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Post by instymp on Jul 10, 2020 18:15:46 GMT -5
My wife likes my S&W 19 4"
I put 38's in it for her.
She can grab it, pull trigger & goes Boom.
No racking, safety's, failure to feeds etc.
I wish I didn't like my S&W 45 shield so much so I could justify another Colt 1911.
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Post by adui on Jul 11, 2020 11:00:56 GMT -5
My wife likes my S&W 19 4" I put 38's in it for her. She can grab it, pull trigger & goes Boom. No racking, safety's, failure to feeds etc. I wish I didn't like my S&W 45 shield so much so I could justify another Colt 1911.Wait.. you mean I am supposed to have justification for another gun??? CRAAAAP.... |
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Post by puffy on Jul 11, 2020 21:06:45 GMT -5
I just read that Friday at 1:00 in the morning in Florida 3 armed men broke into a man's house..He took out 2 of them and wounded the third one who has been arrested..The police have ruled it self defense.
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Post by tabacco on Jul 17, 2020 15:58:28 GMT -5
I like revolvers for personal defense (super reliable) however I find the S&W 642 too snappy and hard on the hand. I mean, it's OK but it's not like there are no better alternatives.
When it comes to revolvers, I would prefer a heavier .357 revolver, loaded with .38 special. As an example I used to carry a '96 Colt DS-II, it is not a .357 but it is quite heavy and with standard .38spc or even +P, the recoil is relative moderate. I later upgraded to a 2.5" S&W 686+, and carried it loaded with 38 Special.
I have not shot the new Cobra or the Kimber, but in addition to bein heavier they offer a six rounds cylinder, Vs the five rounds of the Lady Smith. Also, it's not to hard to find a older Colt Detective in good conditions and at acceptable prices, and again I would prefer the Detective (steel frame) over the old Cobra (aluminum frame) because of the weight.
On the front of semi autos, I think the super conceivable Ruger LCP is hard to beat. If you really want a regular 9mm instead of the 380ACP, the S&W Shield or any of the well known single stack available nowadays, are still better the lady Smith.
All IMHO...
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Post by toshtego on Jul 17, 2020 17:12:24 GMT -5
I like revolvers for personal defense (super reliable) however I find the S&W 642 too snappy and hard on the hand. I mean, it's OK but it's not like there are no better alternatives. When it comes to revolvers, I would prefer a heavier .357 revolver, loaded with .38 special. As an example I used to carry a '96 Colt DS-II, it is not a .357 but it is quite heavy and with standard .38spc or even +P, the recoil is relative moderate. I later upgraded to a 2.5" S&W 686+, and carried it loaded with 38 Special. I have not shot the new Cobra or the Kimber, but in addition to bein heavier they offer a six rounds cylinder, Vs the five rounds of the Lady Smith. Also, it's not to hard to find a older Colt Detective in good conditions and at acceptable prices, and again I would prefer the Detective (steel frame) over the old Cobra (aluminum frame) because of the weight. On the front of semi autos, I think the super conceivable Ruger LCP is hard to beat. If you really want a regular 9mm instead of the 380ACP, the S&W Shield or any of the well known single stack available nowadays, are still better the lady Smith. All IMHO... In terms of shooting, I agree the DS shoots better with its heaver frame and larger grips. For hanging on your belt or living in a pocket, which is where they spend most their time, that alloy frame makes a difference. I carried a Colt Agent (alloy frame like the old Cobra) on a belt for three years and liked it better than the S&W Model 10 most everyone else had. The light weight and increased perceived recoil is manageable. |
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Post by tabacco on Jul 17, 2020 18:03:44 GMT -5
When you say hanging on your belt are you referring to OWB?
I’m asking because, within reasons course, when it is IWB it does not make too much difference to me. Size yes, weight not so much.
