thing.
So weight it sll out. Heck write it down as pros and cons if you have to.
The answer may not be what you want, or it may not be what she wants. But then you were both decide together.
Let us know what you decide.
But once you make your decision. Do not second-guess yourself. Do not beat yourself up over what you decided to do.
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Post by adui on Jun 4, 2020 19:50:17 GMT -5
From an accounting perspective; your current hourly rate is 16.25 per hour. I assume with the possibility of OT pay for overtime.
The new hourly rate would be 16.67 per hour, a .31 cent per hour raise. However on salary you are far less likely to get OT pay.
In my book, unless its a resume builder move that will help you get something better in a year or two I'd take a hard pass.
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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 4, 2020 20:17:20 GMT -5
His final answer on pay is 750$ per 60hr work week. No OT.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 4, 2020 20:38:02 GMT -5
His final answer on pay is 750$ per 60hr work week. No OT. wait, let me get this straight. Currently: 80hrs (two weeks work) = $650? Or is it $650 per 40hrs? = $1300 (two weeks) 120hrs (two weeks work) = $1500 So, it's currently 80hrs/$1300, but if you took the "promotion" it would be 50% more hours for a $4hr (~25%) decrease in pay? That sounds like a good deal! (Sarcasm) I mean, I'm not good at math, but holy crap. Edit: that's F'n insulting. I mean, maybe management looks good on a resumë, but at what cost? |
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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 5, 2020 7:33:29 GMT -5
My 2week check is give or take around 600 after taxes. If I took the promo it would be about 1100 after taxes.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jun 5, 2020 11:32:27 GMT -5
My 2week check is give or take around 600 after taxes. If I took the promo it would be about 1100 after taxes. Ok, that's not nearly as bad as I assumed. |
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Post by briarbuck on Jun 5, 2020 11:45:26 GMT -5
If I was going to take that "promotion", I would be taking it because my next job after this will be better.
Leverage the management experience you will gain to find a better boss and job if you can.
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Post by Kerley0319 on Jun 5, 2020 12:01:24 GMT -5
Thanks for all the advice guys- I have some stipulations he's going to have to meet in order for me to take it. Will keep ya posted.
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Post by Goldbrick on Jun 5, 2020 12:26:32 GMT -5
What are the benefits? Are you in a Union, Management can Fire your arse in a New York second. Working people is a huge responsibility especially in this PC Climate. My advice stay where you are, no need for the Agro! some real sound advice here...sometimes ,getting people to do their job ends up doing their job, or just as likely ,redoing the jobs they do wrong...I'say stay in school and use those extra hours to help the wife get through her schooling. Just another old guys thoughts.  |
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Post by Mac on Jun 5, 2020 22:04:00 GMT -5
With that being said - wife says I'm a fool if I do it - cuz my hourly pay would be less. It isn't less, at least using your "about" numbers. Sorry, lots of posts in between, and numbers have changed. I hate decisions like that! Good luck. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jun 6, 2020 0:05:01 GMT -5
From personal experience, I say take the promotion. I will be better on your resume than the couple of years of college, which you can still take if you want. Having the payments and other responsibilities is going to be a learning experience too. And who knows what kind of A-H he will bring in? You could end up gone if you make him look bad, especially if he knows you turned down the job.
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Post by Scott W on Jun 6, 2020 14:48:15 GMT -5
From personal experience, I say take the promotion. I will be better on your resume than the couple of years of college, which you can still take if you want. Having the payments and other responsibilities is going to be a learning experience too. And who knows what kind of A-H he will bring in? You could end up gone if you make him look bad, especially if he knows you turned down the job. This too! |
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Post by zambini on Jun 6, 2020 17:05:57 GMT -5
I'd take the promotion an invest in the wife's education. It'll probably pay-off better in the long run. Make sure that the 60 hours a week are really and honestly 60 hours.
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Post by bigwoolie on Jun 6, 2020 19:30:52 GMT -5
Im no money guy, so my advice has very little value. Take it as such.
But a college degree has a lot less equity for a working man with experience and a marketable skill than it used too.
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What are the benefits? Are you in a Union, Management can Fire your arse in a New York second. Working people is a huge responsibility especially in this PC Climate. My advice stay where you are, no need for the Agro!
