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Post by joeman on Oct 19, 2020 11:07:22 GMT -5
My nephew scored this vintage smoking table. Our assumption is that it's likely early 1900's, based on construction.   Check this very heavy item....  When you open it, it has a small reservoir, about the size of a half shot glass. What is this for?  If you have any insight about this table, my nephew will be grateful. |
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Post by pepesdad1 on Oct 19, 2020 12:05:02 GMT -5
No real clue...but maybe the small reservoir is for a bottle of snuff? Nice table regardless! Is that a 4 pipe rack (sort of)?
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 19, 2020 12:15:54 GMT -5
Definitely looks Arts and Crafts. Trailboss has a table you might be interested in. šš¤
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Post by joeman on Oct 19, 2020 13:48:36 GMT -5
No real clue...but maybe the small reservoir is for a bottle of snuff? Nice table regardless! Is that a 4 pipe rack (sort of)? Yes, you're looking at 4 metal hooks for hanging pipes. |
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Post by kxg on Oct 19, 2020 16:37:20 GMT -5
The stag ornament looks like maybe an inkwell, absent the glass insert.
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Post by jay on Oct 19, 2020 16:39:57 GMT -5
The stag ornament looks like maybe an inkwell, absent the glass insert. My first thought was that it was an inkwell, also. Another possibility, depending on depth, is a match holder but that might be a stretch. It sure looks nice, though.  |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 20, 2020 4:31:37 GMT -5
Maybe it's not a smoking table at all (but was perhaps used as one and has a tobacco scent to it). It looks more like a table to put beside the front door with a plate for coins and hooks for keys.
Based on the position of the deer head in the first photo, I can't see how it can be used to hold any liquid etc., given that any liquid would fall out as it's sitting vertical (not in the bottom picture, but when properly assembled anything in that pot would pour out).
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Post by kxg on Oct 20, 2020 5:15:16 GMT -5
Maybe it's not a smoking table at all (but was perhaps used as one and has a tobacco scent to it). It looks more like a table to put beside the front door with a plate for coins and hooks for keys. Based on the position of the deer head in the first photo, I can't see how it can be used to hold any liquid etc., given that any liquid would fall out as it's sitting vertical (not in the bottom picture, but when properly assembled anything in that pot would pour out). Looks like two different deer heads. The one on the table has an antler broken off, if Iām looking at it correctly. The other seems more stand alone, thus the inkwell guess. You may very well be correct that it is other than a smoking table. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 20, 2020 5:29:25 GMT -5
Maybe it's not a smoking table at all (but was perhaps used as one and has a tobacco scent to it). It looks more like a table to put beside the front door with a plate for coins and hooks for keys. Based on the position of the deer head in the first photo, I can't see how it can be used to hold any liquid etc., given that any liquid would fall out as it's sitting vertical (not in the bottom picture, but when properly assembled anything in that pot would pour out). Looks like two different deer heads. The one on the table has an antler broken off, if Iām looking at it correctly. The other seems more stand alone, thus the inkwell guess. You may very well be correct that it is other than a smoking table. Well spotted. |
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Post by joeman on Oct 20, 2020 11:18:10 GMT -5
Yep...2 different deer heads. The reservoir seems too short for matches, but I'll ask my nephew how "tall" the space is with the deer head lid closed.
The seller said that it was passed down from her great grandmother, and that it was a smoking table...so it was at the least used as such.
Thanks guys, for your thoughts.
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Post by trailboss on Oct 21, 2020 8:06:28 GMT -5
I wonder if as a smoking table it could have been for rolling your own?
The dish sitting on top would be a handy place to roll over and dump the spillage back down the opening.
As for the reservoir, I have nothing to suggest.
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Post by Ronv69 on Oct 21, 2020 8:47:18 GMT -5
I wonder if as a smoking table it could have been for rolling your own? The dish sitting on top would be a handy place to roll over and dump the spillage back down the opening. As for the reservoir, I have nothing to suggest. What did you decide to do with your "Smoking Table"? |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 21, 2020 8:49:18 GMT -5
Could the 'reservoir' be a candle holder? I'm thinking, if it's early 1900s, you might need a bit of light to prepare your pipe...
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Post by trailboss on Oct 21, 2020 21:32:32 GMT -5
I wonder if as a smoking table it could have been for rolling your own? The dish sitting on top would be a handy place to roll over and dump the spillage back down the opening. As for the reservoir, I have nothing to suggest. What did you decide to do with your "Smoking Table"? I donāt have a smoking table. I have a circular pipe rack with an ashtray in the middle, but that is a close as it gets. |
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Post by bonanzadriver on Oct 21, 2020 22:57:18 GMT -5
I have three smoking tables.    They are admittedly "re-purposed", but you can't argue with the price... $115 for the set... Bought em on craigslist. |
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Post by daveinlax on Oct 21, 2020 23:05:08 GMT -5
No real clue...but maybe the small reservoir is for a bottle of snuff? Nice table regardless! Is that a 4 pipe rack (sort of)? A fancy Snuff Box is the first thing I thought of.  |
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Post by taiguy66 on Oct 22, 2020 19:52:39 GMT -5
Whereās American Pickers when you need them? Regardless sir youāve got a beautiful table and use it anyway you want. š
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Post by joeman on Oct 23, 2020 9:34:02 GMT -5
Thanks, boys. My nephew really got a bargain for $15. He should drive that smoking table as if he stole it...becasue he did!
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Post by peteguy on Oct 23, 2020 14:35:01 GMT -5
Tell him it was from the estate of Legend Lover!! Oh wait, that might devalue it.  I haven't a clue but I like it. |
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Post by Legend Lover on Oct 23, 2020 15:35:03 GMT -5
Tell him it was from the estate of Legend Lover!! Oh wait, that might devalue it.Ā Ā I haven't a clue but I like it. it would at least double the value! |
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Post by swampgrizzly on Oct 25, 2020 0:58:46 GMT -5
It doesn't appear to be a smoking table to me at all! I suspect the shallow tray was used to hold a small amount of water for the Christening/Baptising of an infant. The little well that is exposed when the deer head is lifted could likely hold a candle or possibly a small amount of Chrism oil/anointing oil if removed from it's original mounted position and placed on the table or other flat horizonal surface. The drawer could have been used to hold small linens to wipe excess water off the infant after it was baptized. The entire stand is of an appropriate height to serve as a baptismal font. Water, candles, and anointing oils are used in many Christening/Baptismal sacramental rites. The shape of the vertical art work at the back of the table is also reasonably close to the shape of a cross. I wish I were able to see the details of the horizontal artwork included in that vertical art piece since it could possibly be in the shape of a crown of thorns and/also forming the cross member of a symbolic cross?? If possible please share a close up photo of the details of the horizontal portion of that vertical art piece.
The Stag head presents another interesting angle to this piece. Native American tribes honored deer in a number of ways including associating them with fertility. Some ancient Egyptian's represented some of their gods wearing a pair of horns on their head. Stag symbolism appear in a number of myths, legends, and folklore.
This could be a reasonably valuable antique used somehow in spiritual/religious/initiation ceremonies if it isn't an outright baptismal font. I am not a Mason, nor do I know any Masons or members of the fraternal order of Elks. Could this be a ceremonial furniture piece used in an Elk Lodge??
I certainly would love to learn of its history!
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