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Post by Plainsman on Jan 28, 2021 10:40:47 GMT -5
One of the first pipes I bought this fall when I returned to the fold was a Peterson Killarney Dublin. It’s a very hot-smoking pipe. No matter how you puff it it quickly becomes almost too hot to comfortably hold. Total dud that now sits on the bench and never gets sent out to play. Alas. I guess you can’t win ‘em all.
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Post by puffy on Jan 28, 2021 12:18:11 GMT -5
One of the first pipes I bought this fall when I returned to the fold was a Peterson Killarney Dublin. It’s a very hot-smoking pipe. No matter how you puff it it quickly becomes almost too hot to comfortably hold. Total dud that now sits on the bench and never gets sent out to play. Alas. I guess you can’t win ‘em all. Many years ago I had an Upshall like that. .A friend got me in touch with a factory rep..I sent it back to the factory in England..They sent me a replacement..It smokes just fine.
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Post by sperrytops on Jan 28, 2021 14:14:09 GMT -5
Sorry to hear that. You might check with one of the pipe repair shops and see if there is a solution.
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Post by pepesdad1 on Jan 28, 2021 14:32:15 GMT -5
One of the first pipes I bought this fall when I returned to the fold was a Peterson Killarney Dublin. It’s a very hot-smoking pipe. No matter how you puff it it quickly becomes almost too hot to comfortably hold. Total dud that now sits on the bench and never gets sent out to play. Alas. I guess you can’t win ‘em all. Yeah, I'm familiar with the problem!!
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Post by trailboss on Jan 28, 2021 18:49:52 GMT -5
One of the first pipes I bought this fall when I returned to the fold was a Peterson Killarney Dublin. It’s a very hot-smoking pipe. No matter how you puff it it quickly becomes almost too hot to comfortably hold. Total dud that now sits on the bench and never gets sent out to play. Alas. I guess you can’t win ‘em all. Off to ebay!
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Post by Ronv69 on Jan 28, 2021 21:32:31 GMT -5
I'll bet Peterson will fix replace it.
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Post by puffy on Jan 28, 2021 21:42:08 GMT -5
I'm probably wrong here but..I've heard that the more dense briar is the more heat it holds.
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Post by Cramptholomew on Jan 29, 2021 11:06:32 GMT -5
Depending on how they're drilled, in my experience, Dublins can get hot if they're not drilled with an appropriately tapered chamber bit. You run the risks of creating thin walls at certain points, usually towards the bottom of the bowl, which will radiate heat up through the mid section. Pictures of the pipe and chamber would be helpful to diagnose the reason. In have two dublins that can get hot if not smoked super slowly. A less tapered bit was obviously used to drill them.
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Post by taiguy66 on Jan 30, 2021 18:45:33 GMT -5
Depending on how they're drilled, in my experience, Dublins can get hot if they're not drilled with an appropriately tapered chamber bit. You run the risks of creating thin walls at certain points, usually towards the bottom of the bowl, which will radiate heat up through the mid section. Pictures of the pipe and chamber would be helpful to diagnose the reason. In have two dublins that can get hot if not smoked super slowly. A less tapered bit was obviously used to drill them. Thanks for the education Jason. I didn’t know that!
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 1, 2021 12:38:23 GMT -5
Just a note: Peterson of Dublin responded to my query quickly. I’m to return it to the factory where they will evaluate/replace the pipe. Thanks for the tips, gentlemen.
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Post by puffy on Feb 1, 2021 12:53:56 GMT -5
Good News
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 1, 2021 14:53:54 GMT -5
That's why I buy Peterson pipes! (besides liking the way they look and smoke). My new one from England is out for delivery! 😁 8 days from Jolly Old ain't bad!
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Post by urbino on Feb 1, 2021 18:28:21 GMT -5
Just a note: Peterson of Dublin responded to my query quickly. I’m to return it to the factory where they will evaluate/replace the pipe. Thanks for the tips, gentlemen. Excellent. Gotta love it when a company stands behind their product.
