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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 8, 2021 12:08:14 GMT -5
James Garand Birthday was Jan 1, inventor of the M1, who Patton said was the greatest invention, he never received a penny for this, a bill in Congress to give him 100,00$, failed to pass.  |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 8, 2021 12:12:45 GMT -5
Picture of Garand 
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 8, 2021 13:30:10 GMT -5
Patton said it was the greatest battle rifle of all time.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 8, 2021 14:02:41 GMT -5
Outstanding rifle by an outstanding patriot.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 8, 2021 16:27:21 GMT -5
One fine rifle. I loved all that I had the opportunity to shoot. Shot well with them, too.
So much nicer than the plastic zip guns they use nowadays.
I see how a combat soldier would develop confidence in his weapon with the M1. Accurate, solid as a brick, hits hard, completely reliable, excellent in hand to hand combat.
I never had any confidence in the M16. Hated them.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 8, 2021 16:46:32 GMT -5
The Garand was produced for a nation of riflemen. The M-16 for a nation of TV-watchers.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 8, 2021 17:35:53 GMT -5
The Garand was produced for a nation of riflemen. The M-16 for a nation of TV-watchers.  Sad but true. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 8, 2021 18:12:49 GMT -5
John Garand was not even an American, but he was still a national treasure. It sucks he never got a nickle...it doesnt surprise me that the scum class in DC would do nothing to compensate him. My Springfield: All parts were correct when it came from the CMP, I don't think it ever saw service.    My Harrington and Richardson:  Even with my astigmatism causing this right handed person to shoot left handed, that rifle will get the job done, that flier at the bottom was my fault.  |
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Post by Gypo on Jan 8, 2021 18:14:51 GMT -5
I got one in the safe made by International Harvester. Great condition was told by a Korean vet. I.H. was made for the Korean war but never read it anyplace.
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Post by bigwoolie on Jan 8, 2021 18:18:07 GMT -5
“There ain’t much a man can’t fix with $500.00 and a .30-06”.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 8, 2021 18:21:22 GMT -5
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Post by trailboss on Jan 8, 2021 18:32:35 GMT -5
From Ron's link.  Wouldn't it be grand to have a 1951 International truck and hang your 1951 Garand in it? Travelling in Garand style! |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 8, 2021 18:35:36 GMT -5
The Germans were too late with the Gewehr 43 and it never matched up to the Garand.
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 8, 2021 18:41:56 GMT -5
From Ron's link. Wouldn't it be grand to have a 1951 International truck and hang your 1951 Garand in it? Travelling in Garand style! I learned to drive on a ‘47 Dodge pickup. Wish I had it now.  |
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Post by Gypo on Jan 8, 2021 18:57:29 GMT -5
I am saving to build a 1940's power wagon!
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 8, 2021 23:50:07 GMT -5
From Ron's link. Wouldn't it be grand to have a 1951 International truck and hang your 1951 Garand in it? Travelling in Garand style! I would definitely take it! |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 9, 2021 10:40:47 GMT -5
John Garand was not even an American, but he was still a national treasure. It sucks he never got a nickle...it doesnt surprise me that the scum class in DC would do nothing to compensate him. My Springfield: All parts were correct when it came from the CMP, I don't think it ever saw service. My Harrington and Richardson: Even with my astigmatism causing this right handed person to shoot left handed, that rifle will get the job done, that flier at the bottom was my fault. That "Scum" must include Dwight David Eisenhower who was President of the United States for most of the 1950s. If anyone in D.C. appreciated the work of John Garand it would be him. I guess back then, career government employees were not singled out for praise? The NRA certainly could have done something for Garand. Did they? How about all the Veteran's organizations? |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 9, 2021 10:46:29 GMT -5
The Germans were too late with the Gewehr 43 and it never matched up to the Garand. Yeah?? Well. Frankie sure liked it!!!!  |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 9, 2021 10:55:00 GMT -5
The Germans were too late with the Gewehr 43 and it never matched up to the Garand. Yeah?? Well. Frankie sure liked it!!!! ? |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 9, 2021 11:12:19 GMT -5
“ That "Scum" must include Dwight David Eisenhower ” If it as Brad said, congress failed to compensate John Garand, he didn’t say Eisenhower vetoed it. Am I missing something? “ For his unstinting work at the Springfield Armory, Garand was awarded the Medal for Meritorious Service in 1941 and the Medal for Merit in 1944. He received no royalties or any other monetary compensation beyond his modest civil service salary, and he freely assigned all of his patents to the government. A bill was introduced in Congress to award him $100,000 in appreciation of his efforts, but it failed to pass.” warfarehistorynetwork.com/2016/07/13/garands-wonder-weapon/ |
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Post by oldcajun123 on Jan 9, 2021 11:20:57 GMT -5
Charlie he was awarded American citizenship in the 20s, Congress as usual then, during war years and now is a do nothing body, They vetoed a bill that would bring Jewish children to Amrtica as Britain did just before WWII, BIG SHAME ON THEM. !
