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Post by oldcajun123 on Nov 25, 2020 11:22:28 GMT -5
Eliteist Critics panned it, đź’©on them. Glenn Close needs an Oscar for this. Raw, true depiction of poor hill people. Critics live in rareified air, they never picked cotton, waited in line for commodities like my Mother did, worked in a canning job like my Mother did. They watched the movie from Plush seats , probably drinking champagne F^_KCRITICS.  |
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Post by taiguy66 on Nov 25, 2020 11:35:16 GMT -5
Never saw it so can’t express an opinion. Having said that it doesn’t surprise me with anything “Hollywood “ as they like to bend facts etc to sell movies.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 25, 2020 12:07:28 GMT -5
The book was written by a guy with the same name as my late brother, so I looked at the book reviews. In the book he blames the continuing cycles of poverty in Appalachia as a result of laziness, addiction and welfare abuse. It was a popular book in the big cities, but not so popular in the rural areas. The people in Appalachia especially disagree with the book. I guess when you look at people going through hard times on the big screen you can come away with different reactions. I may give it a look. Not sure. I HATE Tennessee Williams plays because of the way they portray life in the south. My experience in the rural South are of the best, kindest people in the world.
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Post by orley on Nov 25, 2020 15:53:43 GMT -5
Brad, I saw a preview of the film and look forward to seeing it. An interview with Amy Adams talked about some of the criticisms, but she said that they talked to the families that the book and film was based on before shooting began, and was very aware of how it may come off. The family said they didn't like that particularly difficult time in their lives, but didn't oppose of their filming of it. Like most movies, ones opinion of them are truly subjective. I never listen to the critics, they really do like the sound of their own voices.  |
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Post by lizardonarock on Nov 25, 2020 16:07:04 GMT -5
You lost me at Glen Close but I suppose one day I will see it.
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Post by bigwoolie on Nov 25, 2020 17:16:43 GMT -5
I haven't seen it. I doubt if I will. I lived in Hazard, Kentucky as a kid. 9 generations of my family are from Kentucky. If Hellwood ever depicts southerners or hill people, its tripe, cliches and stereotypes. Or, as this movies appears to be (and I could be wrong) they decide to get realistic only when digging out the worst.
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Post by Ronv69 on Nov 25, 2020 19:40:41 GMT -5
I haven't seen it. I doubt if I will. I lived in Hazard, Kentucky as a kid. 9 generations of my family are from Kentucky. If Hellwood ever depicts southerners or hill people, its tripe, cliches and stereotypes. Or, as this movies appears to be (and I could be wrong) they decide to get realistic only when digging out the worst. Yup! |
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Post by Gypo on Nov 26, 2020 14:08:44 GMT -5
Have not seen the movie. Didn't grow up as poor as some but was a long way from the silver spoon always worked. In the house I grew up in we had to buy our own cloths and shoes after the 6th grade and highschool we paid our own dentil bills. I used to trade a friend of mine who owned 1/3 of local western store a cord of Madrone for 7 pairs of wranglers. Got three when school started two more at Christmas and the last two at Easter thats the way it went from 7th through 12th grade. But southern poor we were not always could hussle work or sell firewood
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Post by Darin on Nov 26, 2020 14:10:51 GMT -5
A film about the cohesiveness of family in the face of extreme adversity with some realistic touches on drug abuse and emotional trauma. Could be anywhere in the country right now and see the same scenarios. Good acting by Glenn as you hardly know it's her.
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Post by jpberg on Nov 28, 2020 16:22:03 GMT -5
The New York Times likes it, but so does oldcodger. I guess I’ll have to watch it.
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Post by toshtego on Nov 28, 2020 18:11:24 GMT -5
Not sure I want to live through a movie about daily life here in the Land of Enchantment.... Rural poor is much the same all over the USA. Worse in some spots, maybe a little easier in others. There is always Indian land to look down upon in shame.
I like Glenn Close and Ron Howard is a fine story teller/Director.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2020 0:16:35 GMT -5
We watched it a few nights back. I agree with the Glen Close assessment. I will admit, a lot of what I saw reminded me of visiting my Father's family during the '60s. But I thought it was fantastic.
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Post by sparks on Nov 30, 2020 13:48:21 GMT -5
Got around to watching this last night.
While I can appreciate that maybe people living in that environment might not like the author's assessment of the continuing cycles of poverty, he did live it, so I'm not going to criticize his point of view as he certainly has more experience than I do. I don't care who you are or where you are from, when someone -- especially one of your own -- criticizes your lifestyle or environment, you are likely going to be defensive about it. It's hard to be objective when you are in the middle of it all.
I thought it was very well done though. Gritty and harsh at times, but also hopeful... that people can overcome their situations if they get the opportunity.
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Post by briarpipenyc on Dec 2, 2020 7:40:21 GMT -5
I haven't seen it. I doubt if I will. I lived in Hazard, Kentucky as a kid. 9 generations of my family are from Kentucky. If Hellwood ever depicts southerners or hill people, its tripe, cliches and stereotypes. Or, as this movies appears to be (and I could be wrong) they decide to get realistic only when digging out the worst. I'm Italian, and live in New York City. Is there anyone who doesn't believe that I am not part of the Mafia? *********************************************************************************** BTW, I've never seen any Mafioso smoking a pipe...or clip a guy who's smoking a pipe.  My favorite movie quote: after he finishes taking a piss in the weeds, and seeing that Paulie got his head ventilated..... "Leave the gun, take the Cannolis"...Fat Clemenza/Godfather. |
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Post by Pistol Pete 1911 on Dec 2, 2020 17:46:34 GMT -5
I just saw this movie and I absolutely loved it. You would never even know it was Glenn Close unless somebody told you or you saw her name in the credits, she did a phenomenal job.
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My favorite movie quote: after he finishes taking a piss in the weeds, and seeing that Paulie got his head ventilated..... "Leave the gun, take the Cannolis"...Fat Clemenza/Godfather.