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Post by Legend Lover on Feb 2, 2021 9:13:30 GMT -5
Just a note: Peterson of Dublin responded to my query quickly. I’m to return it to the factory where they will evaluate/replace the pipe. Thanks for the tips, gentlemen. I'm glad they are helping you out. I hope they send you a new replacement that works well for you.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 2, 2021 9:39:38 GMT -5
I’m really fond of, and loyal to, companies that treat their customers well. Shooters and handloaders know that Lee and Lyman are not so good at that. RCBS is about the best of the bunch, IMO. Many times I have contacted them to buy parts for their gear or to replace something I broke. Then they send it/them to me without charge. Great outfit. Year or so back I bought a Ruger in 45 Colt/45 Auto. I was so happy to have found this gun after a long search that I just had my dealer wrap it up and took it home. On closer inspection it was awful— easily the worst gun I had ever seen to have supposedly “passed” QC. Wrote to the prez with pictures. They immediately sent me a return label and in less than a week the gun was back and was... magnificent. They had given it their fine-tuning make-over, including their custom blue and fancy grips. Now THAT’S CS— even though the gun should have never left the factory in the first place. Kinda long-winded, I know, but I just wanted to praise companies that do what ALL companies should and so few actually do. If Peterson comes through on this they will have made a friend for life.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 2, 2021 12:08:13 GMT -5
I've had good customer service from Lee, but I just needed parts. The other companies are so much more expensive that I guess you are paying in advance for customer service that you may never need.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 2, 2021 13:00:51 GMT -5
I've had good customer service from Lee, but I just needed parts. The other companies are so much more expensive that I guess you are paying in advance for customer service that you may never need. ”Expensive” is relative. RCBS, Hornady, Lyman, Redding, Forster, Dillon— they are all in pretty much the same ballpark. Might be better to say that Lee is “cheap.” I use Lee stuff. Much of it is just fine. Some of it is... well, the work of an iconoclastic, somewhat irascible, maverick engineer. Not really a bad thing either.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 2, 2021 14:25:38 GMT -5
I've had good customer service from Lee, but I just needed parts. The other companies are so much more expensive that I guess you are paying in advance for customer service that you may never need. ”Expensive” is relative. RCBS, Hornady, Lyman, Redding, Forster, Dillon— they are all in pretty much the same ballpark. Might be better to say that Lee is “cheap.” I use Lee stuff. Much of it is just fine. Some of it is... well, the work of an iconoclastic, somewhat irascible, maverick engineer. Not really a bad thing either. I've had no problem with Lee equipment or dies, but I admit that I'm not the most demanding user. Still, besides what I bought and what I inherited, I wwon't ever need any more. I have a Rockchucker press if I feel the need to put the squeeze on something.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 2, 2021 14:48:31 GMT -5
Three of Lee’s all-stars are... the Universal Expanding Die (for belling any cartridge); the Universal Decapping Die (for punching out the primers of any cartridge); the series of Factory Crimp Dies. I also have one of their hand presses that I use for occasional de-capping chores on a few cases. Works very well. I am less impressed with their bench presses, but know lots of folks that swear by them, rather than at them. Most of my loading is done on two Dillons— one set up for small primers and the other for large.
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Post by instymp on Feb 2, 2021 18:45:21 GMT -5
That's why I buy Peterson pipes! (besides liking the way they look and smoke). My new one from England is out for delivery! 😁 8 days from Jolly Old ain't bad! Can I ask which Pete you ordered?
