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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 15, 2021 14:31:39 GMT -5
Gov. DeSantis has a new idea for raising $$ for the State:
...among them, collecting state sales already owed tax on internet purchases.
That would increase revenues by at least $700 million a year.
“I don’t believe that it’s a tax increase. I think it’s a tax collection issue, not a tax increase issue. We’re not changing the tax at all,” said the Senate Appropriations Chair Kelli Stargel.
Better get your purchases in before they implement this new law.
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Post by trailboss on Jan 15, 2021 19:00:26 GMT -5
Florida has no state income tax, that doesn’t mean that they won’t find another way to chisel the money from you.
Still better than Socialist strongholds though.
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Post by Gandalf on Jan 15, 2021 19:12:24 GMT -5
For several years, Illinois expected it's residents to report online purchases on their tax return (if sales tax wasn't collected) - and pay the sales tax.
Now they've forced most businesses to collect the tax at purchase - and pay it to the state.
I don't understand it myself. If the product and the business are outside the state, then the purchase is outside the state. They have no right to collect a sales tax.
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 15, 2021 19:43:57 GMT -5
br]... I don't understand it myself. If the product and the business are outside the state, then the purchase is outside the state. They have no right to collect a sales tax. The Gub'mint sees it differently. They have every right they can get away with. State governments need a certain amount of tax income. In Texas we don't have income tax, but property taxes are high, as are sales taxes. I'm already saving a ton of money by buying online. I can't begrudge the state it's 6.25%. |
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Post by CrustyCat on Jan 16, 2021 1:18:51 GMT -5
Same here in Nevada. No income tax, but taxed on everything else. Now we're trying to save the children from vaping, pipe tobacco, cigars, etc. so not really sure what my future prospects are for buying tobacco online, but I've been successful so far, just not with vaping. There is a cigar place in Vegas that won't ship to Nevada either because of the tax issue. It's still confusing to me. I still think it's funny that they charge a higher surcharge tax on tobacco that dope. 30% vs 10%. Should be the other way around.
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Post by taiguy66 on Jan 16, 2021 8:42:34 GMT -5
Kevin, I’ve been wondering about that for some time. Makes no sense but could be worse. Try living in WA where it’s legal to purchase cigars on line but not pipe tobacco. Anyway... we’ve already discussed this on a different thread so I digress.
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Post by Legend Lover on Jan 16, 2021 11:16:14 GMT -5
Hope this doesn't hijack the thread... I find it strange that different states have different rules.
Are you guys happy that each state is different or would you rather have one tax across the whole country?
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 16, 2021 11:18:57 GMT -5
Hope this doesn't hijack the thread... I find it strange that different states have different rules. Are you guys happy that each state is different or would you rather have one tax across the whole country? I don't know about the other guys, but I think every state should follow Texas rules. 😜🤠 |
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Post by simnettpratt on Jan 16, 2021 11:42:28 GMT -5
The idea for individual states having power is a check on unbridled authority of the Feds. There's a lot of land and people for too much power to be concentrated in Washington.
Whether you're happy with your state's tax depends on which state you're in.
Lower is better.
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 16, 2021 12:49:51 GMT -5
Hope this doesn't hijack the thread... I find it strange that different states have different rules. Are you guys happy that each state is different or would you rather have one tax across the whole country? I have no problem with States handling as they see fit. Feds do not constitutionally have right to collect sales or property or use taxes. So States collect sales tax, counties collect property tax, local jurisdictions collect use taxes (highway fees). Most online tobacco companies have been charging California sales tax for some time. I think you'll see all the states do that soon enough. They are losing a lot of store based revenue because of covid. I think if you look at there big online retailers (Amazon) they have been charging sales tax for a long time. In California there are so many electric vehicles on the road that the state is seeing a decline in gas tax revenue. So guess what, they are considering charging mileage fees. You pay tax based on miles you spend on the road. Crazy, but they have to pay for the highway system and Highway Patrol somehow. For my part, California has some of the best services in the country. But you have to pay for it. |
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Post by trailboss on Jan 16, 2021 15:41:27 GMT -5
The idea for individual states having power is a check on unbridled authority of the Feds. There's a lot of land and people for too much power to be concentrated in Washington. Whether you're happy with your state's tax depends on which state you're in. Lower is better. Well stated. I have always been confounded by the argument in the past, often by a merchant: “ How come internet sales are not taxed like a store is, this needs to be rectified by charging taxes on their sales” My response is : How come you are saddled unfairly with a tax, you should have the same arrangement. |
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Post by zambini on Jan 17, 2021 12:42:44 GMT -5
For several years, Illinois expected it's residents to report online purchases on their tax return (if sales tax wasn't collected) - and pay the sales tax. Now they've forced most businesses to collect the tax at purchase - and pay it to the state. I don't understand it myself. If the product and the business are outside the state, then the purchase is outside the state. They have no right to collect a sales tax. There was a thread on this a couple of years ago. The short answer is that the Supreme Court ruled on a case brought by South Dakota giving states the power to tax out of state online sales at point of delivery i.e. for tax purposes a purchase is only concluded when your item is delivered. It kind of makes you want to go back to the days of cash on delivery. |
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Post by calabash on Jan 17, 2021 18:16:46 GMT -5
Same here in Nevada. No income tax, but taxed on everything else. Now we're trying to save the children from vaping, pipe tobacco, cigars, etc. so not really sure what my future prospects are for buying tobacco online, but I've been successful so far, just not with vaping. There is a cigar place in Vegas that won't ship to Nevada either because of the tax issue. It's still confusing to me. I still think it's funny that they charge a higher surcharge tax on tobacco that dope. 30% vs 10%. Should be the other way around. Reminds me of my visit to Iwan Ries in Chicago. If I bought anything there, they had to charge 23% tax. If I had it shipped to my home... |
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Post by briarbuck on Jan 18, 2021 12:04:43 GMT -5
Hope this doesn't hijack the thread... I find it strange that different states have different rules. Are you guys happy that each state is different or would you rather have one tax across the whole country? The US is a republic of States. It's what makes the US unique. Also give people the opportunity to move if they don't like what's going on. |
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