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 9, 2021 12:06:43 GMT -5
Yeah?? Well. Frankie sure liked it!!!! ? Merci. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 9, 2021 12:24:55 GMT -5
I am saving to build a 1940's power wagon! You might want to check out the early 1950s models. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 9, 2021 12:26:15 GMT -5
From the movie "Suddenly", 1954 or so. Fun film. With Sterling Hayden. |
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Post by toshtego on Jan 9, 2021 12:27:30 GMT -5
“ That "Scum" must include Dwight David Eisenhower ” If it as Brad said, congress failed to compensate John Garand, he didn’t say Eisenhower vetoed it. Am I missing something? “ For his unstinting work at the Springfield Armory, Garand was awarded the Medal for Meritorious Service in 1941 and the Medal for Merit in 1944. He received no royalties or any other monetary compensation beyond his modest civil service salary, and he freely assigned all of his patents to the government. A bill was introduced in Congress to award him $100,000 in appreciation of his efforts, but it failed to pass.” warfarehistorynetwork.com/2016/07/13/garands-wonder-weapon/Who awards medals and honors? |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 9, 2021 13:25:33 GMT -5
Nothing was said about medals and awards, we were talking financial compensation.
He didn’t work for a Veterans organization, or for the NRA.
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Post by toshtego on Jan 9, 2021 19:14:26 GMT -5
Nothing was said about medals and awards, we were talking financial compensation. He didn’t work for a Veterans organization, or for the NRA. He was a government employee. As far as I know, the only way a civil servant gains a special reward is if the Executive Branch confers it on them. That means an award. The President, the NRA, the VFW or UFW could have pressed their representatives to award Garand. It takes action. |
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Post by Plainsman on Jan 9, 2021 20:00:59 GMT -5
“ That "Scum" must include Dwight David Eisenhower ” If it as Brad said, congress failed to compensate John Garand, he didn’t say Eisenhower vetoed it. Am I missing something? “ For his unstinting work at the Springfield Armory, Garand was awarded the Medal for Meritorious Service in 1941 and the Medal for Merit in 1944. He received no royalties or any other monetary compensation beyond his modest civil service salary, and he freely assigned all of his patents to the government. A bill was introduced in Congress to award him $100,000 in appreciation of his efforts, but it failed to pass.” warfarehistorynetwork.com/2016/07/13/garands-wonder-weapon/Who awards medals and honors? The winners. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 9, 2021 20:35:26 GMT -5
Nothing was said about medals and awards, we were talking financial compensation. He didn’t work for a Veterans organization, or for the NRA. He was a government employee. As far as I know, the only way a civil servant gains a special reward is if the Executive Branch confers it on them. That means an award. The President, the NRA, the VFW or UFW could have pressed their representatives to award Garand. It takes action. Not to belabor the point, But: And congress failed, meaning that it could not go forward to the president to sign. If you can cite where congress was out of their authority to do so and that it was the purview of the executive branch, I am all ears. I don't mean to be argumentative, but I do not get it. |
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