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Post by trailboss on Feb 2, 2021 18:56:52 GMT -5
Three of Lee’s all-stars are... the Universal Expanding Die (for belling any cartridge); the Universal Decapping Die (for punching out the primers of any cartridge); the series of Factory Crimp Dies. I also have one of their hand presses that I use for occasional de-capping chores on a few cases. Works very well. I am less impressed with their bench presses, but know lots of folks that swear by them, rather than at them. Most of my loading is done on two Dillons— one set up for small primers and the other for large. When I hauled freight, I regularly went into Dillon's in Scottsdale, great people and customer service is legendary. I delivered pallets upon pallets from Winchester Ammo in USGI cans for testing courtesy of the military.A friend of mine is a good friend if Mike Dillon, he was able to ride in Mike's Helo and spark some rounds from the minigun. He is a trust fund kid with deep pockets...I might be able to afford a 30 second burst.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 2, 2021 19:28:43 GMT -5
Mike died in 2016.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 2, 2021 19:36:37 GMT -5
Yes he did...my friend took the helo ride in probably 2007, but knew him long before that.
Is/was a friend.
Guns/ Pipes....I cannot count the times where people on forums or on Guntalk radio complained about a handgun. Tom Gresham the host of Guntalk knows everyone who is anyone in the community. He asks. "Did you contact the manufacturer?" Typically the answer is "no", and Tom gives the speech about the manufacturers are out to please the customer. Then a few weeks later the caller calls back in talking about the great customer service and the issues have been resolved, not un common with a few new magazines tossed in for free.
Guilty myself....I went online and complained about Sherri's berries, someone told me to call them, and they sent my wife a double amount in better shape and a dozen roses from their sister company, 1-800 flowers.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 2, 2021 19:47:46 GMT -5
Shooting one of those things would be a “blast.” Literally! (As our prez likes to say.) At gov’t per/cartridge rates your 30-seconds would cost almost $1000. At civilian commercial rates, about $3600. Ouch! But what fun.
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Post by trailboss on Feb 2, 2021 19:58:06 GMT -5
Yeah, I can afford it, but it would be a foolish move...Back to diminishing returns. And maintaining domestic tranquility on the home front.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 2, 2021 19:59:12 GMT -5
Rather than complain I prefer to take some kind of directed action. If you don’t already know it, you can usually get corporate info off the web. CEO, address, phone, etc. Go right to the top. Be polite, but graciously firm. Don’t box them in a corner, rather give them an easy out to make you happy. Believe me, it works. Well, mostly. I once sent pix of what a ruptured cartridge case did to the breech-face of a Kimber conversion 22 unit in one of their 45s. Made no demands, just asked what was up with that. They deep-sixed me and never replied. Not even to registered letters. It can happen. Sure tells you a lot about the company.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 2, 2021 19:59:15 GMT -5
That's why I buy Peterson pipes! (besides liking the way they look and smoke). My new one from England is out for delivery! 😁 8 days from Jolly Old ain't bad! Can I ask which Pete you ordered? Deluxe System 20FB.
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Post by Ronv69 on Feb 2, 2021 20:02:25 GMT -5
Shooting one of those things would be a “blast.” Literally! (As our prez likes to say.) At gov’t per/cartridge rates your 30-seconds would cost almost $1000. At civilian commercial rates, about $3600. Ouch! But what fun. Who's prez?
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Post by trailboss on Feb 2, 2021 20:05:15 GMT -5
I agree, that is the right approach. "I will never buy your product again" and going scorched earth is a bad way to roll. Of course after it all plays out, and a response like Kimber's all bets are off. Some people have had great experiences with their Kimber's, but I have seen enough examples where others have had unresolved issues that have kept me away.
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Post by Plainsman on Feb 2, 2021 20:11:51 GMT -5
I agree, that is the right approach. "I will never buy your product again" and going scorched earth is a bad way to roll. Of course after it all plays out, and a response like Kimber's all bets are off. Some people have had great experiences with their Kimber's, but I have seen enough examples where others have had unresolved issues that have kept me away. Quite a few years ago I had a problem with the sights on an S&W M-642. Sent it back and it came back to me the same way it went in. Wrote a letter to the CEO. Damn if he didn’t call me! Asked me to send the gun directly to him and apologized for the snafu. That has NEVER happened since. The letter to the CEO will get a response from an “assistant” but nothing ever from him. But who cares if all you want is results directed toward your problem?
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