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Post by addamsruspipe on Jul 17, 2020 18:08:31 GMT -5
I picked up a Ruger SP101 that Bigwoolie recommended. It's a lot of fun to shoot. However the 4" barrel makes it little on the big size for me to conceal carry. So now looking for another revolver to go in the field with me. I just don't care for semi automatics. But the covid rush has made revolvers harder to find them semi automatics. Will keep looking. 😀
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Post by bigwoolie on Jul 17, 2020 18:16:54 GMT -5
I picked up a Ruger SP101 that Bigwoolie recommended. It's a lot of fun to shoot. However the 4" barrel makes it little on the big size for me to conceal carry. So now looking for another revolver to go in the field with me. I just don't care for semi automatics. But the covid rush has made revolvers harder to find them semi automatics. Will keep looking. 😀 When I was in law enforcement in the remote bush of Alaska, the SP101 was my secondary backup. However, mine had a 2" bbl, and I found it real easy to conceal carry. It'll shoot the hottest .357mag they produce, and .38sp have almost no recoil. Mine, as one would expect from a Ruger, was built like a bank vault. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 17, 2020 19:33:20 GMT -5
When you say hanging on your belt are you referring to OWB? I’m asking because, within reasons course, when it is IWB it does not make too much difference to me. Size yes, weight not so much. Last week I carried my 1911 inside the waistband one day when we were in the neighboring town and I didn't notice the extra weight, except that it kept pulling my pants down. I didn't have my "gun belts" with me. But other than that I didn't notice the extra weight. It's twice the weight of my usual concealed piece. It also holds 9 45s instead of 7 9mm. |
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Post by toshtego on Jul 17, 2020 19:42:40 GMT -5
When you say hanging on your belt are you referring to OWB? I’m asking because, within reasons course, when it is IWB it does not make too much difference to me. Size yes, weight not so much. Sorry, I do not know what "OWB" and "IWB" mean. I was referring to a belt under a Blazer, eight to twelve hours a day, five days per week. |
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Post by bigwoolie on Jul 17, 2020 19:44:52 GMT -5
When you say hanging on your belt are you referring to OWB? I’m asking because, within reasons course, when it is IWB it does not make too much difference to me. Size yes, weight not so much. Sorry, I do not know what "OWB" and "IWB" mean. I was referring to a belt under a Blazer, eight to twelve hours a day, five days per week. OWB is "outside the waistband" IWB is "Inside the waistband" |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 17, 2020 20:52:12 GMT -5
A good belt makes all the difference: www.thebeltman.net/Every time I look at belts in stores and compare to my Beltman made belt, I have never seen one off the rack that compares in leather. |
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Post by tabacco on Jul 17, 2020 21:00:06 GMT -5
I picked up a Ruger SP101 that Bigwoolie recommended. It's a lot of fun to shoot. However the 4" barrel makes it little on the big size for me to conceal carry. So now looking for another revolver to go in the field with me. I just don't care for semi automatics. But the covid rush has made revolvers harder to find them semi automatics. Will keep looking. 😀 The SP101 is an excellent revolver. Having said that, you reminded me of the last time it was almost impossible to find any pistol on any shelf. In 2013 I drove almost two hours to pick up exactly a 4” SP101  . Few days later a friend of mine asked me to sell it to him. I had just had the time to try it at the range, and I really liked it, other than for the grip that was a little too small for me. |
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Post by bigwoolie on Jul 17, 2020 21:02:59 GMT -5
A good belt makes all the difference: www.thebeltman.net/Every time I look at belts in stores and compare to my Beltman made belt, I have never seen one off the rack that compares in leather. My belt is by Minataur Holsters. It actually has kydex sandwiched between two top-grain leathers. Its fantastic. Best belt I ever had. Trailboss is right, a good belt makes all the difference. That and the right holster. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 17, 2020 22:18:09 GMT -5
I have 3 good gunbelts from different makers. They are all good, but they are very hard to punch new holes in and since I have lost weight they are pretty loose.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 17, 2020 22:41:00 GMT -5
My next gunbelt is going to be a steel reinforced one to try to get it thinner. The double leather and Kevlar reinforced are very thick.
