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Post by lizardonarock on Sept 9, 2020 9:20:04 GMT -5
Good looking pipe but Dunhill expert I am not.
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Post by Ronv69 on Sept 9, 2020 9:24:27 GMT -5
Dunno. I've seen the inner tube but I don't know how it attaches. Never saw a threaded Dunhill before. Curious to see what you find out.
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Post by joeman on Sept 9, 2020 11:00:53 GMT -5
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Post by sperrytops on Sept 9, 2020 13:20:29 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I don't think Dunhill ever did that. You may be looking at a stem and shank repair. If you've got Dunhill numbers stamped on the bottom, you should bd able to track it down on Dunhill collectors sites.
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Post by peteguy on Sept 9, 2020 15:10:57 GMT -5
This looks to me like the "DON" shape/style but a little different. Every Don I have seen (pictures only) has a dot but also has a shank cap. Never seen a threaded tenon on a Don either but, once again, only seen pictures and they are push tenons.
If I had to guess I would say an interesting and not adding value "repair".
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Post by jay on Sept 9, 2020 17:25:32 GMT -5
As close as the stem is to the bowl, I'll throw my opinion on the side of the "repair" crowd. I also suspect it smokes both hotter and wetter than it did originally.
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Post by daveinlax on Sept 10, 2020 7:59:42 GMT -5
The bowl looks like one of those Dunhill metal stem Cavalier shapes but doesn’t look like a Dunhill Duke or Don shape bowl so I’d guess it’s a salvaged bowl with some sort of jimmy rigged stem. You never know but it looks good to me.  |
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Post by daveinlax on Sept 10, 2020 8:38:51 GMT -5
Looking again at how the nomenclature is placed and how the bottom tapers it really looks Ike a bowl from a Cavalier. |
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Post by joeman on Sept 10, 2020 15:23:12 GMT -5
I really appreciate you gents providing your insight. I've never seen anything like it, so I had no opinion to give. My own initial thought was similar...why put a metal thread so close to the chamber? Must've broken off the shank near the bowl. It must be a hot smoker.
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Post by Legend Lover on Sept 11, 2020 6:09:53 GMT -5
As close as the stem is to the bowl, I'll throw my opinion on the side of the "repair" crowd. I also suspect it smokes both hotter and wetter than it did originally. I was thinking the same thing... I've never seen a Dunhill pipe (or any other, for that matter) with such a short shank. |
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Post by sperrytops on Sept 11, 2020 11:29:30 GMT -5
Check out Pipedia pipedia.org/wiki/Pipedia_Dunhill_Dating_Guide. That number appears to be patent no 417574/34 ( patent 417574, year 1934. That's a legitimate number of an earlyDunhill. They have an aluminum inner tube (straight pipes). But there is no threading. It's a slide in device. Still pretty likely that was a repair with shank shortened and stem replaced. But otherwise quite collectible. Judging by the condition of the bowl, here was certainly some restoration work done on it. |
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Post by calabash on Sept 11, 2020 12:05:46 GMT -5
Check out Pipedia pipedia.org/wiki/Pipedia_Dunhill_Dating_Guide. That number appears to be patent no 417574/34 ( patent 417574, year 1934. That's a legitimate number of an earlyDunhill. They have an aluminum inner tube (straight pipes). But there is no threading. It's a slide in device. Still pretty likely that was a repair with shank shortened and stem replaced. But otherwise quite collectible. Judging by the condition of the bowl, here was certainly some restoration work done on it. The /34 is not the date code, but part of the patent number. This pipe dates from 1942-50, and the date code would be a one digit suffix after MADE IN ENGLAND. I can't make it out on this picture. |
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Post by sperrytops on Sept 11, 2020 13:36:22 GMT -5
Check out Pipedia pipedia.org/wiki/Pipedia_Dunhill_Dating_Guide. That number appears to be patent no 417574/34 ( patent 417574, year 1934. That's a legitimate number of an earlyDunhill. They have an aluminum inner tube (straight pipes). But there is no threading. It's a slide in device. Still pretty likely that was a repair with shank shortened and stem replaced. But otherwise quite collectible. Judging by the condition of the bowl, here was certainly some restoration work done on it. The /34 is not the date code, but part of the patent number. This pipe dates from 1942-50, and the date code would be a one digit suffix after MADE IN ENGLAND. I can't make it out on this picture. Quite right on the dating. I read that wrong. The circle round the group number dates it to 51-54. |
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Post by joeman on Sept 12, 2020 7:15:03 GMT -5
I will try to get a better image of the bottom. Dunhill dating is not one of my specialties. 😉
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Post by calabash on Sept 12, 2020 7:28:51 GMT -5
The /34 is not the date code, but part of the patent number. This pipe dates from 1942-50, and the date code would be a one digit suffix after MADE IN ENGLAND. I can't make it out on this picture. Quite right on the dating. I read that wrong. The circle round the group number dates it to 51-54. Ah, you're right. They added the group number in 1951. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 9:20:24 GMT -5
I'm singing with the majority, here. This might be a Dunhill bowl but it stops right there.
I have never seen Dunhills with such screw on stems.
The shank being so short, almost nonexistent, does suggest that either it was part of an original Cavalier pipe
or most of the shank was cracked and the then owner decided to do a DIY repair.
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Post by bonanzadriver on Sept 13, 2020 20:31:46 GMT -5
echoing the same responses here Joe.
I have about a dozen Dunnies, none of them have a threaded stem.
Does it still have the trademark White Dot on the top of the stem?
If not, it's most certainly a replacement.
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