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Post by bigwoolie on Jul 17, 2020 22:52:39 GMT -5
My next gunbelt is going to be a steel reinforced one to try to get it thinner. The double leather and Kevlar reinforced are very thick. It is a bit thick, but it makes a great cowboy belt too. 😁 |
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Post by tabacco on Jul 17, 2020 22:57:13 GMT -5
My next gunbelt is going to be a steel reinforced one to try to get it thinner. The double leather and Kevlar reinforced are very thick. Interested! My wife and I use belts made by a local manufacturer (https://agcustomgunleather.com). Excellent quality and they really last forever. However I would not mind trying something thinner. |
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Post by trailboss on Jul 17, 2020 23:02:04 GMT -5
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 18, 2020 0:15:57 GMT -5
My next gunbelt is going to be a steel reinforced one to try to get it thinner. The double leather and Kevlar reinforced are very thick. It is a bit thick, but it makes a great cowboy belt too. 😁 2 of the 3 were too thick to accept my big silver and gold Texas buckle! And you call yourself a cowboy! 😝😎😜🤠🤠🤠🥇🇺🇸 (kidding) But they really don't work with. Montana Silversmith buckles and I collected them when I was a teenager. I have about a dozen from the 70’s. |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 18, 2020 0:19:49 GMT -5
I had one until I tried to punch a hole in a gunbelt. It broke. I use a hollow gasket punch and a drilling hammer over a piece of oak flooring. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2020 13:33:26 GMT -5
You can always load 38's in a Lady 357. Tames it down considerable. Non +P's in 38 even less. Yeah, if you don't have to be able to shoot .357 magnum, I think that's a great solution. I only fired two cylinders through mine - the .357 magnum first - and was very surprised that the .38 special was so pleasant to shoot after what the .357 felt like. But if you're never going to shoot .357 magnum, buy a gun with more chambers (LS has 5) that is made specifically for .38 special. ..or just buy lots of guns so you have lots of choices. I love all of mine for their own special characteristics. |
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Post by toshtego on Jul 19, 2020 14:00:35 GMT -5
Sorry, I do not know what "OWB" and "IWB" mean. I was referring to a belt under a Blazer, eight to twelve hours a day, five days per week. OWB is "outside the waistband" IWB is "Inside the waistband" Ah ha! Outside the waistband hanging on a belt. |
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Post by instymp on Jul 20, 2020 8:38:18 GMT -5
I picked up a Ruger SP101 that Bigwoolie recommended. It's a lot of fun to shoot. However the 4" barrel makes it little on the big size for me to conceal carry. So now looking for another revolver to go in the field with me. I just don't care for semi automatics. But the covid rush has made revolvers harder to find them semi automatics. Will keep looking. 😀 There are fun guns and there are carrying guns. And some do both. Some carry guns aren't fun to shoot a box of ammo through but conceal well and serve their purpose. Hopefully you live near a range/gunstore that rents them & you can try a bunch out and pick what meets your need. |
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Post by addamsruspipe on Jul 20, 2020 8:52:44 GMT -5
I picked up a Ruger SP101 that Bigwoolie recommended. It's a lot of fun to shoot. However the 4" barrel makes it little on the big size for me to conceal carry. So now looking for another revolver to go in the field with me. I just don't care for semi automatics. But the covid rush has made revolvers harder to find them semi automatics. Will keep looking. 😀 There are fun guns and there are carrying guns. And some do both. Some carry guns aren't fun to shoot a box of ammo through but conceal well and serve their purpose. Hopefully you live near a range/gunstore that rents them & you can try a bunch out and pick what meets your need. I am meeting up with a old friend of the family later in the week. We lost touch but I reached out to him. He used to be firearms dealer and is going to let me shoot several in his collection. Hopefully something will feel right and be the right size. He said he could get me which ever I like in a couple of weeks. 😀 |
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 20, 2020 12:12:29 GMT -5
The R51 feels great in my hand, better than any other gun I've ever shot. But people either love them or hate them. I love it. Easy shooting low recoil and simple with the grip safety. And did I mention cheap?
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Post by bigwoolie on Jul 20, 2020 13:28:36 GMT -5
I just looked up the R51. It looks like my big ol' hands would just swallow it up.
I had a Para Warthog once. A cool little CC 1911, had the same problem with it. 5" 1911's are harder to conceal, and they're certainly heavier, but they sure fit in my fist nice
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Post by Ronv69 on Jul 20, 2020 15:20:22 GMT -5
I just looked up the R51. It looks like my big ol' hands would just swallow it up. I had a Para Warthog once. A cool little CC 1911, had the same problem with it. 5" 1911's are harder to conceal, and they're certainly heavier, but they sure fit in my fist nice Yep, it's too small for you for sure. I have narrow hands with long fingers. I would have made a lousy urologist. A 1911 is about as large as I like, but shoot the double stack Star 9mm just fine too. It sure fills my hand though. |
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Post by puffy on Jul 20, 2020 15:40:42 GMT -5
I had a Star 9 mm..It was too big for my small hands..I traded it for a pipe,some tobacco,and a hundred bucks.
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Post by instymp on Jul 20, 2020 17:03:07 GMT -5
The R51 feels great in my hand, better than any other gun I've ever shot. But people either love them or hate them. I love it. Easy shooting low recoil and simple with the grip safety. And did I mention cheap? For some reason I always liked the look of the R51. Never held or shot one. |
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